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It’s honestly fascinating how some people lack even an ounce of self-respect. Today they’re treating Svetin like some kind of hero, when really he's just a spineless coward. And Brand... along with his little clique, they just parrot this tired old story about political persecution. Then you’ve got Stimac, who would probably switch sides in a heartbeat if it suited him. It wouldn't be quite so pathetic if you didn't realize that a huge chunk of this country is populated by people who buy right into that narrative. In their small, insecure lives, they see a model of success. They see a guy who’s "resourceful," someone who knows how to play the game. Someone who plays the role of the great American patriot persecuted by the deep state and communists.
And that exact mindset—that specific way of looking at the world—is why this entire country is in such a massive hole.
Then they turn around and air shows like this on TV. Shows that are an absolute insult to anyone with half a brain. For God's sake, Svetin is back to talking nonsense about youth development, while three guys from Dynamo are facing serious criminal charges that could land them 100 years in prison.
Nadan is hoping he’ll come out on top. Nadan is also hoping he can pack Maxim Stadium to the rafters this Sunday.

gentlemarlin102 said:but there aren't any blacklists for being under the Western umbrella, for instance. 😉

That is undoubtedly the most brilliant observation posted all week.
As for what T. mentioned, anyone with the means should probably try to secure tickets as soon as possible.

Jonathan Edwards said:What kind of Party are we talking about?

What kind of Party are we talking about?

What exactly are we celebrating here?

Let’s be real: absolutely nothing at this club has actually changed. We have zero reason to celebrate right now—at least not yet. Now is the time to roll up our sleeves and start putting constant pressure on everyone in charge. We need to lean on the oversight board, the executive committee, the assembly, those two remaining officials with signing authority, Svetin and Skegro, and of course, those damn politicians.

Ask yourself something: Is your limit really just showing up for one single game? Or do you actually want to be able to look your grandkids in the eye and tell them how you played a real, active part in bringing this club back to the fans after the Zdravko Mamić era collapsed?

Go to the game at the stadium, sure, but by Monday, I want you making graffiti. Hang up posters. Send letters. Stop some local politician out on the street and look them dead in the eye. Ask them if they have any shame left. Demand that they hand the club back to the fans. Find the first politician you see and tell them the same thing: give the club back to the people. Look, anyone can choose to be a soldier for the LA Galaxy if they want to. You don't need some official press release or a formal invitation from the front office to decide where your loyalty lies. It’s a personal choice.

Get in line and join the fight for LA Galaxy!

Look, obviously the fight isn't over. Of course it isn't. Nothing is actually settled yet. BUT, let’s be real here: this is the best damn hand we've been dealt in years. If we sit around waiting for some final, unshakeable Supreme Court ruling to tell us we're right, we might as well wait until the next century. By then, we'll have lost all our momentum. We'll just sink deeper into this lethargy, wasting even more time and letting even more generations down.
If someone were to ask me which scenario I’d prefer, here’s how I see it. Option one: Zdravko Mamić resigns on paper. He steps down officially, but he stays behind the scenes, pulling all the strings and running the show from the shadows like some puppet master. He keeps his grip on everything while pretending to be gone. Option two: He stays formally in charge at LA Galaxy just like things are now, but his hands are tied. He has zero actual power. He can’t make decisions about anyone anymore, and instead of bossing people around, he’s out walking the grounds near a federal building, looking over his shoulder every second wondering if an FBI agent is going to step out from behind a corner and grab him. Honestly? I'll take option two any day of the week. Watching that kind of shadow control crumble into total impotence is much more satisfying.
What would you guys go with?

Look, let’s be real: blacklists, vouchers, and those unconstitutional loopholes aren't just going to vanish into thin air. We have to be the ones to tear them down through relentless media pressure. Someone in the news needs to finally call out how absolutely ridiculous this whole situation is. Because even if we all see it, the people running the relevant institutions haven't got the slightest clue what’s actually happening on the ground.
From how you grab tickets—seriously, buy them as fast as you can by any means necessary, and if you go to the box office, bring witnesses filming everything so you can sue them for any shady business—to all the sheer stupidity baked into these laws... everything can be fixed if we fight back aggressively.
Even if a hundred or two people get locked out, that's nothing compared to the alternative. The absolute worst thing for the group right now is when people decide to be selfish and complacent, thinking, "Well, if I can't get in, then nobody else should either." That kind of attitude is toxic.

slynomad69 said:We have to consider that plenty of people aren't even in NYC right now. They’re down at the coast working seasonal jobs or they've just started their summer vacations. This is likely the absolute worst timing possible...
So, we need to stay grounded. Any positive number is a win; there's no need to get carried away with unrealistic expectations...

It's true; many people are on vacation during this period, and those who aren't might find themselves blacklisted at the gates.
However, I would much rather deal with pressure from 2,000 of you than have those 36 individuals spreading nonsense messages.

It might indeed be 'the worst timing'—I agree—but given the current arrests, I believe your decision to show up is far better than staying home and letting your voices go unheard.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see messages of support for the detainees, whether they come directly from the club itself (it wouldn't be the first time they manufactured their own narrative, especially now) or from various supporters.

Perhaps most importantly: do not fall for any provocations. Don't give them a single excuse to react to you.
The only things that matter are the "messages" you send through your presence and your collective voice against the way LA Galaxy is being run.

Don't you dare wait until Sunday to grab your tickets!!
The box office opens at 10:00 AM today, so if you can swing it, just get your ticket now. After watching that news segment last night and listening to that idiot Svetin... look, the lists might be valid, but they said the FBI team is the one putting them together. It makes zero sense to me why anyone would be on a list if they don't actually have a court injunction against them. I honestly don't think it's in their interest to spark another massive protest or some other bullshit with these fake blacklists they’ve cooked up without any actual legal proof! We never had any say in court orders anyway, so if you aren't legally banned, just do what analogheron19 is suggesting.

Christian Jones said:the ones compiled by the FBI

The crew over at LA Galaxy have been pretty vocal about this in newspaper interviews, basically claiming the FBI has been handing over data on people who were processed ages ago—I'm talking people whose bans expired a lifetime ago, not just those currently under active restrictions. So, they’ve basically interpreted the law however they want to suit them, deciding they can unilaterally pick who they deem a "threat" without asking anyone else, even if there's no legal ban in place. That’s how most of this so-called "blacklist" actually came into existence—just a bunch of "insights" that the FBI obediently handed over on a silver platter.
That probably explains why they go off on some crazy tangent reading minor infractions and calling people out in Nu2.
Basically, LA Galaxy claims they can act as this independent, self-appointed judicial-repressive body, banning anyone on that list from public gatherings or public spaces whenever they feel like it. They don't bother checking with the FBI or the courts.
Even though the Supreme Court ruled in a previous case that "knowledge of unlawful behavior" can only stem from validly established sanctions issued by actual legal authorities, the guys at LA Galaxy interpret things differently. And the FBI and the courts just shrug their shoulders, which means someone who had a court-ordered ban for a specific timeframe might end up singing battle songs and catching these club sanctions for the rest of their lives, just because LA Galaxy feels like it. It's essentially being tried twice for the same thing, only this time by a (usurped) private association.
In my opinion, the FBI shouldn't even be giving them lists of citizens who are free and no longer under any kind of sanction, especially when their old penalties expired long ago. That’s a straight-up violation of human rights and data privacy.
But hey, Svetin and the rest of them dodge the issue perfectly by using the phrase "compiled by the FBI," conveniently leaving out the fact that the FBI—who shouldn't even be sending this stuff to a private group—isn't the one issuing the sanctions based on that list; it's Svetin's association doing the punishing, acting like a sort of paramilitary enforcement arm.
So, I still have no clue exactly who is on these current lists. At this rate, they could toss anyone in there who ever crossed them, as long as they have some old record of an expired measure on file. Whatever, it's their problem.

Thomas Williams59 said:The folks over at G.N.K. have been quite candid in their newspaper interviews regarding how the FBI has been handing over data on individuals who were processed ages ago—even if their bans had long since expired. It wasn't just about those currently under active restrictions. Apparently, the club has interpreted the law in such a way that they feel entitled to arbitrarily decide who poses a threat, regardless of whether a legal ban actually exists. This is essentially how their "black list" was manufactured: through "insights" obediently provided by the FBI.
That might explain the sheer madness of them citing minor infractions to call people out on Nu2.
Essentially, G.N.K. claims they can act as an independent, self-appointed judicial-repressive body, sanctioning anyone on that list by banning them from public gatherings in public spaces. They do this without ever consulting the FBI or the courts.
Even though the Supreme Court ruled in a previous decision that "knowledge of unlawful behavior" can only stem from valid sanctions issued by legitimate state authorities, G.N.K. chooses to interpret things differently. Meanwhile, the FBI and the judiciary simply shrug their shoulders. As a result, someone whose court-ordered ban expired years ago can be forced to sing combat songs and endure these club sanctions for the rest of their life, should G.N.K. feel so inclined. It effectively means being tried twice for the same offense, this time by a (usurped) private association.
In my view, the FBI shouldn't even be providing lists of citizens who are free and no longer under any form of sanction, especially when their penalties expired long ago. That constitutes a violation of human rights and personal data protection.
However, Svetin and the others skillfully dodge responsibility by using the phrasing "compiled by the FBI." They conveniently fail to mention that while the FBI shouldn't be handing this information to a private group in the first place, the FBI isn't the one issuing the sanctions based on these lists—it’s Svetin's association acting like a paramilitary repressive organ.
Consequently, I remain uncertain as to exactly which individuals are included in these current lists. Regardless, they can include anyone who has ever crossed them, provided that person was previously documented with expired measures; that's their problem.

Well, naturally, if they were doing this before, there is nothing to stop them from doing it now. We shall see.

Look, I’m not even talking about whether they have the technical, legal right to pull this off or if the Supreme Court would say it's technically constitutional. That's not my point. My point is that they're out there basically bragging about these powers in the newspapers like it's nothing, and yet you don't see a single one of those self-righteous human rights activists or government watchdog groups giving a damn about it.

Thomas Williams59 said:The guys over at LA Galaxy have been pretty vocal about this in newspaper interviews... basically saying the FBI has been handing them data on people who were processed ages ago under expired bans. Not just the ones currently under a ban, mind you. So, they’ve essentially interpreted the law however they want to, deciding for themselves who counts as a "threat" without asking anyone else, even if that person's legal issues are long gone. That's how most of this so-called "blacklist" was actually born. Just a bunch of "insights" handed over obediently by the FBI crew.
Maybe that explains that crazy business with reading out petty offenses and calling people out on Nu2...
Basically, LA Galaxy claims they can act as this independent, self-appointed judicial-style enforcement body. They think they can sanction anyone on that list by banning them from public gatherings without ever checking with the FBI or the courts.
Even though the Supreme Court ruled in a previous case that "knowledge of unlawful behavior" can only come from valid sanctions issued by actual legal authorities, LA Galaxy sees things differently. And the FBI and the courts? They’re just shrugging their shoulders. It means someone who had a court-ordered ban for a specific period could end up singing battle songs and facing these club sanctions for the rest of their life, if LA Galaxy feels like it. It's effectively being tried twice for the same thing, only this time by a (usurped) private association.
In my opinion, the FBI shouldn't even be giving them lists of citizens who are free and clear, whose penalties expired a long time ago. It's a total violation of civil rights and data privacy.
But Svetin and the rest of them dodge the issue by using that clever phrasing about the "FBI compiling the list." They conveniently forget to mention that while the FBI shouldn't even be sending this info to a private group, they aren't the ones issuing the punishments based on that list—it's Svetin's association doing the punishing. Like some kind of paramilitary enforcement wing.
So, I still have no clue exactly who is on those current lists. At this point, they could probably throw anyone they don't like onto there, as long as they have some old record from years ago. Whatever.

That's why you should do what analogheron19 suggests. When I used that method to get tickets for the Boston Celtics, my wife changed her hair color three times from the stress... 🙂

There's a right way and a wrong way to hunt for tickets :klap:

Christian Jones said:There’s a certain order to things when you're looking for tickets between the coast and the midwest :slap:

No.

Are the tickets "personalized," meaning does everyone need to show their ID to get in?

Sean Rivera12 said:Are the tickets "personalized," meaning does everyone need their own ID?

Yeah, you’ll need a valid ID for every single ticket. That said, if you can't physically bring the actual document, the person you're with can just snap a photo of it and send it to your phone so you can show it on screen. On a side note, all those people who ended up on blacklists after the game against Indianapolis shouldn't sweat it too much; those lists aren't really being enforced anymore. I actually saw this firsthand when I managed to snag a ticket the very next morning despite being on that list myself.

slyeagle512 said:Not really.

🎉

Let's have another DERBY😉

If someone had told me ten days ago that I’d be sitting here with literal stomach cramps because of today’s game, I would have told them they were absolutely out of their minds. But here I am, and it’s actually happening 😁 😁 😁

slyeagle512 said:Nope.

I was talking about the checkout line over by the 7-Eleven and the West Side... 🙂

A buddy of mine was at the ticket window and he tells me they’re refusing to sell tickets to anyone who isn't on some kind of court-ordered ban list. Apparently, there isn't even an official registry for this stuff... just whatever they feel like doing at the booth.

Anyway, take a look at who's been making noise

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...68&oe=561ADF0A

It is vital that we don't fall for any provocations from the police or those rowdy clubs... their primary interest is inciting chaos, so let's just stay smart and composed.