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I don't know, it's certainly possible.

It might even be designed that way on purpose—the first thing anyone checks when they suspect something is fishy is the Task Manager. 😬 They're evolving.
It’s just like those crypto miners that run while the PC is idling; the second you move the mouse, they settle down.
At this rate, if those steps don't work, the best move might just be to crash the entire OS.

It’s not just some "optical illusion" with WTM. The GPU actually settles down—you can literally hear the fans quiet down once it stabilizes.
I really hope this doesn't mess things up for my 970 once I finally get my hands on it...
I went ahead and wiped out all those scanners from those random sites and ran through every cleaning tool I could find, but my CPU is still pegged at full load. It's just eating up resources constantly.

I really need to run a Windows repair, but my buddy's a total moron and lost my recovery DVD. Now I'm stuck without any way to patch things up.
I’m honestly drawing a blank on how to go about rebuilding or wiping the whole system again.

So, I was digging around online trying to get to the bottom of this mess, and from what I can tell, it looks like someone basically hijacked the driver to run a miner. It’s pretty shady stuff. Honestly, at this point, just swapping out the graphics card might be the easiest way to wipe the slate clean and fix the whole headache.
And this on top of everything else:

I ran into the exact same headache. In my case, I noticed that as soon as I disabled my network adapter, both my CPU and GPU usage finally dropped back down to earth. After some research i found out that the file Rundll32 was the culprit—it was linked to a folder at C:\ProgramData\adob which was just eating up all my resources. I tried disabling it directly in the Task Manager, which actually caused my display driver to crash for a second, but it recovered quickly enough. Once it did, the CPU and GPU loads plummeted right back to normal idle levels. To be safe, I just went ahead and nuked the entire C:\ProgramData\adob folder, and everything has been running smooth ever since.

I've been poking around, but all I can find is that .dll file sitting right inside the System32 folder. Honestly? I'm too terrified to even touch anything in there.

Another thing you could try is just nuking uTorrent from your system entirely. I’ve heard a few people mention that it can come bundled with a hidden Bitcoin miner, and honestly, a ton of folks ended up downloading it thinking it was just a standard torrent client without realizing what was actually tucked inside.
So, I was digging around on my own machine the other day and realized I had some junk running that I definitely didn't authorize. If you're dealing with that uTorrent EpicScale Bitcoin miner on your Windows PC, it can be a real headache because it kind of sneaks its way into your system resources. After some research i found out that the file Rundll32 might be involved in how these things execute, so keep an eye on that. Honestly, it’s one of those things where you think you've cleaned everything up, and then your fan starts spinning like crazy again. Here’s the best way to handle it: First, check your installed programs. It sounds obvious, but sometimes these things hide under a slightly different name. If you see anything related to EpicScale or suspicious Bitcoin mining software, yank it out immediately through the Control Panel. Next, you really want to run a deep scan. I personally swear by Malwarebytes for this kind of stuff. It’s much more reliable than the basic built-in tools when you're hunting for specific miners that try to piggyback on legitimate software like uTorrent. If it's still hanging around, pull up your Task Manager. Look for any processes that are eating up your CPU cycles for no reason. If you see something suspicious, right-click and hit "End Task," but don't be surprised if it pops right back up—that's how they stay alive. Just take it step by step. It’s annoying, sure, but you'll get your speed back once you clear out the clutter.
Funny enough, I’m running that exact same version, 3.4.2.
I just need to double-check which version of uTorrent is actually safe to use these days.

I’m sticking with uTorrent 2.2.1—it works perfectly fine for me, provided you go into the settings and kill off all those automatic update prompts. Hopefully, that helps.

Drew Sanchez82 said:I just need to double-check which version of uTorrent was the last reliable one.

P.S.: Happy Easter, everyone!

Drew Sanchez82 said:I just need to figure out which version of uTorrent is actually safe to use.

qBittorrent 😁

Jeremy Fowler4 said:I personally stick with uTorrent 2.2.1 and it works perfectly fine. I just made sure to go into the settings and kill off any automatic updates or anything that tries to nag me for them. Hope that helps you out.

P.S.: Happy Easter, everyone!

I actually tried downgrading to 2.2.1 by reinstalling over the 3.4.2 version, but man, that miner issue is still hanging around. :/
Honestly, I'm at my wit's end trying to scrub this junk out of my system. I'm genuinely worried it's gonna chew through my next graphics card once I finally pick one up.

Honestly, just take a full day off—grab a new graphics card, wipe the hard drive, and call it a day. You aren't exactly reinstalling Windows every single morning, right? At least, that's how I see it—it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

Larry Ortiz5 said:Just take a full day off, swap in a new GPU, wipe the drive, and call it a day. You aren't reinstalling Windows every single morning, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal (at least not for me).

That’s exactly my point. Just do a clean install of Windows and the problem disappears. ☕

Larry Ortiz5 said:Just take a full day off, pop in a new graphics card, wipe the hard drive, and boom—problem solved. I mean, you aren't exactly reinstalling Windows every single morning, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal (at least not for me)

It wouldn't be an issue if I didn't have a mountain of files on here. My drive is sitting at about 1.4 TB right now...
So there is absolutely no way I'm formatting this thing.

Drew Sanchez82 said:I tried installing version 2.2.1 right over 3.4.2, but i still have this miner issue :/
Honestly, I'm at my wit's end trying to kill this crap. I'm terrified it's gonna fry my new GPU once I finally pick it up.

What exactly is it doing? (My bad if you already mentioned it, I missed it). I had that thing installed along with 3.4.2 too, but I wiped it and the whole mess is gone... though, to be fair, I didn't really run into issues before—either I just stumbled onto the program by accident or Norton flagged it for me, I can't quite remember. 🤔

Drew Sanchez82 said:It’s really not an issue if you don't have a ton of files sitting on there. I've got about 1.4 TB of data on my drive alone...
So, yeah—formatting the whole disk just isn't happening for me.

Honestly, why not just wipe the C drive? Leave the other partitions alone and you should be fine..

analogtiger19 said:So, how exactly is this issue showing up for you? (Sorry if you already mentioned it, I totally missed it). I actually had that same thing installed back when I was on version 3.4.2, but I wiped it and haven't dealt with that software or the glitch since... Honestly, I didn't even have issues before, I just stumbled onto the program or maybe Norton flagged it for me, I can't quite remember. 🤔

Is your PC running smoothly now that you've ditched 3.4.2?
Was it eating up your GPU usage before? That’s the only way I usually run into this kind of stuff.

Larry Ortiz5 said:Just wipe your C drive and leave the other partitions alone..

Even if I "just" format 700GB, I'm still losing a ton of data.
I'll see if picking up a GTX 970 fixes things. There's a pretty good chance my current graphics card is the culprit, especially since I was messing around with overclocking right around the time everything started acting up.

Is it actually possible to put together an even cheaper rig just to get GTA V running? I’m talking strictly on low settings—I don't care if I have to play at a resolution like 640x480, as long as the FPS stays stable.
I'm only looking at the CPU, motherboard, GPU, RAM, and power supply.

You can always put together a rig for low-to-mid settings. What kind of budget are we looking at? Honestly, though, the better question is how your current setup is actually holding up when you're playing.
I don't know much about the budget-friendly components myself, so I can't really give you a solid recommendation, but I'm sure someone in this thread can whip something up for you.

Anthony Hayes82 said:Is it even possible to build an even cheaper rig just to run GTA V on absolute minimum settings? I'd take any stable FPS, even if I have to play at a resolution like 640x480.
I'm only looking at the CPU, motherboard, GPU, RAM, and PSU.

Give me a ballpark figure on what you think this will cost.
My plan is something like this:
A decent quad-core with integrated graphics, 8GB of RAM (dual channel with high frequency—higher is better since an APU pulls from system memory instead of having its own).
1 x ASUS A88XM-E, FM2+, AMD A88X (Bolton D4), DDR3, 2 slots
1 x AMD Kaveri A8-Series X4 7600 Processor (3.8GHz, 4MB, 65W, FM2+) box
2 x DDR3 4GB (1x4GB) Kingston, 1866MHz, CL10, HyperX Fury, HX318C10F
1 x Fortron 400W Power Supply, HEXA Plus 400, 12cm fan

$749

For that kind of cash, you could definitely squeeze out much better performance if you went with 4GB of RAM paired with a decent dedicated graphics card.

Anything cheaper than this isn't worth your money—you won't save much, and your performance will absolutely tank.



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plus there's a potential 3% discount click

It might be smarter to wait a few days until more benchmarks drop, but for the price, those two options above are the way to go.

Here is how it runs on an older junker; in both cases mentioned above, you're getting a significantly stronger CPU and GPU.



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Regarding the power supply, from $17 to $33 you have plenty of options like EVGA, Corsair, or even Be Quiet!.

I wouldn't bother going above $1167 right now. I can't really drop a ton of cash at the moment, but I need something functional just to get this game running. If Elvis Presley doesn't drop a patch soon, I'll have to scramble within the month to find a budget rig that actually works, like I mentioned before.

My current setup is a laptop with dual graphics, and it’s pretty obvious Elvis Presley messed up the optimization for setups like mine. They clearly didn't account for this kind of configuration, which is why so many of us are stuck in this loop where the game refuses to launch unless we force it to run on the weak integrated graphics from the CPU. Honestly, if the game actually worked on this laptop with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, I’m sure I could handle playing on low settings without any issues.

You’re definitely in the clear at that price point. If you decide to pull the trigger, just give me a heads-up a day or two before you buy.

More benchmarks are starting to trickle in:

Note: The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 is the only card we tested on "normal" settings (dropping everything to "normal"). At these settings, it sustained an average FPS of 70 -- fairly high. The game doesn't look great, but it is playable.

On high settings (1080p), it averages about 31 fps.link

Totally solid.

Here are a few more resources:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html
http://www.computerbase.de/2015-04/g...m-vergleich/2/
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php...s.html?start=2
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428094

What do you think about grabbing this one instead of that AMD card:

For that kind of cash, you could grab a 2GB model instead Honestly, it's overpriced and just isn't worth it. Back before the dollar spiked, you could find a GTX 1050 with 1GB for even less than $267, while prices for an R9 270—which is a much more powerful GPU—stayed pretty much flat
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If you have 3.5 grand to work with, take one of those two bundles and just add a decent, budget-friendly power supply. You'll need at least this or something better
. http://www.nabava.net/search.php?tp=0&q=lc6460gp3

Or, if you source everything from a local retailer like Micro Center
:
http://www.nabava.net/search.php?tp=0&q=cx430

Plus, staying within that 3.5 grand limit leaves you enough breathing room to upgrade the graphics card. If you want to look at some value options, check out:

Even if you go with the high-end versions of everything mentioned above, you’ll still stay under that 3.5 grand mark
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Timothy Kim60 said:For that kind of cash, you could grab a 2GB model like this insteadhttp://www.bestbuy.com/example-link. Honestly, it feels overpriced—not really worth the hit. Back before the dollar spiked, you could sometimes find a GTX 750 with 1GB for even less than$267, while prices for an R9 270 (which is a much stronger GPU) stayed pretty much the same
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If you've got $350 total, take one of those two pre-built setups and just swap in a decent, budget-friendly power supply. You'll need at least something likethis or better
. http://www.newegg.com/search?q=lc6460gp3

Or, if you decide to buy everything separately from a place like Micro Center
:
http://www.newegg.com/search?q=cx430
https://www.amazon.com/power-supply-hyper-500.html

That way, with that $350 budget, you'll actually have some wiggle room left over to upgrade the graphics card. If you want to stick to something with good value, check out these options:
https://www.amazon.com/amd-ati-gpu-dual-x-oc.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/product_info.php?products_id=14245

Even if you go with the pricier versions of everything mentioned above, you’re still staying under that $350 mark.

So yeah, I'd say that's a pretty solid configuration for me. 🙂