Support thread for Honey

Teddy is a dog who actually got served a court order banning him from barking between 8 PM and 8 AM.

Teddy’s got my full support, and my five dogs are right there with me.
Ava is barking in solidarity for Teddy.👋

It isn’t that Bear was banned; it’s that his owner was. Unfortunately, from a strictly legal standpoint, the situation is airtight. A dog is considered personal property, and an owner is free to enjoy that "property" as long as they aren't infringing on anyone else's rights. In this case, the noise itself was classified as a nuisance—essentially a form of "pollution"—that violated an elderly woman's right to quiet enjoyment of her own home. It would be no different if someone were running loud machinery or power tools during restricted hours; they’d face an injunction to stop at certain times, and that would be the end of it. So, to reiterate: legally speaking, the ruling is clear-cut, even if it feels incredibly questionable from a moral or animal welfare perspective.

It wasn't the owner lying, it was Bear🤷
How do you even stop a dog from barking?
Where's the ethics in that when it comes to the animal?
Learned believes you should be the boss of your own yard, which means letting them roam free and bark all they want.
I honestly think that animal rights group could find plenty to do here.
As far as I can tell, the dog is living in totally unnatural conditions now, stuck in a basement, which isn't how they were raised, and he's clearly suffering.

I totally forgot to mention that I actually managed to get a court order to stop some old lady from complaining about my dog barking.🙏
Honestly, if she hadn't been shut up, she probably wouldn't have slept a wink for the rest of her life.🥳
Someone would’ve been "knocking" on her window all night long.☕
She’d be begging for him to bark right back at her twice as loud.🧐

Sure, but when it comes to animals, the logic is essentially the same as it is for physical property; ownership laws apply just like they do to movable assets, with a few specific exceptions—like the recent criminalization of animal cruelty.

Essentially, a dog isn't a legal entity with its own rights; instead, the owner is the one held accountable. For instance, if your dog runs out into traffic and gets hit, the owner is the one who deals with the fallout, and the driver whose car was damaged could seek compensation for repairs if they weren't at fault. Or take a farmer with a herd of cattle—if those cows break through a fence and damage a neighbor's property, the owner is liable. It’s the same principle here.

There’s nothing controversial about a woman not wanting her sleep interrupted by a barking dog. She exercised her rights, she filed the complaint, and now it’s up to the owner to either keep the dog inside during those hours or face the consequences. Look, I have pets too and I absolutely love them, but let me tell you, it wasn't exactly pleasant when my Neighbor from hell had a dog barking on his patio for hours in the middle of the night. My wall was right against his, but since his bedroom was on the other side of the building, he didn't hear a thing.

As for this supposed "abuse" she allegedly committed—he could have sued her then, and he still can. Personally, if someone were mistreating my pets, I’d file a lawsuit the very second it happened. To me, it seems like the real issue now is simply that the guy has to cough up some cash, which is why there's an uproar. There clearly wasn't much noise made while the alleged abuse was actually happening. At the end of the day, the law serves those who know how to navigate it and actually want to use it, which is exactly what's happening here. Her moral character or whatever is completely irrelevant to the legal reality.

What are you guys even talking about? 🤔 Is there an actual article on this? 🙂 Look, I had no clue what was going on, but apparently, Honey knew. He was having some kind of dream around 4:00 this morning and started howling in his sleep like a wolf 😲 and how am I supposed to stop the nightmares and the bad dreams? Can someone please explain this to me? ☕

Maybe we could just merge this thread with the Neighbor from hell discussion. 👍

Honestly, if it weren't for Ava, I’d probably be out there knocking on old ladies' windows just to stir things up—those seniors basically spend their whole day napping and waiting for any little excitement, even something as trivial as a knock at the door.
I mean, what else are they going to do besides sit there watching to see who's knocking, then immediately run over to tell all the other ladies on the block about it?

Yeah, everyone knows grandmas struggle with insomnia,☕ but hardly anyone realizes they’re catching a solid three-hour nap right after lunch. So, naturally, they can't sleep at night 🙄 and end up driving everyone else crazy instead of just staying in bed counting sheep.🙂

My dog was a Dalmatian—so we're talking a huge breed here—and he ran out under a car. Maybe it was my fault because I wasn't paying enough attention
or maybe it was just one of those things that happens. You can't win.
I took full responsibility for the whole thing. I paid for the damages and spent days basically babysitting him through it.😢
But seriously, people, trying to ban dogs or any kind of animal from being allowed in certain places is just pure insanity.
It’s all happening because some person probably can't sleep anyway, so they decide to make everything everyone else does a problem.☕

Hey, Megan Chase43 🤣
She’d probably just type it out on Bluetooth so nobody would even realize what 🤣

Our Wish for a peaceful life association has been flooded lately with all sorts of noise complaints. We actually dealt with one guy—a truck driver—who was losing it because his neighbor’s dog would bark right under his window every single night. I guess the poor guy was showing up to work totally exhausted. He said he was worried about his own safety on the road, but also felt bad about the lives of everyone else out there. Even if he wasn't driving a rig, though, everyone deserves some peace and quiet in their own home.

Honestly, everything is negotiable. Just move the dog away from the window and you're good.🤷
My neighbor’s rooster—or whatever that singer is—wakes me up every single morning at 5 AM. Should I just sue him?🧐
I’m actually filing a lawsuit against the rooster. And hey, if we're doing that, let's sue the goats too since they won't stop bleating. By February, I'll probably be suing every cat in the neighborhood.☕

Yeah, it makes me wonder what would happen if it was just a stray dog. You know, those strays that wander around and people just feed whenever they feel like it. What would even happen to a dog like that?
Since there’s no specific owner, shelters usually can't take them all in.

Is anyone actually here this? ☕

Rachel Palmer56 said:In that case, everything is negotiable. Just move the dog away from the window and call it a day.🤷
My neighbor’s rooster—or maybe it's a singing bird?—wakes me up every single morning at five. Should I just sue?🧐
Maybe I'll file a lawsuit against the rooster. If we're going down that road, let's sue all those cows that moo too much, too. By February, I might end up suing every cat in the neighborhood.☕

If there isn't a residential building on the property where the dogs are, they can roam free.

I'm not sure which area you live in, but in New York City, there are actually local ordinances that prohibit keeping roosters.

No, in a legal dispute, it isn't the animal being sued, it's the owner. It's just like if a dog bites someone; you don't sue the dog, you sue the person responsible for it.

hiddenmarlin14 said:Does anyone else know this? ☕

I honestly think it's always better to just stop the noise before it even starts.

http://intl.petsafe.net/en-gb/bark-control

http://store.intl.petsafe.net/en-gb/...rol/ultrasonic

And I guess the best way is really just training your dog so they don't bark without a reason.

http://www.cesarsway.com/tips/proble...isance-barking

stormyharbor27 said:The property doesn't even have a house on it, so the dogs just roam free.

I don't know what part of the country you're in, but in New York City, there are local ordinances that ban keeping roosters.

Look, in a lawsuit, you don't sue the animal, you sue the owner. It's basic logic. If a dog bites someone, you don't take the dog to court, you go after the person who owns it.

To me, it’s totally fine for dogs to wander around and bark. I don't care if I hear a singer practicing early in the morning, it doesn't bother me.🤷
It’s also perfectly fair to hold someone accountable if their pet actually bites someone.
But I think it's messed up to try and stop an animal from being an animal.🤷
As a proud dog owner myself, even if I wanted to stop them, I couldn't control it.
A dog isn't going to bark constantly just to be loud; if they are, it means they feel threatened.
So yeah, I see this as an attack on the animal—forcing them to act unnaturally.

stormyharbor27 said:It's always better to stop the noise right at the source.

http://intl.petsafe.net/en-gb/bark-control

http://store.intl.petsafe.net/en-gb/...rol/ultrasonic

And honestly, the best move is just training them not to bark for no reason in the first place.

http://www.cesarsway.com/tips/proble...isance-barking

That all sounds great on paper (though I’m not exactly a huge fan of that "legendary" Cesar Miller ☕ ), my golden retriever doesn't bark constantly, but let's be real—it happens once in a while. Every few months or so, he'll have a bad dream and start barking in his sleep. ☕ Usually, it's just a muffled sound, but tonight he actually went full throttle in his sleep. ☕ What am I supposed to do about that? 🤷 As soon as I heard him, I woke him up, told him to settle down, gave him some pets, and then he drifted right back to sleep. ☕

I see that the esteemed Peace Life Marking association is tackling the whole issue of church bell noise.
Is there any way we can actually train church bells to just... stay quiet?

Personally speaking—and I mean this from the bottom of my heart—if those bells aren't ringing, I don't feel quite right.

Rachel Palmer56 said:To me, it’s totally normal for dogs to bark or even for a singer to practice in the morning—it doesn't bother me at all.🤷
It’s only reasonable to take action if an animal actually bites someone, heaven forbid.
But I just can't wrap my head around banning an animal from making noise.🤷
As a proud dog owner myself, I’d want to help, but honestly, there isn't much I can do about it.
My dog never barks just to be loud; if he does, it’s because he thinks there's a threat nearby.
So, I see this as an attack on the animal—basically forcing them to act unnaturally.

Nobody is actually banning barking. That dog can bark as much as it wants.
The issue is just that between 8 PM and 8 AM, it needs to stay inside because the barking is disturbing the immediate neighbor. It's what they call a noise nuisance.