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Justin Smith Justin Smith Newcomer
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joined Dec 2014
#361 ·
velvetfalcon80 said:Back at Parallel tonight, talking football and the fans again.


Take a look at these two clowns, Cvrk and Borovec, on the news. It’s almost funny how preoccupied they are with "repeat offenders," yet the actual soccer criminals—led by a dictator straight out of Mussolini’s playbook, excuse me, Mamić—seem to enjoy full protection from the very people supposed to be investigating their shady dealings.

Brendon is currently in Bangkok. 😂

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Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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joined May 2022
#362 ·
It’s clear they don't have any answers to the actual questions being asked... so I'm expecting the usual routine this Sunday.
neonraven112 neonraven112 Active Member
151 messages
joined Oct 2013
#363 ·
When they get asked why the stands are empty, they’re gonna blame the hooligans and all that toxic media coverage attacking American symbols.
As for questions about stepping down or who’s actually responsible at the Federation, he'll just pivot to talking about how great the National Team's been doing.
And when the protest downtown comes up? He’ll just trash the incompetent Hajduk management—basically saying he gets why people are pissed if they haven't won a title in ten years—and of course, he'll throw in a dig about how much of a joke that other club is.
Naturally, he’ll spend the rest of the time singing praises about Rijeka and their whole "feel-good" narrative.
hollowsurfer22 hollowsurfer22 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#364 ·
neonraven112 said:When asked why the stadiums are empty, he will likely blame hooligans and the toxic atmosphere created by media outlets attacking American symbols.
Regarding questions about resignations and accountability within the national federation, he will pivot to discussing the national team's recent successes.
As for the protests in downtown Seattle, he will simply point fingers at the incompetent management at the local club, claiming he understands their frustration since they haven't won a championship in ten years, and naturally, he'll mention how equally terrible the situation is in other cities.
Of course, he will praise the success in Rio and spin a beautiful narrative about it.

Furthermore, when confronted with questions regarding player agencies and those shady contracts, his legal battles with Edward, the departures of Tomečak and Kramarić, the situation at Lokomotiva, or even the fact that he keeps his own brother in a coaching position... the list of excuses could go on indefinitely.
Jacob Price23 Jacob Price23 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2022
#365 ·
So, after tearing down all those myths Mamić's been pushing, I put together a single file. It’s a massive collection from news sites and various posts documenting every single legal violation, statute breach, and scandal within GNK—complete with screenshots and direct quotes. If you want it, hit me up in the DMs and I'll send it over so you can forward it to Stanković. Maybe if he gets flooded with enough emails, he'll actually bother to read them. Honestly? I doubt it, but hey, at least we tried. 😍

It isn't anything new that hasn't already leaked online; I just pulled it all together in one place.
Jeremy Thomas4 Jeremy Thomas4 Active Member
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joined Apr 2014
#366 ·
Listen, guys, Stanković actually has an account on this forum and keeps tabs on the political threads. He might even be chiming in from time to time.
Lisa Gray94 Lisa Gray94 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Feb 2010
#367 ·
This is absolutely appalling.
Does anyone actually know who is writing this, where they work, or if they even qualify as a real journalist?
gentleowl82 gentleowl82 Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#368 ·
Edward Mendoza70 said:this is brutal
it's like nobody in journalism actually knows what they're doing anymore,

Jebotr, where on earth did you dig this up? Nice find...
Terry Sullivan56 Terry Sullivan56 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2014
#369 ·
Edward Mendoza70 said:it's just awful
you really have to wonder who's actually pulling the strings or if the reporters even know what they're doing half the time,

It's over at The Morning.
Jacob Price23 Jacob Price23 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2022
#370 ·
Edward Mendoza70 said:absolute nightmare
you just know who's pulling the strings when a reporter


You can find him on Facebook easy enough
slycyclist19 slycyclist19 Member
13 messages
joined May 2014
#371 ·
Robert Cooper60 said:You all are being ridiculous. There is no way Mamić is foolish enough to allow any actual questions to be asked...
It is as if you haven't seen this guy on TV before.
He is just going to show up and spin tales about paid salaries and holiday bonuses.
If Perasović were in the studio with him, then there might be some substance. As it stands, how can this man talk for four hours without anyone posing a single real question?

Why? It isn't up to Mamić. It depends entirely on whether the host has the guts to ask and push back. At least he should know by now that his job is to interview guests. If he cannot handle someone like this, then he is just a weakling and the whole thing is a failure.
boldeagle20 boldeagle20 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#372 ·
slycyclist19 said:Why? It’s not about Mamić. It's about whether this guy actually has the guts to ask the hard questions and dig deep... at least he knows by now, scaring off guests. If he can't handle this, he's just a total amateur and his whole career is a wash.

I bolded the key point for you.
That guy has NEVER known how to actually corner someone on air. And even if Mamić is an idiot, he’s got people standing right next to him who wouldn't let him step foot in that studio if it meant letting this host destroy him.
I’m afraid this show was over before it even started. Stanković could throw one little jab with a question, and then it'll be: "Oh, no, honey, no, no, no. You don't get it. We've got ten championships, honey. Look at the payroll, 150 employees, 17 guys just mowing the grass, honey..."

Instead of dismantling him with follow-up questions, he'll just sit there like a submissive puppy, nodding along to some mythical creature.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I doubt it. 🙂
Daniel Carter9 Daniel Carter9 Member
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joined Jul 2009
#373 ·
slycyclist19 said:Why? It isn't about Mamić; it's about whether this host actually has the guts to ask the hard questions and press for answers. At least he knows enough by now to push back against guests. If he can't handle that, then he's just weak, and his whole credibility goes down the drain.

Is that really such a controversial take? He should have gone after him last time when the Head was rambling on. Asking questions isn't the issue; the issue is the follow-up and the refusal to let it go until an answer is given. Imagine if someone asked sixteen times straight where those files came from and refused to move on until they got an answer—because those aren't just random notes, they are files he shouldn't even have access to.

But refusing to move the show forward until he gets an answer? Ace only dares to do that with Željko Markić. With her, he’ll squeeze for answers like he's trying to choke the life out of her, yet with this guy, he just lets him spout nonsense while pivoting to topics like minorities, gay rights, or Šuker...
Henry Lewis6 Henry Lewis6 Member
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joined Sep 2012
#374 ·
Henry Lewis6 said:It’s actually pretty wild looking back eleven years—just circling back to the death threats against Mamic and that whole "BRAND" persona that was playing the opposition. Basically, Mamic swiped half a million bucks from Pokrovac, then turned around and claimed Pokrovac was threatening his life, while also accusing both Pokrovac and Suker of trying to hijack Real Madrid. Plus, his own agency was nowhere near as strong as Pokrovcevs...🤔

About a year and a half after this article dropped, Pokrovac gets taken out. Suddenly, Mamicv is the only agency left standing. And guess what? Nobody wants to take over Real Madrid anymore...

And even after all that, nine years later, they still "don't know" who killed Pokrovac. Mamic and Suker became best buddies, Dinin wife is still insisting her husband was murdered by some soccer mafia, and the authorities just couldn't care less!

What mafia are we even talking about here? Is it Malaysian? Brazilian? How many soccer mafias do we even have in America?

Oh, and back then, that "brand" was conveniently unavailable to the media because he was traveling abroad! 🤣


Here's more context regarding that 2005 link above. The author concludes someone owed Pokrovac at least half a million dollars. I mean, look how much ZM pocketed during the Olina transfer !!??🙄

Also, the piece mentions Pokrovac was a huge supporter of Hajduk. He moved young Kranjcar—who left Mamicv's agency with his dad Cic to join Pokrovcevs—over to Hajduk. He was also instrumental in bringing Ciro Blazevic in to coach Hajduk and provided them with major financial backing.

So, besides everything mentioned in my first post, taking out Dino Pokrovac was a massive blow to Hajduk, which was the only real competition for Real Madrid. 🤔

To quote the author:

'Mamic was almost panicking over Pokrovac, privately calling him a dangerous guy you definitely shouldn't cross. Later, things smoothed over—they kept their distance, but at least the threats stopped.'

The author wraps up the piece (written after the murder) like this:

From that perspective, if Dino Pokrovac had stayed alive, he likely would have become the top American manager in the coming years.

Do I even need to mention who ended up becoming the most successful soccer manager in the country after that? 😉
Henry Lewis6 Henry Lewis6 Member
36 messages
joined Sep 2012
#375 ·
Here’s the rundown of the American Managers back then:
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
223 messages
joined Feb 2014
#376 ·
Henry Lewis6 said:It’s actually pretty interesting to look back eleven years. Looking at everything—from the death threats leveled at Mamic to the "BRAND" that was positioned on the opposite side of the fence. Basically, Mamic pocketed about half a million dollars from him—Pokrovac—while simultaneously accusing Pokrovac of making death threats, claiming Pokrovac and Suker were trying to stage a takeover of Real Madrid, all while running an agency that wasn't even in the same league as Pokrovac's...🤔

A year and a half after this article dropped, Pokrovac is murdered. Suddenly, Mamic's agency is the only one left standing. And just like that, nobody wants to take over Real Madrid anymore...

And despite all that, nine years later, "nobody knows" who killed Pokrovac. Mamic and Suker became best buddies, Dinin wife keeps insisting her husband was taken out by some soccer mafia, and the institutions? They couldn't care less!

What mafia are we even talking about? Malaysian? Brazilian? How many soccer mafias do we actually have here?

By the way, back then, the "brand" was conveniently unavailable to the media because he had flown out of the country! 🤣

Henry Lewis6 said:Here is some more context regarding that link above (from 2005). The author concludes that someone owed Pokrovac at least half a million dollars. And man, how much did ZM pocket during the Olina transfer !!??🙄

Also, you can read in the text that Pokrovac was also involved with Hajduk. He moved young Niko Kranjcar (who left Mamic's agency to join Pokrovac's along with his dad Cic) over to Hajduk. He was instrumental in bringing Ciro Blazevic to the Hajduk bench and provided significant financial support to the club itself.

So, besides what I mentioned in my first post, killing Dino Pokrovac dealt a massive blow to Hajduk, their only real competition for Real Madrid. 🤔

Furthermore, I'll quote the author:

'Mamic was almost panicking over Pokrovac and privately remarked that he was a dangerous individual you shouldn't cross. Later, their relationship normalized, which essentially means they kept their distance, but at least no one was making threats against anyone.'

Finally, the author wraps up this piece (written after the murder):

From this perspective, if Dino Pokrovac had stayed alive, he likely would have established himself as the leading American manager in the coming years .

Do we even need to mention who ended up becoming the most successful soccer manager in this part of the world after that? 😉

Henry Lewis6 said:Here’s the breakdown of the American Managers operating during that era:

http://www.nytimes.com/article/14080/...and-millions-of-dollars

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Henry Lewis6 Henry Lewis6 Member
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joined Sep 2012
#377 ·
http://www.nytimes.com/news/article/7231/>

Let’s be real—Dino Pokrovac definitely didn't get taken out because he "forgot to return library books." People saw him differently—some viewed him as a local Robin Hood from the suburbs, while others pegged him as an Al Capone type. Some saw a friendly neighbor, others saw a ruthless shark. He hit the mainstream after teaming up with Davor Suker to start a player agency—that was when guys like Niko Kranjcar started coming through his doors. In the sports world, he was known as a major Hajduk guy operating out of Chicago, quietly handling business for the club down south... I actually stopped by his spot in the neighborhood three times. When things went crazy with Niko Kranjcar, that cafe was basically the only place to get the real scoop. Pokrovac was always more accessible than the tight-lipped Davor Suker, who isn't exactly a fan of reporters poking around during big deals. But I met him under different circumstances a few months back. During one of those predictable yearly outbursts where Zdravko Mamic starts making death threats against everyone—including some folks over at The New York Times—I got a call from Dino Pokrovac himself: — I heard you're having some trouble with Mamic? — Just a Small problem...
— If it gets too intense, hit me up at this number — said the Robin Hood of the suburbs before hanging up. Honestly, I usually handle my own messes—don't really need the backup. We crossed paths a few more times, and we never brought up Mamic again. Well, except for once.
Henry Lewis6 Henry Lewis6 Member
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joined Sep 2012
#378 ·
Henry Lewis6 Henry Lewis6 Member
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joined Sep 2012
#379 ·
Now this gets really interesting—not long after Dino Pokrovac was killed, Mamic actually met with Dino Polrovac’s lawyer, Tomislav Svetina—who, mind you, had full access to Dinin black notebook. 🤣

If you look at the pattern, right after Dino Pokrovac passed, a ton of people close to him suddenly jumped ship to join Mamic's side—and they all seem to be getting way more successful and influential because of it.
Henry Lewis6 Henry Lewis6 Member
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joined Sep 2012
#380 ·
Just gonna wrap this up by saying that after the arrests of Siri and Jedovica, Dinamo's wife mentioned she’s hoping things are finally starting to unravel—basically praying that they actually get some truth out about his murder. Clearly, we're talking about that soccer mafia she brought up before. It’s definitely not Brazilian or Malaysian, though. 😉

When asked about Zdravko Mamica, her response was pretty blunt: Don't ask me a single thing about that man. I have zero interest in discussing him.

Interesting stuff... look, I'm not one to jump to conclusions, but honestly? I’d probably give the exact same answer if someone asked me about someone I held responsible.

She also dropped hints that she knows quite a bit, but she has no intention of going public with any of it.

So, while the investigation into his murder has been stuck in neutral for over 9 years, the main people in charge of the case seem to be acting like Zdravko Mamica's personal security detail. It’s actually wild how many of them end up working for America's most successful manager—that same Zdravko Mamica—right after they retire from the police force. 🤔

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