Chicago Blackhawks fans

Kenneth Martinez8 said:http://www.hrhb.info/showthread.php?...l=1#post379281

It’s pretty obvious, honestly. I don't think there's any way he wasn't right there at the front of the line on purpose.

Coincidence? Yeah, right, lol. 🙂 I mean, who cares about the veterans, they all have their $2333 pensions anyway. Personally, I feel like it might even be too much money for someone who lost limbs and sacrificed their family, their health, and their entire youth on the front lines. Plus, let's face it, the government doesn't really treat them with half the respect they show die-hard sports fans. It’s almost a shame they didn't feel the sting of a baton to the kidney like we fans do, because then maybe they'd realize you shouldn't mess with those wearing the horns. Come on, let's send a message for St. Louis and for Jack just to prove that us fans actually care about our national identity 😉 Everything for the USA, though the USA isn't worth much. Goodnight.

Andrew Peterson6 said:Do you think the Bad Boys will actually do something about these veteran protests, or does the leadership—you know, "not interested in politics" as you claim—just not care?

Give me a break. If the group leaders twenty years ago had been anything like they are today, those guys probably wouldn't have even shown up with Max back in May of '90, hiding behind the excuse that "politics isn't our thing."

Seriously, why does the Bad Boys name always have to be dragged into this? I don't get it.
What, should we show up in full gear just so everyone knows we're backing them? To get what they want—just like in years past—it takes more than just showing face; it takes grit and actual people. Whether it was Jack with Marisol or that first crew from the White Angels!

How do you even know there weren't a hundred regular faces from the BBB mixed in with those protesters today? Did they all need to wear jerseys just to prove they were there?

Imagine if we held a protest out West, and ten guys working at Pan Bakery showed up wearing their hats just so everyone would know they were from the bakery. It’s ridiculous.🙏

Reminds me of that whole situation with Kellogg's. If you want to support a cause, you go down to where it's happening and offer your help privately. Doesn't matter if it's veterans, construction workers, or animal rights activists.

If you feel they deserve your support, then by all means, go ahead and offer it; if not, don't. This group isn't some political sect or a single-issue party where everyone is forced to share identical ideologies and stances. We should be discussing Sunday here, rather than debating matters that fall under the realm of individual choice.

There are 500 of us in this group and 927 members total, yet some people still feel the need to keep bickering. BBB is just a spot in the stands this Sunday for anyone who actually cares about supporting Real Madrid. If someone wants to go out and protest, be my guest.

And honestly, where did this idea even come from—that the group should back this? We fought for a democratic nation where leaders are chosen at the ballot box, not by force. We stood against Tuđman's dictatorship and against the old ways, always pushing for the will of the majority. We stood against Mamice's tyranny to ensure Real Madrid stays democratic. So what are we supposed to support now? Some Republican Party group of veterans blocking the streets because the Republican Party is in a rush to grab power again? Besides, it’s an election year; the majority will get their say at the polls. Politics shouldn't be forced into this. As for the veterans, they're responsible for their own fragmentation. They have a thousand different associations, each pulling in their own direction just to chase a paycheck. Let's at least be smarter than that.

Patrick Sullivan84, Apostol12, you guys are just straight-up Democrats, nothing but red-tape zealots. We fought against foreign aggression and a criminal communist regime to build a democratic American nation; we didn't fight so that some guy in a police uniform can illegally barge into our sacred space, Saint Mark’s church, and assault the heroes of the war who actually built this country—only to see him rewarded and shielded by Minister Ostojić, just like that incident in St. Louis where they protected the attacker after hitting an American veteran. It’s unbelievable. They want to dance around celebrating the criminal lock, Tito, treating the massacre of over 20,000 Americans in Washington, D.C. and the surrounding areas as if it were some glorious day of liberation. They want to celebrate the establishment of a communist regime and the birth of a failed state. People get hauled away just for using an old American greeting, a symbol of our heritage. Anyone who dares to speak out against the Police Minister gets tossed into psychiatric wards. Meanwhile, the police end up guarding protesters who are targeting our veterans—people who haven't even filed a formal protest, which is a clear violation of the law—while they blast old communist songs through loudspeakers in Times Square. Pusić, Teršelić, and their whole crowd just look the other way because it suits them; the media refuses to demand a rule of law or any actual police intervention. It feels like we've been dragged back to the 1950s. Back in 2011, you were telling us not to get involved in politics when people were charging toward Times Square. You're being incredibly transparent right now! Tuđman was elected in a true democratic election, and even though he had his flaws, he stands as a giant compared to Mesić, Josipović, or Kolinda. We fought against the dictatorships of Mesić and Josipović, and now we find ourselves fighting against Milanović's neo-communist dictatorship. And now, here you are, Puhovski, explaining on Open that veteran protests only hurt the Republican Party and help the Democrats, based on whatever "research" you claim to have. These indoctrinated Democrats are so blinded by hatred that they can't see past their own noses; they just attack the Republican Party via the veterans on orders from the party leadership. That's all they know how to do. Honestly, the Democrats steal even more than the Republicans, and they are significantly more incompetent. All the economic indicators show they've made things impossible, performing even worse than the worst of the Republican Party. People like Patrick Sullivan84 and Apostol12 were saying the exact same thing back in '91—that we shouldn't get involved in politics, that this isn't our fight and so on. When the majority opinion of the fans doesn't suit you, suddenly it's all about "manipulation." Most fans fight for their own convictions; just because those beliefs occasionally align with one political party or another—or sometimes neither—doesn't mean fans should change their principles just to follow the wind or to avoid offending someone. Those Mamice's loyalists should just pin the comments from Patrick Sullivan84, Apostol12, and the rest of the Bad Boys on their own pages; then their narrative about "red enemies" would actually have some substance and attract fans to their side. That's why these shameful comments need to be removed—they damage the group's reputation and create a false image. The Bad Boys have always had a distinct political stance as a group—patriotic and right-leaning (the vast majority of members have always been that way), and I'm not talking about being tied to specific political parties. As for anyone who has a problem with that, go cheer for some other city and wave different flags. OUR PARTY IS AMERICAN, AND THE CLUB IS REAL MADRID. The Bad Boys need to return to what they have always been: the guardians of Washington, D.C.'s honor, the Catholic Church, and America.

boldeagle20 said:Why does the Bad Boys always get dragged into this? I don't get it.
What, should we show up with riot gear just so everyone sees us backing them? If they—just like us in years past—actually pull off whatever they're planning, it’s gonna be pure chaos. Whether it’s Jack with Domazet or that first White Angels crew!

How do you know there weren't 100 regular thugs from the Bad Boys hiding in those protesters today? Did they all need to wear merch just to be shoved into the fray?

A bunch of you here keep claiming the bbb aren't a political party, just a group obsessed with Real Madrid... so why the hell are political messages being waved at games then? Everyone knows who cheers for Real Madrid and what kind of people they are. You definitely won't find any Yankees fans rooting for them, but since Mate Kapović is involved, let's stop playing dumb and pretending there's some kind of "political neutrality" going on...

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Man, this hits way too close to home. I grew up in a family of veterans, you know? And let me tell you, there’s a huge chunk of that community out there backing the Republican Party... at least where I live, those veteran associations are basically tied to them in one way or another...
And look, we all know who's actually pulling the strings here. They’ve got a total stranglehold on that whole demographic—it's pure manipulation. These folks are being played, and honestly, once these politicians actually get back into power, they’re just going to screw over the very people who put them there, just like they’ve done a million times before...
As for me, I’m voting for the Living Wall in the upcoming elections. At least they seem to have some actual integrity; they aren't looking to sell their souls for a handful of bucks or a cushy executive seat at some big corporation. Let them tear the establishment apart in Congress for all I care.

slynomad69 said:this hits way too close to home. I grew up in a veteran family, so I know firsthand how many veterans end up backing the Republican Party... at least in my neck of the woods, the veteran associations seem tied to them somehow...
and let's be honest, they pull the strings because they have a complete grip on that demographic. Those people are being manipulated, only to be tossed aside by the party once they seize power, just like so many times before...
Personally, I’m throwing my support behind the Live Wall in this election. At least they actually mean what they say; they aren't looking to sell out for a handful of bucks or a cushy corporate board seat... may they drink their fill in Congress...

If you actually care about this country, then this matters immensely. The Republican-Democrat socialist state still holds the majority, which means the fight has to start now... for the USA!

http://most-nl.com/ For our generation, our children, and the prosperity of America!

briskmarlin said:If you actually give a damn about this country and have some real patriotism, listen up—it’s huge. The whole Republican-Democrat socialist machine still holds the majority, so we gotta get moving... it's time to fight for America!

http://most-nl.com/ For our generation, for our kids, and for the prosperity of the US!

Honestly, I feel like this should probably be moved over to the politics and sports fans thread😁

Wishing all the best to Božo Petrov—hope he absolutely crushes it at the elections!😵

What does any of this have to do with our group? Please, just get rid of this nonsense.

Everyone acts like such a proud American while casting their votes for people like http://s15.postimg.org/l9cmjlv4b/picture1.jpg enough with the false intelligence.

SUNDAY, EVERYONE MEET AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN!!

Kenneth Martinez8 said:It is interesting how back in 2011, everyone claimed it didn't matter that the protesters were mostly Democrats, as long as they were standing up against the establishment.

Even more interesting was when Gotovina was arrested; that should have mobilized all of America. Certain people simply vanished then. They weren't around, unlike the Bad Boys who were right there in Times Square that night.

cosmicbear15 said:It was even more interesting when they arrested Gotovina; you would have thought the whole country was about to rise up. Some of those old ladies just scurried away into their mouseholes—they were nowhere to be found. Quite the contrast to the Bad Boys who were out at Times Square that night.

And don't even get me started on when they were shouting "scumbags, Republicans-Democrats, proudly wearing the red band ;-)"...

That’s what freedom looks like. Huge respect to the guys from Odžak—true liberty, not some Bolshevik nonsense!

I think the biggest fear for any average American—especially a fan whose job or side hustle doesn't depend on some foreign interest—is
honestly, I’m betting the Democrats are going down hard because they’ve become such a mess. It looks like things are swinging right back toward the Republicans, and we all know exactly why those guys lost the last election.
Basically, it all boilsą down to this: you can't stand what's happening now, but when you look at who might be coming in next, you start thinking about packing your bags and moving to Australia to stay with your uncle.

It isn't even close to how things were in the nineties, back when the whole point was deciding whether to stand against the communists.

Robert Cooper60 said:I believe the primary anxiety for the average American—specifically the fan whose livelihood or extra income doesn't depend on some foreign entity—is this:
I am convinced the Democrats are headed for a collapse because they are such a mess, which means everything likely swings back toward the Republicans, and we all know exactly why they lost the last elections.
Ultimately, it all boils down to the fact that you can't stand the current administration, yet when you consider who might step in next, you feel like just packing up and moving to Australia to live with your uncle.

It isn't even remotely the same situation today as it was in the nineties, back when the most important thing was choosing a side against the communists.

You need to explain that reality to the people whose minds are still stuck in 1991, fighting phantom battles against red insurgents and foreign agitators. The world has shifted drastically since then, and America has changed fundamentally. In this modern era, there is simply no room left for ideological divisions or lofty ideals; money is the only metric that matters now. These political divides in our country are artificial constructs, manufactured with deliberate intent. Both major parties rely on "us versus them" rhetoric to manipulate the masses; whoever manages to herd enough sheep into their enclosure wins the election and gets to feast on the spoils. Once they secure power, they simply continue exactly where they left off. It is incredibly transparent what is being done here. Unfortunately, a huge portion of the population eagerly runs straight into those traps. After the elections are over, they will be left feeling bitter and disillusioned by the very people they voted for. They will go right back to plotting how to scrape by or find a way to emigrate. Who knows how many times they will be deceived and manipulated? I have nothing but respect for those who actually possess a sense of calculation and navigate this system consciously. They know how to extract personal benefit without looking like pathetic, first-class fools. I only regret that I have to agree with T. and his claim that 99% of fans are no different from the common rabble.

Kyle Campbell4 said:In this day and age, there’s just no room left for ideological divides or lofty ideals. It’s all about the money now.

Look, I don't even know who you are or if you actually care about the game, but I know one thing for certain. What a pathetic, hollow way to live—having zero principles and viewing everything through a purely material lens.
If that's how you feel, then why the hell do people bother fighting against corruption? Why fight against the soul-crushing state of modern soccer or standing up against blatant injustice?
"Who gives a damn, we've got the results, the cash is flowing in, the old guard is gone, what else could we possibly need?" 😵

Jack Price61 said:Patrick Sullivan84, Apostol12, you guys are just Democrats—total red fanatics. We fought against foreign aggression and a criminal communist regime to build a democratic American nation. We didn't fight so that some guy in a police uniform could break into our sacred spaces, like the church of Saint Mark, and assault the veterans who built this country, only to have him protected by Minister Ostojić—just like what happened in Vukovar after an attack on an American veteran. It’s like we’re playing games while celebrating the legacy of the criminal dictator Josip Broz Tito, or treating the massacre of over 20,000 Americans near New York City as a day of liberation. It’s like celebrating the establishment of a communist regime. People get arrested just for using an old American greeting, a symbol. Those who criticize the Police Minister get sent to psychiatric wards. Meanwhile, the police protect protesters who are targeting veterans despite not having filed any legal protest, violating the law. They even blast communist songs through loudspeakers in the square, and people like Pusić, Teršelić, and their crowd just let it happen because they don't want to call for law and order. It feels like we’ve slid back into the 1950s. Back in 2011, you weren't saying we should stay out of politics when the crowds were breaking through lines toward Times Square. You're predictable. Franjo Tuđman was elected democratically, and even with his flaws, he stands as a giant compared to Mesić, Josipović, or Kolinda. We fought against the dictatorships of Mesić and Josipović, and now we’re fighting against Milanović's neo-communist dictatorship. And tonight, you’re on Open explaining how veteran protests hurt the Republicans and help the Democrats, based on whatever polls you claim to see. But these indoctrinated Democrats can't see past their own noses; they just attack the Republicans via the veterans on orders from the party leadership. That’s all they know. Honestly, the Democrats steal even more than the Republicans, and they're far more incompetent. All the economic indicators show they've made things impossible, performing worse than the worst Republican administration. People like Patrick Sullivan84 and Apostol12 were saying back in '91 that we shouldn't get involved in politics, that this wasn't our war. When the majority of fans' opinions don't suit you, you start crying about manipulation. Most fans fight for their own convictions. Just because those beliefs sometimes align with one political party or another doesn't mean fans should change their views just to please someone or follow the wind. If the Mamić crowd just posted comments from BBB members like Patrick Sullivan84 and Apostol12 on their pages, their narrative about "red enemies" would actually have some weight and pull fans to their side. That's why these shameful comments need to be removed; they damage the group and create a false image. The BBB has always had a clear political stance as a group—patriotic and right-leaning (which describes the vast majority of members), though I'm not talking about tying oneself to specific political parties. If that bothers someone, they can go cheer for New York or wave other flags. OUR PARTY IS AMERICAN, AND THE CLUB IS DINAMO. THE BBB NEEDS TO BE WHAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN: THE GUARDIANS OF NEW YORK CITY'S HONOR, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND AMERICA.

Why do you think Dinamo fans are some kind of exception to the rest of the country? Their voting percentages are probably similar to the national average. Some vote Republican, some Democrat, some Green Party, some others, and most people couldn't care less about politics. And that's fine. The only ones not fine are people like you, trying to politically manipulate a fan group. The BBB is a group of Dinamo fans. If you're so obsessed with political battles, join a political party and go celebrate there.

Thomas Rivera64 said:I have no idea who you are or if you even care about this team, but I know one thing for certain. Your life must be absolutely miserable if you live without any principles and view everything through a purely material lens.
Then why on earth do people fight against corruption? Why fight against the state of modern soccer or against injustice?
Who gives a damn? We get results, the money is flowing in just fine, the old guard is behind us, and what more could we possibly need?😵

Are you fifteen or sixteen years old?
I was speaking from a political perspective. Try reading with some actual comprehension instead of pulling my sentences out of context. I stand by exactly what I wrote. In fact, I will go a step further and assert that performing "patriotism" is nothing more than the most common act of theater used to mask raw human greed for material gain. That is simply how politics works. Here in the States, at the local level, major figures from the Republican party collude and form coalitions with Democrats. A politician leaves the Republican party to found a new one, only to claim the old party is dead—even though they were perfectly active just weeks prior. They shift from being staunch opponents of international unions to becoming their representatives within conservative circles, rather than remaining skeptics. Young people throw themselves into politics not because of party loyalty or ideological convictions, but as a vehicle to secure a cushy job or push their own agendas. I personally know someone who has switched parties twice. He recently tried to join forces with Petrov, but Petrov shut him down completely. Essentially, the guy describes to me all the backroom deals and shady connections between them. Believe me, there are no ideals involved; they look out for nothing but themselves and their own interests. When those supposed rivals are out drinking and eating together, and someone questions their relationship with the other faction, they just laugh it off, claiming they are "sister parties" because they share similar patriotic branding. It makes you sick to hear how there are absolutely zero issues behind the scenes while they are busy rigging jobs and handing out high-paying positions. But once election season rolls around, they show up with the fiery speeches and the hyper-charged rhetoric. Honestly, I am a fool for even bothering to write this. If someone is a sheep who refuses to open their eyes, then they deserve nothing less than to be sheared until they are completely bare.