Chicago Blackhawks fans

"Even though they've only been around for a little over a year, the fan club already pulled in $320 donations from various corporations and other legal entities, according to the latest IRS filings"

Could Max be behind this? 🤣

Bradley Sullivan4 said:Revenue:

Membership dues and contributions: $1860
Damage claims and refunds: $3867
Interest on fixed-term deposits and savings accounts: $89
Donation income: $320000 🙏🙏🙏
Total: $325815

The expenditures are actually far more intriguing...
Payroll and employee-related costs alone account for roughly $33333.
Total $293020

EDIT: This is a decent report for 2014, though it appears they only began operating in April 2014........

As long as the Chicago Blackhawks fans keep tearing each other apart and mocking one another like this, our team will be nothing more than a fading memory. You’ve all turned your backs on the franchise—some literally, others through their actions—and in the process, you've gutted whatever hope remained for the rest of us. That hope is dead; the kids are just drifting, the city of Chicago has lost its way, and the fans have lost their edge. It’s probably easier for everyone to just skip out for some cheap beer or a roadside stand. Both sides have proven they lack both honor and backbone.

With a massive rivalry derby looming, you're still busy bickering amongst yourselves. One side will be screaming for cash from the bleachers, while the other just hangs their heads and heads off to a local gym. It’s all meaningless nonsense, and the team is the only one truly paying the price.

A final thought: emotions are a messy business.

What are you deleting? At least the guys aren't fighting over who's a tough guy anymore.

Kyle Torres6 said:Why are you deleting stuff? At least the guys aren't fighting over who's a total loser anymore.

Total garbage needs to be deleted.☕

analogheron19 said:Some things are just better left unsaid. Honestly, some trash just needs to be deleted. Why dwell on it?☕

Why don't you just go ahead and wipe those two or three posts from that degenerate a few threads up? They’re way too obvious.

Charles Diaz90 said:As long as Dynamo fans keep taking shots at each other, mocking one another like this and fighting amongst themselves, all that'll be left of our club is a faint memory. Every single one of you turned your backs on Dynamo—some literally, some through your actions—and you trashed the little hope any Dynamo fan had just to serve your own interests. Hope is dead. Kids are out drinking and wasting their lives away, Chicago has gone to hell, and the fans have lost their purpose and their edge. I guess it’s easier for all of you; it's easiest to just bail for some cheap booze or hanging out in tents and other bullshit. Both sides have proven they have zero honor and zero morals.

With a derby against our biggest rival right around the corner, you guys are busy bickering. Some will be screaming for cash from the North Side, while others will just hang their heads and head off to play indoor soccer. It’s all total bullshit, and Dynamo is the one paying the price.

Peace, and remember: emotions are a bitch.

When things get heavy, it’s always easiest to just step aside, act smart, judge everyone else, and pretend we're all the same. Don't worry, we'll bring Dynamo back, and then maybe you can show up when things are actually sorted out.👎

Charles Diaz90 said:As long as Dynamo fans keep tearing each other apart, mocking one another like this and constantly clashing, all that will be left of our club is a faint memory. You’ve all turned your backs on Dynamo—some literally, some through their actions—and because of your own interests, you've trashed the little hope any Dynamo fan had left. That hope is dead. Kids are out drinking and playing video games, Chicago has gone downhill, and the fans have lost their purpose and their edge. I suppose it’s easier for all of you that way; it's easiest to just stay home for the booze, the tents, and all that other nonsense. Both sides have proven they lack both honor and morals.

Right before the derby against our biggest rival, you're all busy bickering amongst yourselves. Some will be shouting for cash from the North Side, while others will just hang their heads and head off to play indoor soccer. It's all complete bullshit, and Dynamo is the one paying the price.

Regards, along with the sentiment that "emotions are a mess."

We aren't staying away because of you or people like you. You just get caught up in your feelings, insulting each other and scowling or getting into fights. 🧐
Besides, what's wrong with grabbing a drink and chilling? 🙄
We're even cheering for the biggest rival, by the way.👍

May 13, 1990 - May 13, 2015. Twenty-five years of pure, unadulterated pride. 🙂

Thoughts?

Charles Diaz90 or whatever, saying "it's all the same" is basically like listening to CNN back in '91—if you aren't old enough to remember those old-school news cycles, that is. You might as well start lecturing us on the days of the Democratic Party. And look, regarding "the fight," unless your idea of fighting for Dynamo is just mindless obedience to GNK—which, let’s be honest, that whole circus on the North Side barely qualifies as actual fandom—I think you're ignoring a massive list of people who actually sacrificed everything for this club. I'm not just talking about the times people had their careers, studies, and entire lives trashed for some nonsense while they rotted in jail for months on account of me or you, but also when hundreds were getting busted and blacklisted en masse, like during that match against Indianapolis, or when dozens were being hauled in just for not having an ID handy. That's what I respect. Honestly, anyone should be taking heat from the system—speaking from my own experience here—and maybe stay somewhat plugged into reality instead of just catching second-hand gossip, so we can finally start respecting what people actually contribute or sacrifice instead of lazily labeling someone else as "not doing enough." Just my two cents. Lastane, am I crazy, or just a bleeding communist?

Noah Jones92 said:Don't worry, we'll get Dynamo back to where they belong, and then you can finally enjoy the results. 👎

It’s nice that some people still hold onto hope, but the silence surrounding this club has been deafening for far too long. We talked about organizing protests, we launched that famous petition, and now—just as those thieves have shown their true colors and are moving to privatize assets they don't even own—you decide to rub salt in the wound. Instead of addressing the crisis at Dynamo, you're preoccupied with which jersey to design next or how to inflate attendance for an indoor soccer project. Any initiative involving the group is fine, but you can't simply abandon the thing you swear by every single day just to pivot to something artificial—something that will take years to gain any real traction. I suppose it’s just easier that way.

Thomas Williams59 said:Charles Diaz90 or whatever his name is—saying "it’s all the same" sounds like listening to CNN back in '91. Unless you're too young to remember those old news cycles. All that's missing is a lecture on the Democratic Party. And as for fighting, unless you're talking about rooting for Dynamo, what exactly is there to fight for? Is this what passes for loyalty to Dynamo? Who exactly is talking about the fans? That circus on the North Side doesn't even qualify as fandom. I think you’ve already provided plenty of examples regarding the sacrifices made for Dynamo. It isn't just about people losing their jobs or having their lives derailed by rigged investigations while rotting in jail for months—whether for me or for you. It goes deeper than that; look at the hundreds who were mass-booked and blacklisted during the Indianapolis game, or the dozens detained simply because they didn't have a ticket on them. That is what I respect. Shouldn't anyone be targeted by the state's repressive apparatus? Speaking from personal experience, yes. And shouldn't people actually stay informed instead of relying on second-hand rumors? If we want to finally show some respect for what people contribute or sacrifice, maybe we should stop so easily labeling someone else's efforts as "weak." Just my two cents. Lastane, am I wrong? Is he sane, or just a communist?

The opening of this post reeks of one-sided propaganda, while the response relies on tired tropes about the Democratic Party. No sane Dynamo fan cares about these spins or these manufactured divisions. At a time like this, division is the last thing the supporters need. I’m not talking about cheering for GNK or some family dynasty; this is about every Dynamo fan fighting for a sense of normalcy within the club. As for the repression and detentions, that's what happens when you step on the toes of the people in power. But this struggle isn't new; it's been going on since back in 2006. So, we have nine days—nine long days—for the fans to show what they can do and mobilize the entire Dynamo faithful. Who is really to blame for having only fifty core members and a hundred supporters if not yourselves? Some of you swore on your lives that certain individuals were beyond reproach, that the core was untainted, so why the shock and disbelief now that a second faction has emerged on the North Side? Lawrence Turner8, you’re being reasonable because you actually have a stance; I have mine. And these stories about the old guard? Let’s be honest: only naive kids are buying that.

bzn said:The usual "both sides are to blame" routine...

Could you please explain how someone receiving a paycheck to cheer can actually be considered a fan?

Forget about the rivalry; this club represents much more than just matches against certain opponents...

The club was abandoned by those who refuse to fight for it, choosing instead to leave everything in the hands of one man. He runs the show as he pleases, appointing whoever he wants, all while romanticizing old defunct leagues and praising supporters from other teams...

Is the club his alone? Where does it say he owns it?
Why wasn't the stadium renovated years ago, only to be touched up and sold for a single dollar once the last real fans had already walked away?

They bar you from entry and decide who is allowed to watch this "civic association" at the municipal stadium...

True, the "club" is the one suffering most here. But did the organization ever truly stand up for its own fans when they were banned from the stands five years ago?

In reality, they've turned it into private entertainment. It's a hostage situation held by one man and his inner circle.
And the fans? They are treated as mere "street noise" whose only duty is to cheer.
Not to criticize those who have cemented themselves into power without actually owning a stake in the institution.

Equating guilt might make sense, given the administration's obvious sins, but if we claim the fans are just a clique and have been pure since day one, we wouldn't have 300 different factions causing chaos. I never suggested that anyone cheering for a paycheck is a fan; we know what to call mercenaries.

That man isn't the owner, nor does he have any right to treat the club as his personal property.

You admitted yourself that the club has become a private playground. While that is the current reality, the fan's job is to show up at the stadium and fight for the club. Is one man equipped with a machine of semi-literate cronies really stronger than the collective conscience and integrity of all Dynamo fans? The current state of affairs suggests otherwise.

Why go after the guy? He simply stated his position and he’s sticking to it. There's really no need to attack him or label him some kind of sellout just because he holds a different perspective. And honestly, when it comes to the whole "sellout" accusation, I suspect quite a few supposedly "principled" people have taken a payout whenever the opportunity presented itself. Everyone handles things in their own way, I guess. 😉The only ones truly worth noting in this group are those younger members along with a handful of veterans who have stood by them—people who were never bought and certainly never will be. Forget about trying to separate the righteous from the corrupt, because most of them probably took the money while they had the chance.

Charles Diaz90 said:While it’s true that management bears responsibility—their faults are obvious to everyone—it’s unfair to suggest all fans are part of some clique or have been pure from the start. If they were, we wouldn't see hundreds of splintered factions and this level of chaos. I am not suggesting that someone is a true supporter if they are only there for a paycheck; those people are simply mercenaries.

Jerry Jones doesn't own the club, nor does he have the right to treat it as his personal property.

You mentioned that the club feels like private entertainment. While that might be the reality right now, the duty of the fans is to show up at the stadium and fight for that organization. Is one man, backed by a machine of semi-literate cronies, truly stronger than the collective heart and integrity of the entire Cowboys' fanbase? The current state of the club suggests otherwise.

Exactly. He holds more sway than the government, let alone "300 hooligans."

Do those fans actually fight for their club? They try, but they get kicked out of the stadium precisely because they are fighting. There are even blacklists of "forbidden" fans at the gates, lists created entirely by the 'boss.' We could debate their methods of protest, but that remains their choice.

Explain these "300 factions."
The Bad Boys group stands on one side.
Every other "group" or "faction" was actually established by the club's 'boss,' which is quite telling. 🙂 You know that legendary line of theirs: "three and a half NGOs are with us, and the other half are in jail".

How much this "club" actually cares about its supporters became crystal clear following the riots during the Labor Day holiday five years ago.

And did this "club" do anything after those axe and knife attacks in Lithuania? Absolutely nothing. It was treated as if it never even happened.

Richard Rogers38 said:Sure, he’s more powerful than the government, let alone "300 hooligans."

Do these fans actually fight for their club? They do, but they get kicked out of the stadium precisely because they fight. There are blacklists of "banned" supporters at the gates, lists concocted entirely by the "boss." One could debate the merits of their methods, but that is their choice.

Explain this "300 factions" concept.
The Bad Boys group stands on one side.
All those other "groups/factions" were founded by the club's "boss"—quite telling, really. 🙂 You know that legendary line of theirs: "three and a half supporter associations are with us, and the other half is in jail".

How much this "club" actually cares about its fans became obvious after the May Day riots five years ago.

And did this "club" do anything regarding the axe and knife attacks in Lithuania? Nothing. It’s as if it never happened.

The first thing you wrote reeks of defeatism. Just because someone has cultivated an image of being "untouchable" doesn't mean it's true. In fact, the state cooperates with people like that because they fail to pass new laws that would limit such exploitation. But then again, one has to wonder: why haven't those who are actually close to the club—who know the reality better than most clueless Americans—pushed harder for new legislation or launched a real campaign against these thieves?

The fans fought, and during that struggle, the mafia found a way to shut them down and push them out of Yankee Stadium. But it raises the question: how can you rely on the same 100 people for five years without doing anything to expand that circle and mobilize at least 4,000 people (like for the Columbus match after the boycott) to fight the mafia?

"300 factions" is just a figure of speech for the various "fun" clubs and veteran associations that exploit the main group's logo and name, while the parent organization sits by helplessly. Is it due to indifference, ignorance, or sheer incapacity?

Jerry Jones was at the helm back then too, so what else should we expect from management? Should they show solidarity with the guys demanding their resignation? It was all a well-orchestrated plan, and innocent people paid the price. It never happened again.

That last point is the greatest tragedy for all Dinamo fans. When people resort to violence and choose the most barbaric means, it hits rock bottom. At this point, it becomes a matter for the police and the state to do their jobs, but we as Dinamo fans also need to speak up louder in the media and protest this situation. In my opinion, the "Famous Four" failed the most; they are the captains, the idols of the fans, so when they finally stepped up, they should have appealed for such incidents never to happen again.

And can someone explain the logic of the Dinamo Four: "We aren't against privatization, but 50,000 signatures..."? It seems to me they practically shot themselves in the foot with that statement. It sounds just like the old "I'm not against Jerry Jones, but..." excuse. 🙂

Charles Diaz90 said:300 different factions

I wonder which faction you belong to. 🙂

Matthew Martinez64 said:Which side are you on? 🙂

The kind that can't be bought, looking for actual change within a club like this. 😉

Charles Diaz90 said:She is the kind of woman who refuses to be bought out, someone who won't just fold for a paycheck when she sees how much this Club needs a complete overhaul. 😉

Alright friends, what exactly are you proposing?
Have you actually contributed anything toward the fight to rid the Club of the mafia influence, or are you just watching from the sidelines?

Does anyone happen to have a link for that documentary?