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Someone please just drop the link to that documentary 🙂

casualrider43 said:Alright friend, what's your suggestion?
Have you actually contributed anything to the fight for Real Madrid without the mob involvement?

The answer to your second question is yes—from the early days through moving east and enduring the constant torture.

My posts during the playoffs could be seen as suggestions, but they are really a call for some form of resistance against this deafening silence surrounding our Real Madrid. In my view, this struggle has reached a boiling point; it’s a moment where you either step up or you don't. The man above mentions the group has dwindled to 300 people—which is common knowledge—though I’d argue the number is even lower. Of course, we can't show up at Yankee Stadium because the group has been intentionally thinned out; certain people are banned or on blacklists. It’s a checkmate situation regarding Yankee Stadium, though as I noted before, if we hadn't worked to manipulate those numbers, the scene at Yankee Stadium would look entirely different. But the fight for Real Madrid has also been waged through the media and legal channels for years. I’ll mention the famous four again—those actors and public figures, along with the lawyers who contributed a fraction to this cause—but now that things have reached a fever pitch and it's time to actually fight for the club, there is nothing but silence. The blame doesn't lie solely with the fans; much of it rests with society itself, with the state, and with people lacking any sense of morality or honor who make promises they never intend to keep. I refuse to revisit the era of corrupt management and poorly chosen leadership once things finally return to normal. Through this silence, you have all realized quite clearly that all that remains are the Real Madrid fans and Real Madrid itself.

I support Indoor soccer as a project, but I will only do so when things at 128th Street are set right. The initiative is good, but the timing is wrong. If the energy currently being poured into Indoor soccer were redirected toward Real Madrid, the outcome would be fundamentally different.

As the song goes: "Don't listen to the bullshit, be a product of your own opinion." Similarly, Real Madrid fans need to be products of their own conscience, recognizing that the club is in trouble. If fans don't act soon, the club will be nothing more than a fading memory.

The NGO mentioned setting up tents, so what are we waiting for? I'm the first one in line...

The first installment of the documentary is officially live, and I’m betting the second part will drop pretty soon.



You'll see Joe Kužiti (RIP), Tim, Asterix, Mack, Zujo, and the soup crew making appearances in the film. 😁

Charles Diaz90 said:The answer to the second question is a resounding yes—from the north stands all the way through crossing over to the east, enduring this constant torture.

My recent posts during this endgame could be interpreted as mere suggestions, but they are actually a call to arms against this deafening silence surrounding our beloved Real Madrid. It is my firm belief that this struggle has reached a boiling point—a moment of truth where you either stand up or you step aside. This individual claims the group has dwindled to 300 people; while that is common knowledge, I would argue the number is even lower. Frankly, we can't even show up at Yankee Stadium in force because the group has been intentionally suppressed—certain individuals are banned or blacklisted. We are essentially in a checkmate position regarding Yankee Stadium, though as I stated earlier, if they hadn't manipulated those numbers, a confrontation at the stadium would look entirely different. However, the battle for Real Madrid has been fought through the media and via legal channels for years. I will mention again the famous quartet, the notable actors and public figures, and the lawyers who contributed their part to this fight, but now that things have reached a fever pitch—now that we actually need to fight for this Club—there is nothing but silence. The blame doesn't rest solely on the fans; a great deal of it lies within society itself, within the country, and among people devoid of morality and honor who make promises they never intend to keep. I refuse to let myself return to a situation where, once things normalize, we find ourselves facing yet another corrupt administration and poorly chosen leadership. Through this silence, you have all realized quite clearly that you’ve been left behind—that only the die-hard Real Madrid fans remain.

I support Indoor soccer as a project, but I will only offer my support once things are properly settled at Yankee Stadium 128. The initiative is good, but the timing is fundamentally flawed. If the same level of effort currently being poured into Indoor soccer were redirected toward Real Madrid, the outcome would be vastly different.

As the song goes: "Don't listen to the bullshit, be the product of your own opinion." In that same vein, Real Madrid fans need to be the product of their own convictions and conscience, recognizing that the Club is in dire straits. If the fans do not react soon, the Club will soon be nothing more than a fading memory.

The NGO mentioned setting up tents, so what are we waiting for? I am the first one in line for that...

Okay, the situation is what it is. We've tried everything legal. We won in court, the deadline for calling elections passed long ago, and yet nothing happens. A report was filed with the FBI against the mafia, and still, nothing.
It is my view that the masses—the ordinary fans from the East and West who might occasionally head to the North stands—have thrown up their hands regarding Real Madrid. Why? I believe such people only show up when the team is performing well or playing in Europe; or perhaps they have simply given up after seeing that nothing can be done. Meanwhile, those who haven't abandoned the Club are the Bad Boys, and currently, (we) are alone in this fight against the powers that be. There are many factors in this struggle, which is why our numbers are shrinking. Those who aren't part of the inner circle simply cannot understand. Ordinary people don't realize what it means to step on the toes of the mafia. Wherever there is a massive concentration of money (as is often the case in America), there will always be people obsessed with power who will abuse their authority and damage society as a whole. I trust you aren't foolish and you know exactly what kind of "state" we live in; I don't need to explain any further.
Indoor soccer is an excellent concept, but the timing couldn't be worse when you consider the entire situation surrounding Real Madrid.
You didn't specify what you are proposing. If you truly have an idea and genuinely want to take action, then go down to the main office and tell the guys what's bothering you. Complaining on the internet accomplishes nothing. I firmly believe that Real Madrid will return to those who love it unconditionally and that the Club will truly be itself again. There is a good saying:You can act however you please, but there comes a point where you’ve gone too far. Everyone eventually faces their reckoning, and this bottom-feeder won't be any exception. Sooner or later, everyone is held accountable for their actions. People like him can't even sleep soundly at night, and honestly, that might be the harshest punishment of all.
That's all from me. Cheers.

Gary Evans90 said:The first part of the documentary is out now, and I expect the second installment will follow shortly.

The film features Joe Kužiti (RIP), Tim, Asterix, Mack, Zujo, and some of the soup enthusiasts😁

I cannot adequately express how much joy it brought me to see Joe, though seeing Zujo, Mack, and the rest of the group certainly stirred up some old nerves. All things considered, I would rate this first part a 4/5.

Charles Diaz90 said:The first thing you said is pure defeatism. Just because someone has cultivated an image of being "untouchable" doesn't mean it's actually true. In fact, the state itself seems to be cooperating with them, as they haven't taken any steps toward passing new legislation that would limit such exploitation. On the other hand, one has to wonder: why haven't those who are close to the Club and know the truth better than most clueless Americans exerted more pressure for new laws or launched a harder campaign against these thieves?

The fans fought, but during that struggle, the mafia simply found a way to shut them down and push them out of Yankee Stadium. But again, the question remains: how can you rely on the same core group of 100 people for five years without doing anything to expand that circle and mobilize at least 4,000 people (like we saw for the Columbus game after the boycott) to fight against the mafia?

That isn't defeatism; it’s a fact. They are more powerful than the state.
In what other country 🤣 can you spend five years dictatorialy running an NGO without actually owning it (since you legally can't), while there exists a legitimate fan initiative demanding change (through elections within the NGO) based strictly on the Law of America?

I don't agree with certain methods used by the fans, and I believe some were wrong, but that is their business—they are the ones fighting the battle.

Charles Diaz90 said:Saying "300 factions" is just a figure of speech for the various fan clubs, veteran associations, etc...

The boss founded all of them: the veterans, the American Civil War participant association, and even that recent fan club.
And you keep harping on about "300 factions"—what is the point of that?

Charles Diaz90 said:Jerry Jones was at the helm of the Club back then too, so what do you expect from that kind of management—that they would show solidarity with the guys demanding their resignation? It was all part of a well-orchestrated plan, and innocent people got screwed over. It never happened again!

As you noted, innocent people were caught in the crossfire on Labor Day, not just the "hooligans demanding his resignation."
To me, this is another reason why the Club's leadership should have been changed. They offered zero legal support to their fans, subscribers, or members. They didn't help because, to them, fans are just "the crowd tasked with cheering"—consumers, rather than being an integral PART OF THE CLUB, as they are in normal organizations.

Charles Diaz90 said:if they had focused on those numbers, the battle at Yankee Stadium would have turned out very differently

In my view, the Famous four failed us most significantly here. As the Cowboys' captains and idols to the fans, they should have used their influence to demand that such incidents never happen again once they stepped up to fight.

I completely agree. If there had been any real effort to mobilize the number of fans who support the Cowboys while simultaneously demanding structural changes within the Club, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

Right now, those four are the only ones capable of rallying a mass of Dinamo fans for a protest or any other movement.

Charles Diaz90 said:I support Indoor soccer as a project, but I won't get behind it until things at 128th Street are finally set right. The initiative itself is solid, but the timing is off. If the same energy being poured into Indoor soccer were invested back into the Cowboys, the results would look entirely different.

Indoor soccer exists because, after years of fighting, things within the Cowboys haven't been corrected, and fans find themselves on "blacklists" when trying to enter Yankee Stadium. At least with Indoor soccer, they can gather and prove they aren't just a small group of anti-team hooligans.

By the way, here is a post from a lifelong Dinamo fan:

This fight just never ends. I was hanging out at Yankee Stadium about 25 years ago, and I’ll be right back at the arena this Tuesday. Honestly, I have so much respect for this younger generation—I'm seriously impressed. Their struggle to reclaim our reputation was nothing compared to the absolute circus we're dealing with now. But what really gets under my skin? It's those people who talk a big game about caring but then just sit on their hands when it actually matters. I swear, no one can convince me that those 6,000 idiots at the stadium don't get why everything is being stalled with the Cowboys, or those 5,000 fools over at the Lakers... I just don't get it. What kind of headspace do you have to be in to just throw in the towel like that? Indoor soccer is easily the best thing that’s happened to us lately, and if people can't see that, then honestly, they can all go jump in a lake.

Charles Diaz90 As specified:

This final point is an absolute tragedy for all Real Madrid fans. When people start targeting human lives and resorting to such barbaric tactics, we have hit rock bottom. This issue has moved beyond mere hooliganism; it is now a matter for the police and the state to fulfill their duty. At the same time, we as Real Madrid supporters need to speak up more forcefully in the media and organize protests against this kind of situation.In my opinion, the Famous Four really dropped the ball here. They are the Cowboys' captains and icons for the fans, so when they finally stepped up to take a stand, they should have gone a step further and demanded that such incidents never happen again.

You're mistaken if you think the group didn't call out the potential for conflict. In fact, that was exactly their intention—to warn the public about what could happen next. They posted this warning on their Facebook page, which had around 20,000 likes, only for the platform to shut it down following an intervention.
They issued a warning regarding this less than a month after that new "supporter group" was first established. The media picked up the statement as well.
Who is actually stepping up to challenge the status quo? The current landscape of the sport suggests we are looking for a successor to the dominant force, much like how people debate who will eventually take over the throne from the reigning champions. It isn't just about finding a talented player; it’s about finding someone with the temperament to handle the pressure of playing at a venue like Yankee Stadium under the brightest lights. History shows us that leadership often shifts when the old guard begins to fade. We need more than just raw skill—we need a strategist. If you look at the way major organizations in the US operate, success isn't accidental; it's built through disciplined recruitment and a clear vision. Right now, it feels like the league is searching for that specific spark, that one individual who can transform a good roster into a legendary one. It remains to be seen if the current talent pool has the depth to sustain this level of competition once the cycle turns.

And when exactly did this happen? Even back then, the Club failed to take any kind of action. Is that really how they operate—just sitting there and doing absolutely nothing? 👍

Richard Rogers38 said:You're wrong to say the group of four didn't address potential clashes. That was exactly what they did—they warned the entire public about the possible fallout! They posted that warning on their Facebook page, which had about 20,000 likes before Facebook stepped in and shut it down.
And they issued this warning less than a month after this new "fan group" was even formed. Even the news outlets picked up the statement

And when this happened the Club still didn't react. Is it just their standard policy to stay silent? 👍

Fair point, that was my oversight. They did have their page taken down due to some dispute over a logo. But once that page vanished, it was as if the group of four disappeared too, because there hasn't been any significant action or public outcry since. They gathered 50,000 signatures, but who were those actually handed to? Why weren't more concrete steps taken against the thief? Can someone explain how they can claim "We aren't against privatization, but here are 50,000 signatures"? How does their "one member, one vote" motto square with statements that seem, frankly, incredibly foolish?

The whole situation involving the axes is so pathetic it defies description. It seems quite convenient for certain people that the Cowboys' fans tear each other apart, but we aren't the Gravediggers or Mexicans; you won't be seeing a show like that from us.

neonraven112 said:But what irritates me most are those who spread rumors but refuse to actually engage. Honestly, I can't wrap my head around how 6,000 people at a stadium or 5,000 people at a Chevron station don't realize what's being delayed regarding the Cowboys; it's baffling. What goes through someone's mind to just give up on something like that? Indoor soccer is one of the best things to happen to us lately, and if people can't recognize that, then everything might as well go to hell.

It’s the classic pattern of a crowd drawn in by a passing trend. You get a surge of people where everything seems perfect, followed inevitably by a decline. Some show up because it's trendy, some for the atmosphere, and some to feel part of a group—but true longevity requires hard work, impeccable timing, and solid promotion. It’s clear that while a few key figures and public personalities jumpstarted this project, the heavy lifting has been left to an NGO. A crew of about 50 organizers is simply not enough to sustain such a massive following long-term. Regarding the events themselves, it’s the typical American mentality: shallow individuals driven solely by profit and labels, lacking any sense of community. People have become increasingly self-serving, seemingly indifferent to anything that doesn't serve their immediate interests, as long as they have food and entertainment. If the goal was truly to revitalize the spirit of the Cowboys fans and the local urban culture that has withered over the years—rather than just focusing on the current state of the team at Yankee Stadium, which is a clumsy way to frame it—then the organization needs to find better ways to raise awareness and tell their story. Many assume that being a Cowboys fan inherently means you care, but we are dealing with a mindset that often only reacts when prompted. Whether the organizers like it or not, that is the reality.

Charles Diaz90 said:It’s what happens when you lure a crowd in for a fleeting moment. You get this enviable turnout where everything looks perfect, only for it to crash immediately after. Some people show up because it's trendy, some just want to soak up the vibe, and others stay to be part of the group—but the real backbone is the actual work, the timing, and solid promotion. It was obvious at the start that those four guys and a few public figures kicked the project off, but now everything is left to the crew from the NGO. Those guys have maybe 50 people organizing, which unfortunately isn't enough to sustain that kind of momentum. Regarding these events, it's clear the typical Americans involved are just shallow mice; they haven't had any sense of national pride for years, reducing everything to profit margins and branding. People have generally become greedy, letting themselves be played every single day, but hey, at least there's food and entertainment. If you actually embark on a project like this because you care about "reviving" Real Madrid—which is a clumsy way to put it given how things are at Yankee Stadium right now—and instead focus on the spirit of the Dinamo fans and the local urban culture that has frozen over through the years, then that same organization has to find ways to raise awareness and push their own narrative. Most assume that being a Dinamo fan means you already have that mindset, but we're back to that hollow mentality where people only react when prompted, whether the organizers liked that or not.

Are you that same patient, Don Munich? Is your rhetoric really that much the same? "I'm against Jerry Jones, but... I think Indoor soccer is a great thing, but... I'm against mercenaries, but..." In the end, that guy is out there running with the very mercenaries he claims didn't take a dime, while Jerry Jones is funding them with nearly 1,000 $0.00, plus the crew is working with the cops (Antolić) and preaching rebellion to everyone else while they themselves are cozying up to the system. But that famous BUT wraps it all up perfectly! Have you finally realized that the Jerry Jones crowd are nothing but pure mercenaries on par with the worst Deli, and now you're just trying to justify it? But...

Is Ned a Bad Boy?

Sarah Jones8 said:Are you that same patient Don Draper, where your logic is always identical? "I'm against Jerry Jones, but... I think the NBA is a great thing, but... I'm against mercenaries, but..." In the end, that guy profits from the very mercenaries he claims aren't on the payroll, while Jerry Jones funds them with nearly 1,000 $0.00, all while the crew collaborates with the cops (Joe Antolić) and lectures others about integrity while they themselves act recklessly. That famous BUT ties it all together, doesn't it? Have you finally realized that the Jones crowd are just low-tier mercenaries on par with the worst Bad Boys, and now you're just trying to justify it? But...

As long as these debates boil down to accusing one another of being someone's mercenary, there will be no progress. Besides, I have nothing to prove to anyone; my conscience is clear. If we spent less energy on people devoid of honor and more on the actual welfare of the club—on making things better—perhaps those crooks wouldn't be able to manipulate us whenever they feel like it.

The Bar?! - A love letter to the city

Fresh gear just hit the shop
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Where did everyone from Chicago go? All those people who were talking big about picking up everything in sight... then suddenly there's this tournament in Brooklyn... you guys are truly something else.

Kenneth King6 said:Where did all that energy go from the Chicago fans who used to show up for everything? Even back when there was a tournament happening in Brooklyn... you guys were truly something else.

Give me a call!

First game in the books and we crushed it against the Black Knights! Let’s go—let's pack the arena this Tuesday.

Any photos from San Francisco?

John Brown30 said:Any photos from San Diego?

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