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Carl Mitchell45 Carl Mitchell45 Member
43 messages
joined Nov 2014
#821 ·
Gary Green32 said:Just one question, and I really don't want this to sound like I'm trying to start something.

What’s the consensus on when BBB will get back to their glory days? Will they ever be that powerhouse again? I have no clue what the vibe is like in Chicago lately... does anyone even care about the team or BBB anymore? Is there even that local neighborhood scene left, that kind of tight-knit circle where ultras used to emerge from...?

Honestly, nobody would be happier than me to see the Delije take on Athens, though I'm sure they ran into trouble before... hmmm, too much time has passed, unfortunately. But ten years ago? They would've swept the floor with them...

Athens could have gone a totally different way if it wasn't for those private security goons showing up. Otherwise, the Delije would have crushed it at the airport scouts. The issue is that those guys had backup later—about 60 people waiting in ambush—and simple math won that round. As for BBB, there was plenty of young blood in the mix too... if those guys hadn't been busted a day earlier, regardless of whatever internal drama was happening with BBB, I think they would've absolutely wiped the floor with them.
Raymond Reed10 Raymond Reed10 Active Member
81 messages
joined Nov 2015
#822 ·
Gary Green32 said:Just one question, and I don't want this to sound like a provocation.

What do you guys think about when you wonder if BBB will ever get back to those glory days? Will they ever be as powerful as they used to be? I'm not really sure what the vibe is like in New York right now—if anyone even cares about the team or BBB anymore. Like, does that local neighborhood scene still exist, where you'd have a pool of kids growing into ultras?

Honestly, nobody would be happier than me to see the supporters take over during the trip to Athens, and I'm pretty sure the opposition hit you hard before... hmmm, too much time has passed, unfortunately, but ten years ago, they probably would've swept the floor with them...

If the team ever gets back to being an honest club, then maybe BBB will find those 'old paths of glory' again, but it feels unlikely to happen.
BBB is a group that lost a massive amount of people who just drifted away from the group or stopped showing up to games. I'm not talking about the casual derby fans, but the core members who actually made the group what it was. If someone from BBB started listing everyone who left, the list of quality names would probably be huge. I guess that decline started somewhere around that mid-season spectacle and just kept going until now. But I don't see a reason to be pessimistic. BBB is still here and they're fighting. I think they're actually prouder than ever of everything they've accomplished. It’s the path they chose. They could have taken a different route and maybe been stronger than ten years ago, but they didn't.

As for who beat whom and when... honestly, even at the airport in Athens, those 30 wouldn't have stood a chance if everyone who went to Greece had been in the exact same spot during the attack. I wonder if anyone would have even cared back then if even half of the Athens crowd had been at the scene. But they couldn't all be in the same place at once for various reasons.
The same thing happened in places like Chicago, Paris, and Luxembourg—attacks on BBB happened exactly when the group wasn't fully gathered, just like in Athens. If they hadn't been split up during all those away trips, I'm pretty sure they would've wiped out whoever attacked them.
Steven Thompson16 Steven Thompson16 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#823 ·
Carl Mitchell45 said:Athens might have gone down a totally different way if some private security hired by those guys hadn't shown up, because otherwise, I guess those scouts at the airport would've really taken a beating. The real issue is that those guys got backup later—like, sixty people waiting in ambush—so it was basically just a numbers game at that point, and there were quite a few young kids over at BBB too. If they hadn't all folded a day earlier, regardless of whatever drama was happening within BBB, I honestly think they would've wiped the floor with them.

Always with the "if only this happened" or "if only that happened"... if they actually got beaten that badly, how is it that nobody ended up in the hospital except for the BBB crowd? And let's be real, that wasn't an "outpost," it was just a couple of guys sent out to bait you in. So a few BBB guys fell? Big deal. A bunch of lowlifes fell on the highway when they robbed a construction site (and those were serious criminals) or even in the middle of the city. Honestly, mad respect to everyone who showed up despite the ban and especially to those who held the line. This whole topic is just getting played out.
Steven Thompson16 Steven Thompson16 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#824 ·
Raymond Reed10;57055709 said:if a decent version of Dinamo ever actually exists again, then maybe BBB will return to those 'glory days,' though I guess that’s probably never going to happen.
BBB is basically a group that lost a massive chunk of its core—not just the derby crowd, but the actual foundation of the group. If you were part of BBB and started listing everyone who dropped out, you’d probably end up with a pretty long list of high-quality names.
I suppose the bleeding really started somewhere around that mid-January circus we dealt with, and it hasn't stopped since. But honestly, I don't see much point in being all defeatist about it; BBB is still standing and they're still fighting. If anything, I think they’re prouder than ever of everything they've pulled off so far, given the path they chose. They could have taken a different route and maybe ended up stronger than they were ten years ago, I guess.

And as for all this talk about who beat whom and when... even at the airport in Athens, those 30 guys wouldn't have stood a chance if everyone who went to Greece had been in the exact same spot during the brawl.

I’ve got one question... why didn't those people come back when there was that big organized push for BBB to finally reclaim their home section? When they had a better opportunity and way more motivation than just returning to the main stands... I was expecting absolute madness, you know, like some legendary reunion. Just filling the stands with BBB in its old, powerful form. But what actually happened? They barely managed to fill half the section, and they couldn't even hold their own against fifty paid mercenaries. People are leaving the group constantly; look at how many we've lost here, whether it was because of prison time or some leftist bullshit... and that’s always going to happen. In a city like New York, the problem is that there's nobody left to step up and fill those shoes, while in a place like LA or even parts of the South, people live and breathe for their teams so they don't have issues with numbers. And one more thing, in my opinion, even the coach doesn't have an excuse; sure, he's stubborn and totally unreasonable, but any owner can fire someone—we know that from personal experience.

All this "if they did this" or "if that happened" or "maybe the sun was in their eyes instead of ours" stuff... it's all pretty much pointless to comment on again.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#825 ·
Steven Thompson16 said:I've got a question... why didn't those guys show up when they organized that massive BBB comeback in their own section? They should've had way more motivation then than just returning to the main stands. I was expecting total chaos—like a legendary reunion. Just filling the BBB section back to its old, powerhouse glory. But what actually happened? A few people showed up, barely filled half the section, and they still couldn't hold their own against 50 hired goons...

Half the section?

http://postimg.org/image/nm3a3ditf/
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#826 ·
Steven Thompson16 said:if they really got slammed like that, how come nobody ended up in the ER? It was just BBB...

You’re such a bottom-tier internet troll... 😁
cosmicridge6 cosmicridge6 Active Member
113 messages
joined Oct 2012
#827 ·
Jesse Campbell said:You really are some kind of low-life internet troll... 😁

How did that charity drive go the other day? Anything interesting happen?
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#828 ·
BBB finally got themselves a minister! 😉
Megan Moore60 Megan Moore60 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2011
#829 ·
Jesse Campbell said:BBB finally has a minister in their corner! 😉

Wait, what?? How on earth are we supposed to deal with having someone like Vlaho running the show over at the FBI?
Henry Hayes4 Henry Hayes4 Active Member
64 messages
joined Apr 2013
#830 ·
Christian Miller48 said:Who, what?? Are we seriously letting Vlad lead the charge over at the FBI??

What kind of question is that—the Department of the Interior? :-)
Joseph Hall9 Joseph Hall9 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Oct 2013
#831 ·
Tom, what's even your point being on this forum? If you can't be bothered to actually moderate, just hand the reins over to someone else...
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#832 ·
Joseph Hall9 said:Tom, what's even your point for being on this forum? If you don't feel like moderating, just hand the keys over to someone else.

Go ahead, introduce yourself and lay it all out. Tell us exactly what the issue is, where things went sideways, or what specifically got under your skin.
silentjackal59 silentjackal59 Member
19 messages
joined Dec 2013
#833 ·
Jesse Campbell said:The Ultras actually have a minister now! 😉

Oh, give me a break 🤦
George Lewis27 George Lewis27 Newcomer
1 message
joined Mar 2022
#834 ·
Jesse Campbell said:The Ultras finally landed themselves a cabinet position! 😉

🤦
Steven Thompson16 Steven Thompson16 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#835 ·
Jesse Campbell said:Half the north?

http://postimg.org/image/nm3a3ditf/

My bad, I totally missed this image... I guess I just saw people walking in and the whole thing starting to go south before the page even finished loading.
Steven Thompson16 Steven Thompson16 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#836 ·
Jesse Campbell said:You really are some kind of low-rent internet troll, aren't you? 😁

Takes one to know one, I guess. 😁 It’s just real nice of you all to be so stingy with them, isn't it? 🙂)))
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#837 ·
Steven Thompson16 said:takes one to know one 😁 nice of you guys to let them slide 🙂)))

You're clueless, buddy. I actually know what's going on.
wanderingwolf3 wanderingwolf3 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2015
#838 ·
Jesse Campbell said:Half the North?

http://postimg.org/image/nm3a3ditf/

Maybe I'm just getting old or maybe my brain is fried from too many substances, but I honestly don't get where everyone vanished to after the whole situation with Mom's place shutting down and that supposed "great migration back north"... I mean, where did all those people go once they were in places like New York or Chicago or wherever... or is this whole crowd just here for the party, thinking they can just show up for the festivities and then follow the crowd whenever they feel like it? I really don't get it...🤔
Raymond Reed10 Raymond Reed10 Active Member
81 messages
joined Nov 2015
#839 ·
wanderingwolf3 said:Maybe I’m just getting older, or maybe the drugs have fried my brain, but I don't get it. Where did everyone go after all those closures and that whole "big move back north" thing? Like, where are those people from places like Chicago or New York now? Or are they all just party animals? Is it just a big celebration? Did they come here just to have a good time, and then everyone else follows suit? I guess I really don't understand.🤔

Only during the big derby was the stadium actually locked down. Just two days after that match, everyone was already talking about how he’d be released soon, and by the next game, he was already back. I guess people just disappear. They travel all over the States, even though they know they won't get into games run by those corporate types—those guys who were acting all heartbroken because the gates were closed. And then there's Atlanta; that's a whole different story. A game with no away fans, yet the police arrest you the second they spot you.
Megan Moore60 Megan Moore60 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2011
#840 ·
wanderingwolf3 said:Maybe I’m just getting older, or maybe my brain is just fried from too much caffeine, but I honestly can’t wrap my head around where everyone disappeared to. After all that talk about Mom’s place shutting down and that whole "great migration north" craze, I thought we’d see people everywhere. Where did they go? All those folks who were supposedly heading to places like New York or Chicago—are they gone? Or was this entire thing just one big party crowd? It feels like they only showed up because they heard there was a celebration happening, and as soon as the music stopped, they all vanished. Once everyone else left, they followed suit, and now I’m just sitting here wondering what the deal actually was. I truly don't get it.🤔

I personally know a few folks from my neighborhood who attended their very first big professional football game in their twenties, and if the way things are going now, it’ll probably be the last one they ever see. It’s a funny pattern, really; usually, these are the types of people who show up for the spectacle rather than the sport—people you’d see heading to a shopping mall’s grand reopening, hitting up some flashy new nightclub, or even showing up at a Republican Party victory party after an election win. They’re there for the event itself, not necessarily because they're die-hard fans.

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