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Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I’ve noticed that there isn't a single thread like this one on this entire forum. So, here we are—whether this serves as a starting point for a debate or just a way to dissect a specific case, I suppose. Even when you stumble upon a real-world example, it immediately serves as a reminder that we are living in a complete circus. While plenty of people refuse to admit it, the harsh reality remains that when you add everything up, America is nothing more than a total clown show.

So, what’s even worth saying at this point? It feels like there isn't a single decent cycling program on American television, if you look at how the mainstream media handles it. As far back as I can remember, we’ve never actually had a high-quality show dedicated to cycling here in the States. When I talk about a good cycling program, I mean something that actually offers practical advice and real-world examples to help out riders who are still learning the ropes. If you have a show that claims to be about cycling, but it’s really just a collection of random race news interrupted by endless commercials—where the only "advice" you get is a pitch for some supplement or nothing at all—then you can't honestly call that a cycling show. A mix of minimal news and heavy advertising isn't serious programming; it’s just garbage.

Calling PBS a public broadcaster is a bit of a joke, though there’s really no point in wasting my energy arguing about it because you'll just end up frustrated for nothing. It’s enough to look at one specific issue, even if it has nothing to do with cycling, to see the pattern. In an era defined by information technology, where having basic digital literacy is practically mandatory, it’s telling that PBS shows absolutely zero interest in producing any kind of tech-focused programming. Once you realize that, it becomes painfully obvious where cycling fits into the hierarchy; it’s relegated to the bottom of the pile on a quasi-public station that functions more like a government-run corporation, and we all know exactly how those state-run entities operate. Beyond that, we have a handful of other minor players in the market—things like YouTube (which used to be Fox), some local news stations, or CNN—that basically cover the metro area. When you look at the rest of the country, you see countless small, local stations that are barely scraping by as it is. Given the lack of funding, you can't honestly expect any of these smaller local outfits to produce high-quality cycling shows, or anything of substance for that matter.

When it comes to the commercial networks around here—specifically FOX, FOX Sports, and the big mainstream channels—you really shouldn't expect any high-quality cycling programming. They simply do whatever serves their bottom line, pushing whatever content generates the most profit. You’ll find educational shows featuring actual useful advice on these stations only in extremely rare instances, if they even exist at all. So, my final takeaway is pretty simple: when it comes to cycling and related topics, traditional American television media scores exactly zero points.

Given how pervasive and powerful the internet has become as a medium, you’d think the digital landscape here in America would be more advanced or useful. Unfortunately, that's far from the reality, as much of what you find is just a flood of aggressive advertising and other mindless nonsense. Even when you dig deeper, there is a distinct lack of actual, practical advice or any clear, precise recommendations, especially when it comes to properly securing a bike against theft.

To kick things off, here is a prime example of how absolutely not to produce a segment on cycling issues; at this point, it’s less tragic and more just plain ridiculous. I’m talking about a recording from a local news station broadcast back on July 16, 2013. This particular segment was part of a two-and-a-half-hour block called Z1 Zoom, which covered various topics as any typical summer afternoon program would. However, they carved out nearly twenty minutes specifically to debate the massive issue of bike theft. If you actually sit down and watch the show—or even just look at its underlying concept and the way the guests were handled—it is enough to make you lose your mind. Honestly, what possible value could an uninformed viewer get out of this? When you weigh everything up, the whole thing was a complete and utter disaster. Below is a list of the most glaring blunders and sheer nonsense featured in this segment dedicated to bike theft. So, there you have it: twenty minutes of airtime wasted on the serious problem of stolen bikes.Aside from a fair amount of mindless, aimless rambling, that show didn't actually offer a single piece of precise or practical advice that you could actually use..😉

I just watched this video on YouTube, and honestly, there isn't much to add beyond the fact that it hits on some pretty fundamental points. It’s straightforward, though I suspect some people might find the delivery a bit blunt. Still, it lays out the situation clearly enough for anyone actually paying attention.

1. What kind of bike lock should you absolutely avoid using if you actually want to keep your ride? Everyone’s just sitting there in total silence like they’ve got nothing to say, even though I’m sure the guests realize exactly how easy and fast it is to snatch a bike that's only secured with a cable lock. To be honest, nobody on that show even bothered to mention cable locks; they just spent the whole time rambling about phantom codes and padlocks without offering a single concrete answer or a real explanation.

2. What kind of bike lock should people actually be using? I mean, you really need to mention a specific example of protection—like an actual model or something. And once again, nobody is saying a single word about cables or chains. It’s completely silent on the subject. As for the U-Lock, I can only assume people think we're talking about some kind of handheld massager.

3. The show didn't even bother providing any actual bike locks as visual aids, which means an uninformed viewer is left completely guessing about what gear looks like, what’s worth buying, and what’s just a waste of money. Now, some people might argue that they can't explicitly advertise certain brands, but honestly, that’s a non-issue; you could easily just cover up a company logo with some tape and call it a day. Whoever produced or organized this segment clearly had no idea how to run a program like this, where the whole point should be helping the average person by offering precise, practical advice. It would have been much smarter if they had spent their time actually preparing something useful instead of just producing a foggy, half-baked mess.

They’ve got this girl on the show complaining about how someone swiped her bike because she didn't bother to lock it, which is just great. Then, the same girl claims a friend of hers had a bike stolen right in front of a coffee shop—she basically just sat down for a drink and when she looked up, the bike was gone, amazing. The only thing she mentions is using a U-Lock, though she also says her friend had a bike snatched right off a balcony within two hours despite it being secured with both a U-Lock and a chain, and I’d bet anything on it. $1667 That bike wasn't secured with a U-Lock or chained to a metal fence, which should have been an immediate giveaway to any casual observer. To someone who doesn't know better, it’s obvious that even using a U-Lock—though nobody bothered to explain what one actually is or what it looks like, unless you think it's some kind of vibrator—doesn't offer much in terms of real protection. From the perspective of an uninformed onlooker or a potential buyer, seeing those two vague mentions of some strange, unknown "U-Lock" just makes it clear the security was subpar.

One guest claims that people around town are just riding cheap bikes that aren't worth much. $333, Look, we all know they’re cutting corners behind the scenes, so let's not pretend otherwise. If you're trying to conclude that a bike is actually cheap, maybe you should start by looking at whether the cable is even worth anything. $50 Or maybe just go with a U-Lock—if you even know what that actually is? $40 And yet, there isn't a single response in sight.

Some clumsy guy from the mobile bike repair service just told me something incredibly stupid. Every single combination can be cracked eventually; it’s really just a matter of how much time someone is willing to sit there and grind through it. At the end of the day, any lock is vulnerable if you give them enough time to figure out the right method. What exactly was the poet trying to convey with that "scorching sun" line? Honestly, I can't wrap my head around how that bit of poetic flair is supposed to provide any actual value to an uninformed viewer watching the broadcast.

The moderator keeps asking what exactly we can even protect, but when it comes to providing a straight answer or a precise recommendation for a specific bike lock model, everyone just stays dead silent.

Some clumsy guest in a white shirt—who happens to be a Department of Justice employee, an absolute expert if you believe that, apparently—says exactly this, or at least this is what the transcript shows: Security basically boils down to categories. You have protection that lasts a few minutes, then ten minutes, and then more. When we talk about home security, we usually deal with three distinct levels: no protection at all, something that buys you ten minutes, and then the high-end stuff used in professional offices—though I have no idea what kind of offices those would be these days. It’s the exact same logic for bicycles. There is plenty of high-quality protection out there, specifically systems using heavy metal plates. These aren't easily cut with bolt cutters or filed down; sure, someone could do it if they were willing to put in the time, but most people hitting a public space aren't looking to work that hard. Essentially, if people are going to steal vehicles, they're going to target spots where there isn't a Master Lock or an alarm system in place. For crying out loud, what was that poet actually trying to say?

9. The host asks how much extra cash someone should really shell out for decent bike security. Some clumsy guy from a mobile repair service answers her by saying, "Well, you're looking at somewhere from about $67 up to maybe 500-$200 for those better locks we'll just call the 'secure' ones." Fine, so apparently I can just buy a cheap cable lock for $100, wrap it around my $1667 bike, and call it a day—suddenly I've got a perfectly secured ride. Bottom line is, an uninformed viewer has absolutely no clue what to actually buy, which is the worst part; honestly, instead of making this show, they should have gone fishing for sturgeon in the Mississippi. In the end, an uneducated customer or viewer is probably just going to grab a cable lock for $67 because, well, what else? A cable is easy to use, and if a U-Lock—which sounds more like a toy than a tool—is actually supposed to be for bikes, then it's probably too expensive and impractical, which explains why they barely even mentioned it on the program.

10. To wrap things up, some Department of Justice official in a white button-down says, "I would recommend that citizens don't be so afraid; don't take this as a sign that you need to sell your bikes just to afford high-quality protection." But how is anyone supposed to secure their bikes properly if you haven't provided a single concrete or precise recommendation—other than that vague suggestion to spend 200-$200 without ever specifying an actual model of lock???
northerncyclist2 northerncyclist2 Active Member
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#2 ·
I probably won't get you very far with this post, but hey, at least you managed to give me a good laugh 😂

Thanks
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
northerncyclist2 said:You probably won't achieve much with this post, but you did manage to give me a good laugh at the very least😂

Thanks

What is there actually to achieve here, I suppose,😁 besides making sure as many people as possible see just how nonsensical a completely misguided show like this can be.

After all, this is the largest American forum, isn't it, so it wouldn't be surprising if some folks from the Department of Justice prevention department decided to drop by the cycling group section. Maybe they should see who they sent to represent them on a certain program and hear what people actually think of his performance. The same could be said for this gentleman coming in from the bike repair shop. Given that he clearly knows where the core issue lies and why bikes get stolen in 95% of cases, his appearance on this show could honestly be considered an embarrassment. He failed to provide a single precise or concrete answer that would allow an uninformed viewer to immediately understand the reality of the situation. I've mentioned this plenty of times before; it is simply incredible and shameful that absolutely no one is willing to speak the plain truth publicly. In practice, things are quite simple: first, you have to tell the truth, and second, you need to show people what various cables and cheap chains actually look like.

"Don't use cables and cheap chains to lock your bikes, because if you do, beware, your bike could be stolen very quickly and easily"

As I've already stated, it's incredibly pathetic, but in the end, it becomes quite funny when you broaden the scope a bit and highlight the nonsense all the guests were rambling about during this broadcast.

When you listen to what this Mr. Podrug is saying—a police officer from their "prevention department"—it’s enough to make you die laughing. Instead of giving clear and precise answers, he just hits everything in sight without offering anything concrete regarding bike security. What does mentioning certain offices have to do with protecting a bike? And bringing up a Master Lock system designed for cars or car alarms has absolutely nothing to do with bicycle security. This specific quote is particularly mind-boggling to me; the way he phrased it was so misguided that the average uninformed viewer wouldn't have the slightest clue what he was talking about. Well, I suppose those are "strong metals"😵(though which metals are we talking about—copper, brass, aluminum, or heaven forbid steel?), and since metals are generally strong, to an uninformed, average viewer, that's just how it sounds. Let's not derail the conversation into a lecture on metallurgy; the guy blurted out something stupid and went on living his life, while the viewer didn't receive a single concrete or precise answer regarding bike protection.

"those are strong metals that cannot be cut easily with shears or filed down so easily"

Considering this individual works in the Department of Justice prevention department, it is deeply unfortunate; my sympathies go out to that department if more incompetent people like him are working there. A department like that shouldn't be staffed by people who provide such utterly confusing answers to simple questions. But given the current state of affairs in our country, we know how the DOJ prevention department operates, and it's consistently poor.

Regarding prevention for the massive problem of bike theft, the DOJ prevention department has certainly failed miserably.😉
northerncyclist2 northerncyclist2 Active Member
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#4 ·
Yeah, honestly, the whole situation is pretty depressing. But hey, at least on this forum, which I know a ton of people follow, you can actually get some solid, reliable info thanks to you and everyone else who takes the time to break down what's really going on in a way that actually makes sense.

And well, people are just people, I guess—some listen to advice, while others just insist on doing things their own way until their bike gets swiped for the first time. And then there are those who stay stubborn even after that happens. Plus, there’s always those folks whose whole goal is just to spread misinformation for their own benefit, or they just like acting like they know everything when they really don't.
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
northerncyclist2 said:Yeah, the situation is pretty grim. But hey, at least on this forum, which a massive crowd of people actually reads, you can get accurate and high-quality information, thanks to you and others who make an effort to explain the actual state of affairs in a way that makes sense.

And look, people are people—some will listen to advice, while others will just keep doing things their own way until their bike gets snatched for the first time. Some stay stubborn even after that happens. Then there are always those whose sole purpose is to spread misinformation for personal gain, or they just want to act smart when they really aren't.

When a few individuals try to help, that’s one thing,😁 but what is our Police Department even for, and who pays for them—us or some random Klingons out there? As far as I know, it's their job to handle these matters, specifically through prevention and education. They should be teaching how and in what way you ought to lock a bike, and what kind of gear you need for high-quality, secure locking. To that end, they should be running promotional campaigns and producing video segments to be aired on public television to show how things should work in practice. But here we are in America, a total circus, so I guess you can't do anything except stay quiet and endure all this nonsense.

If anyone happens to be interested,😁 here is what the Department of Justice prevention department does and the kind of recommendations they have regarding bike security. This is essentially what they suggest for protecting a bike; I've intentionally bolded or highlighted certain parts.

I honestly wonder who drafted this text; good grief, what on earth is a "protective chain" versus what they call a "cheap children's chain"? I don't think I've ever heard of "children's chains" for bikes before; am I supposed to walk into a shop and ask for a kid's bike chain?

To top it off, they say you shouldn't use cheap chains or padlocks with four-digit combinations. Now we get to the important part: whether you believe them or not, they actually recommend using a steel or coiled cable with a lock.🤔

As for this part about "locking the lock to the spokes, if you have one"—I won't even bother commenting on that because it's truly nonsensical.😵

And what about a U-Lock? It's like it isn't even mentioned, as if it doesn't exist. So, this is our Police Department and their "preventative" advice.😢

http://www.mup.gov/main.aspx?id=131128

• write down the parts and components, and if you have a front suspension fork, include its serial number (since that counts for something)

• it's a good idea to take photos of the bike, and you should keep your receipt as long as the bike is in use

• lock the bike with a protective chain; don't use 'childish,' cheap chains or padlocks with four-digit combinations that thieves can easily pick or break, but rather use a coiled or steel cable with a lock

• also lock the lock to the spokes, if you have one

• if you aren't near a designated bike parking area, you can tie your two-wheeled vehicle to a tree or a sturdy metal object like a pole or a fence. However, it is important to have a long enough cable so you can loop it through several points on the bike (through the wheels and the frame)

• try not to park your bike in the exact same spot every single day

• avoid leaving any tools sitting in your saddlebags, as they often end up being quite useful to a thief

• don't leave your bike unattended in highly visible or easy-to-access areas, particularly after dark

• make sure to lock the building entrance or the gate where you store your bike, regardless of how long you’ll be away or if you check on it frequently

• steer clear of buying cheap bikes from unauthorized or questionable private sellers

• remember to talk to your kids about this issue and teach them how to be responsible with their own gear

• if your bike does get stolen, report it to your local police station immediately, providing the exact location, a full description, and any identifying details like serial numbers or service stickers

• it is ultimately our responsibility to protect our property, and by doing so, we set a standard for everyone else in the neighborhood to break their bad habits

• if we don't take even a second to secure our ride, we might find ourselves asking the bitter question: "Where did my bike go?"
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
How the Department of Justice prevention department actually operates,😵 and what kind of bike security they actually suggest—that’s what we’ve been looking at. Now, here is a completely different perspective, where the police in a functional, well-ordered country recommend bike locks based on actual reality and current trends.

In this specific case, we're looking at the German police, specifically the official website for the Bremen Police Department, which serves as an excellent example. As you can clearly see, they don't even mention cable locks, let alone chains—the idea of "locking a bike" with those is honestly laughable. Instead, they strictly recommend using a U-Lock to prevent theft, specifically pointing toward several models that carry the Underwriters Laboratories label. For context, Underwriters Laboratories is a German institution that specializes in product safety testing, which includes the hardware used to secure bicycles. The first link is the original German version, and the second provides an English translation.🙂

http://www.polizei.bremen.de/sixcms/...en09.c.7002.de

https://tinyurl.com/kx6wjx5
Kenneth Reed7 Kenneth Reed7 Newcomer
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#7 ·
On Friday, June 6th, part of the Tour de France organized by the cyclist union will dive deep into this very topic.

At 10:00 AM, head over to the Student Union on Savska Road for a panel discussion focused on preventing and fighting bike theft.

Friday, June 6, 2014 // 10:00-11:30

Description: Bike theft is a massive headache for everyone—new riders, veterans, and former cyclists alike. This panel is all about prevention and tackling this plague head-on. We’ll be chatting with local and international experts to get the full scoop.

Speakers:
Daniel Sascko, Cycling Registry, USA
The Cycling Registry was born from a simple idea shared by two friends and huge cycling enthusiasts: they wanted to help the riding community fight back against theft. Realizing there was zero national database for bikes, John and Daniel kicked off the creation of the registry in the spring of 2013. They made sure the registry would be online, accessible to everyone at any time, and constantly updated.

Marijan Podrug, Prevention Department, Chicago Police Department, USA

Tadej Brezin, Austria
Tadej Brezin is a research fellow and PhD candidate at the transportation research center within the TU Wien Institute of Transport. As a civil engineering master from TU Wien, his research focuses on public transit, cycling infrastructure, transportation, urban structures, and overall socio-technological systems, specifically regarding traffic flow.

Wolter and Riele, Netherlands, Dutch cycling embassy
Wolter and Riele are joining us representing the Dutch cycling embassy. He is an expert in developing public sector institutions and crafting strategies and public policy, particularly in spatial planning, transit, and major infrastructure projects. He even helped develop the Rotterdam urban mobility plan and led a project for the Ministry of Economic Affairs to improve cities through business initiatives aimed at beautifying neighborhoods. He’ll be sharing the experiences and strategies the Dutch have used over the decades to encourage cycling and combat bike theft.

Free admission!

Check out the full program details at www.pedalafest.eu
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#8 ·
Kenneth Reed7 said:On Friday, June 6th, the Tour de France organized by the cycling group will be taking place. The cyclist union actually includes this topic as part of their core programming.

There’s a panel discussion happening at 10:00 AM over at the student union on Savska Road regarding bike theft prevention and how to actually fight back against it.

Friday, June 6, 2014 // 10:00 AM - 11:30 AM

Bike theft is one of those persistent headaches that plagues everyone from the weekend warrior to the daily commuter and even those who’ve hung up their jerseys for good. This panel is dedicated to tackling that plague head-on through effective prevention and smarter enforcement. We’ll be sitting down with a range of local and international experts to break down how we can actually fight back.


They say:
Daniel Sascko, cycling registry, America
The cycling registry was born from a simple desire shared by two friends and massive cycling enthusiasts to help the local community combat the rising number of bike thefts. Noticing there was absolutely no national database to track stolen property, John and Daniel decided to launch a digital registry back in the spring of 2013. They agreed from the start that the registry should be an open, web-based resource available to everyone at any time, and one that gets updated on a daily basis.

Marijan Podrug from the prevention department at the Chicago Police Department in America.

Tadej Brezin, Austria
Tadej Brezin is a junior researcher and PhD candidate at the transportation research center within the TU Wien Institute of Transport. As a graduate in civil engineering from TU Wien, his work focuses on public transit, cycling infrastructure, general transportation, and urban frameworks, specifically looking at how socio-technological systems function within the realm of mobility.

Wolter and Riele from the Dutch cycling embassy in the Netherlands.
Wolter and Riele are headed our way representing the Dutch cycling embassy. They are heavy hitters when it comes to developing public sector institutions and crafting high-level strategies and policies, specifically regarding spatial planning, transit, and massive infrastructure projects. Their resume includes work on the Rotterdam urban mobility plan, and they even spearheaded a project for the Ministry of Economic Affairs focused on revitalizing cities through business initiatives aimed at neighborhood beautification. They’ll be diving into the specific experiences and strategies that Americans have used over the decades to promote cycling and tackle the persistent issue of bike theft.

Entry is free.

Details of the program can be found on... www.tourdedefrance.com


If you’re part of the cyclist union, then I guess it’s fine.😁 As far as bicycle theft goes and actually providing decent protection against it, your association is clearly doing a pretty lousy job.Look, why don't you just explain to me exactly why you—and honestly, pretty much every other online cycling outlet out there—refuse to actually step up and do something like this? I don't see where the problem lies. To avoid repeating myself, I'll just quote my own previous post from the link below.As I see it, your website doesn't even feature a dedicated section offering advice on how to properly secure a bike against theft. Please don't try telling me that such a thing is difficult to implement, or suggest that it perhaps doesn't belong on your site at all; if that's the case, then I have to ask why it's missing and where exactly the issue lies.🤔

The cyclist union should really consider taking this suggestion and putting it right on their homepage."Warning: Stop using cable locks to secure your bike, because if you do, your bike can be stolen incredibly easily and quickly."Place a video like the one below right under that warning, and then everything becomes crystal clear—either it's obvious, or perhaps you think there's still some sort of dilemma involved here? As for how that warning should actually look in practice, I'll leave that to your web designers; something like that is quite easy to put together. Given the massive issue with bike theft in America, we need as many warnings like this as possible. Until you implement something similar, I won't consider you a serious organization, just another highly unprofessional outfit (of which there are plenty in America), so whoever wants to get angry can go ahead; I couldn't care less, as there's already enough nonsense in this country. We need to speak plainly about how things are for the benefit of cyclists, so people know exactly what they should never use to lock up their bikes.

http://youtu.be/2l5fow3qIWU

Regarding the Department of Justice prevention department,😁 and Mr. Podrug in the first post of this thread, we saw perfectly well how he handles prevention on a certain television station. Here are two slightly more recent online recommendations from the DOJ regarding how to properly protect a bike from theft and what tools to actually use. These two articles date back to August 19, 2013, and the second to August 30, 2013, but nothing has changed; everything is exactly as it was before.😵🙂

As for our famous cycling registry, or Bicreg, the guys deserve nothing but praise for a job well done, certainly. The only practical problem is this: after registering a bike, most owners don't bother putting the BicReg stickers on their bikes, even expensive ones like a $10.

When some thief looks for a bike to steal, seeing a BicReg sticker isn't going to physically stop him from taking it. However, when he sees that sticker, he will realize two things: the bike is registered along with its frame number in the database, which makes selling the entire bike extremely difficult. An informed buyer of such a registered bike simply needs to enter the frame number into BicReg and they will immediately know whether the bike was stolen or not, and that's that.☕
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
So, our usual batch of law enforcement is sticking to their old ways, recycling those same outdated and completely useless recommendations regarding bike security.😵

To top it all off, here’s a fresh article,😁 if you can even call it that. It is honestly staggering how much some people lack basic practical knowledge; it’s just pure nonsense. Večernji list acts as the authority in this video trying to explain things, but they clearly haven't the slightest clue about the fundamental concepts they are blathering on about.

As far as I recall, I have never heard anyone claim that a U-Lock is made out of some kind of hollow tubing.The folks over at Večernji list, it would have been much better if you hadn't published an article like this at all because it truly makes zero sense. Either produce something that actually belongs in print, or just quit while you're ahead, because this article and video look like they were put together by drunks.🙂

- A tube, which is typically round with a hole through the middle.

- A rod or bar, which has no hole in the middle, so in layman's terms, it's solid material.


So, Večernji list, acting as the author here, basically concluded that if something on a U-Lock is round, then logically, it must be a tube.🙏😂
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#10 ·
Here is yet another example of how miserably little attention is given to critical cycling issues here in America. We are talking about bike theft protection again, or more specifically, a very brief and somewhat messy segment produced by Fox. This little clip lasts less than two minutes, so they certainly didn't devote much time to such an important issue.😵

When you look at the big picture, Fox did a pretty poor job with this report. If they had actually taken the subject seriously, they could have found much higher quality information online in no time. Only if they gathered accurate data could they have produced—and then presented—a decent segment like this.

I really have to wonder what the point of those losers in that already useless "cyclist union" is.😁Based on what their member demonstrated, the guy doesn't even know how to properly secure a bike with a U-Lock. It is an absolute absurdity, but I suppose you can't expect anything else. If you are going to be sharing advice on television, you should at least demonstrate the best, most optimal way to use a U-Lock.

Mr. Vladimir, take note of the golden rule:🙂 whenever possible, use the U-Lock to secure the rear wheel plus some part of the frame to a metal object. A bike's front wheel is always significantly cheaper and less attractive for a thief compared to the rear wheel. The financial hit is simply not the same if a thief grabs just the front wheel versus the rear. That is precisely why you always lock the rear wheel and frame first; it is basic logic that has been standard practice for ages..😉

Vladimir Kalgota - Cyclist Union, improper U-Lock usage

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This is an example of how to properly use a U-Lock.

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casualotter15 casualotter15 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Look, if you actually have a vision for how to change things—if you truly know what the endgame looks like and what steps it takes to get there—then instead of just spinning your wheels and shouting into the void, why don't you actually *do* something about it? Instead of assuming you know what everyone else is thinking and trying to force your own personal manifesto onto them—basically projecting your internal monologue onto the rest of us—you should probably take some real action.

For example, let's say I read about some "Railroad Association." I could spend my entire life sending endless emails to them complaining that a ticket to some tiny town is way too expensive. But here’s the thing: that association might not even have the authority or the capacity to mess with ticket prices. Their whole purpose might be gathering small unions together to gain leverage in collective bargaining agreements (okay, I'm making that part up just to make a point, don't hold me to it, but you get the gist). I can sit here and get pissed off at them about pricing all day, but really, the whole mess started with me—my own assumptions and my own idea of how things "should" work.

When someone actually has an idea, they find like-minded people, get organized, and make sure they get enough media coverage to actually matter. So, what exactly is stopping you from doing the exact same thing? If you don't know how, you could join a union, volunteer your time, build up some actual credibility, and *then* take charge of all this stuff you're preaching about. That way, you can actually turn your visions into reality—assuming, of course, that your goals align with what the cyclist union is actually trying to achieve, because you're stepping into a world that already functions quite well without your permission.

It’s obvious you feel a massive need to spread your "knowledge," and man, you have endless energy for repeating the same points over and over on this forum. I guess you think you're doing us a favor by trying to pass your ideas on to as many people as possible... which is fine, I suppose, but try doing it with a little less malice. Right now, you just come across like someone who wants to pick a fight with everyone just to force people to lock their bikes exactly the way you decided is best. My suggestion? Go down to the cyclist union. They're decent people who actually enjoy socializing (I know a few folks involved, so I'm telling you). Go talk to them, pitch your ideas, commit to actually doing the work, and then go full throttle... (to be honest, I don't know exactly how their inner workings function since I'm not part of the union, but I'd bet it works something like that).
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
casualotter15 said:If you actually have a vision for how things should change—if you truly understand how they ought to look and what it takes to make that happen—then instead of just spinning your wheels, you might consider actually doing something about it. Rather than assuming you know what everyone else is thinking and trying to force your own perspective onto them, or projecting your internal ideas onto others, you should take some tangible action.

For instance, if I read about a "railway association," I could spend my days sending endless emails complaining that tickets to some tiny town are too expensive, even though that association doesn't have the authority or the capacity to change ticket prices; their actual purpose might be to organize small unions to gain leverage in collective bargaining agreements (I'm making that up just to illustrate a point, so don't hold me to it). I can get as angry as I want about those ticket prices, but the whole thing stems from me—from my own assumptions and my own idea of how the world should work.

When someone gets an idea, they gather like-minded people and organize themselves in a way that gains at least some media coverage; what exactly is stopping you from doing the same? If you aren't sure how, you could join a union, volunteer, build up some credibility, and then eventually step up and handle all this stuff you're talking about, effectively realizing your vision (provided, of course, that it aligns with the goals of the cyclist union, because you are entering an ecosystem that functions quite well without you).

It’s obvious that you feel a strong need to spread your knowledge, and you seem to have an infinite supply of energy to repeat it here on the forum; clearly, you care deeply about conveying your perspectives to as many people as possible... which is all very commendable in its own way, but perhaps try doing it in a slightly less aggressive manner, because you give off the impression that you'd rather just pick fights with everyone until people start locking up their bikes exactly the way you think is best. My suggestion would be to head straight over to the cyclist union; they are approachable people who enjoy socializing (I know a few folks involved in the work, so I can put you in touch), chat with them, propose what you could contribute regarding the topics you care about, commit to the work, and go for it... (to be honest, I don't know exactly how their internal mechanics work since I'm not part of the union leadership, but I assume it works along those lines).


Well, let me finally weigh in,😁 since I almost forgot, though it’s never too late.First, let's address the basics regarding what you call spinning your wheels, which most reasonable people simply call criticizing someone or something in the public media.Right now, you just come across as a bad defense attorney for Mr. Vladimir, who, frankly, probably doesn't even need your help.The conclusion is pretty simple: anyone who steps out publicly on a news station has to be prepared for criticism. If they can't handle being critiqued, they shouldn't be in the media; they should learn the basic facts about a subject before stepping in front of a camera. Spouting half-truths or incorrect advice in the media is essentially pointless, yet it's a common practice here in America.

I have no desire to start any unions of my own; I have plenty of other, more important interests in life. Specifically, I'm not interested in joining the cyclist union—as I've said before, they are largely useless, and that's obvious to any sensible person. But we learn from our mistakes, right? If certain people in the cyclist union don't know how to properly secure a bike with a U-Lock, they ought to learn the fundamentals, especially since all that information is readily available online.I’ll say it again because it bears repeating: it is utterly nonsensical for someone claiming to be a member of a cyclist union to have no clue about the most effective way to use a U-Lock. It’s a total absurdity, really—akin to a car owner having absolutely no idea where to pour the windshield wiper fluid.

So, you think I’m being malicious,😵 or that my actual intention is just to pick fights or get into physical altercations over bike security.It’s clear you don't quite grasp how the media works, nor have you ever heard of targeted legal consulting or even basic marketing strategies. You can't achieve anything without a certain level of assertiveness, though that has nothing to do with actual aggression in the real world. You’re completely misinterpreting my point; I am simply stating long-established facts and rules regarding bike locking. In the same vein, I offer criticism, because bad practices and poor advice in the media should be aggressively called out rather than quietly swept under the rug.

Given that we live in a place as chaotic as America, it isn't surprising that I come across as a bit of an oddball to many. If the American police are busy recommending flimsy cable locks to unsuspecting cyclists, then who is this strange, annoying U-Lock fanatic who keeps insisting otherwise?🙂
David Wells92 David Wells92 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Andrew Miller102 says:
Well, I suppose it’s finally my turn to weigh in,😁 and honestly, I almost forgot about this thread entirely, though it’s never too late to join the conversation.First off, let’s address the core issue here, because what you’re calling just talking in circles, is actually what most people would simply call offering criticism to someone or something in the public media.It feels a little bit like you’re acting as an overly zealous defense attorney for Vladimir, who, if I may say so, can probably hold his own without the help.The conclusion is pretty straightforward: anyone stepping out in front of an American TV camera has to be prepared to face some scrutiny. If they can't handle a bit of pushback, they probably shouldn't be seeking the spotlight in the media—or better yet, they should probably brush up on their basic facts before they ever step in front of a lens. Spreading half-baked or flat-out wrong advice through the news doesn't really serve anyone, but unfortunately, that seems to be a pretty common practice here in America.

I don't have any interest in joining any special interest groups or unions myself, as I have plenty of other things going on in my life. Specifically, I couldn't care less about being part of a bicycle union, as I already mentioned, they are essentially useless, which seems pretty obvious to any sensible person. But hey, we learn from our mistakes, right? If certain folks in a bicycle union don't even know how to properly use a U-Lock, they ought to go look up the basics online.I’ll say it again just to be clear: there is absolutely no reason why a member of a cycling organization wouldn't know the single most important way to secure a bike with a U-Lock. It’s a complete absurdity, kind of like a car owner not knowing where to pour the windshield wiper fluid.

Now, if you think I’m writing this with malice,😵 or that I’m actually trying to pick a fight or even scuffle with people over bike security, you've got me all wrong.It seems like you might not have any clue about how the media works, or perhaps you haven't heard of targeted consulting or marketing. Without a little bit of assertiveness, you won't get anything done, but that has nothing to do with actual physical aggression. You're mixing up apples and oranges here, because I am simply constantly repeating well-established facts b>and rules regarding locking up a bike. In the same vein, I share my critiques, because bad practices and faulty advice in the media should be vigorously challenged rather than being politely swept under the rug.

Since we live in such a wacky part of America, it’s probably not surprising that I come across as a bit of an oddball to some people.If the American police uninformed cyclists suggest using simple cable locks, then who am I to be this strange, annoying U-Lock enthusiast for everyone else's benefit?🙂



By the way, if you happen to know the difference between various English spellings and grammar rules, please try to use them correctly, as it gets a bit distracting to read text with so many errors.

And it's "clue," not "clew," so that's how it's spelled and said: you have no "clue."
If you were still in fifth grade, you'd probably be working on improving your spelling grade.
Andrew Miller102 Andrew Miller102 Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
Just thought I’d liven this thread up with a few interesting little observations.It occurred to me to check whether the Department of Justice's YouTube channel offers any actually useful or preventative content for cyclists.From what I can see, the Department of Justice provides nothing but garbage—either useless mentions or incredibly poorly produced video compilations. I dug up an expectedly absurd example from 2013. Given when that video was posted, they likely still push the same advice or recommendations today. This video is clearly the work of the incompetent crew over at the Istria Department of Justice. Apparently, if you lock your bike with a standard cable, you can sleep soundly at night.



One more example to wrap things up, another video production centered around bike theft. Let's pretend this is the YouTube channel for a city like Ivanič, though that doesn't really matter. I'll skip straight to the most important part for us, so anyone interested can watch the full video from the start.The gentleman sharing these gems, I'm not entirely sure if he's a DOJ official himself, but he probably is. If he works for the Department of Justice, he's likely still in the same position today, working for a government agency.



- underneath the bottom bracket?Right, so a bike has a bottom bracket; now, whether it's better to have a front or rear drive is something I'm not quite sure about. Certain bikes probably only have a front drive or maybe a rear one, I guess.

- pressed into the chassis?Where exactly is this "chassis" coming from? A bike has a frame, not a chassis. Let's try not to confuse cars with bicycles, unless we want someone like Grom to run us over.

- the guy mentions a rear fork on a bike, but that's just the rear part of the bike frame. Honestly, maybe Google knows a bit more about rear forks than this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=stra...w=1582&bih=761

The video dates back to 2014, so once again, you don't know whether to laugh or cry—just toss it in the trash. We're out here trying to share advice, yet we don't even seem to grasp the most basic technical details regarding bicycles.🍿
briskowl5 briskowl5 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Andrew Miller102 edited and proofread 🤦
Jeffrey Hall5 Jeffrey Hall5 Newcomer
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#16 ·
@Andrew Miller102—hey, any chance we could get a look at your ride? Or maybe even the whole collection if you’ve got a few. I’m also dying to see some of your cycling stats—where you actually head out to ride and what your life on two wheels looks like. I just figure that someone who’s put down this many miles of writing about bikes and cycling probably has some pretty impressive actual results on the road too. Maybe I missed a post somewhere where you went over all that, but let me know.
analogcyclist12 analogcyclist12 Member
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#17 ·
I mean, what exactly are you talking about? If he were to actually list his credentials in bicycle mechanics, lock security, tire tech, music, or hardware... we’d need at least three separate threads just for his self-congratulatory posts. The man is essentially tethered to his monitor; his entire existence revolves around scouring online reviews and then masquerading that borrowed information as his own expertise on this forum. I highly doubt he has ever even laid eyes on, touched, or—heaven forbid—actually ridden a single bike that he either recommends or disparages. Yet, here we are. I suppose when you're talented at selling nothingness, being the loudest person in the room is your only real strategy.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#18 ·
Everything is great, really. Let’s just pretend it’s easy to stop someone from walking off with your entire bike if you have a solid U-Lock, right? But how the hell are you supposed to prevent them from stripping your wheels, the seat, the seat post, and everything else?

You can't. That's how.

The only way to actually make it work is to keep that bike within your line of sight most of the time, or at least park it somewhere with heavy foot traffic where people are watching.
+ And keep it inside your house, not out in some backyard shed.
Jerry Lewis3 Jerry Lewis3 Newcomer
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#19 ·
mellowtiger83 said:Everything sounds great on paper, sure. Let's just say it's easy to prevent a total bike theft if you're using a high-quality U-lock, right? But how the hell are you supposed to stop someone from swiping your wheels, your seat, or your seat post?

It just doesn't add up.

The only way to actually make this work is to keep your bike right where you can see it most of the time, or at least park it somewhere with heavy foot traffic.
Plus, it’s actually kept inside the apartment, not just shoved away in some random backyard shed.

You know, there are actually specific cables designed just for that—to loop through your wheels and secure them directly to the frame along with your U-lock.
Ethan Chavez3 Ethan Chavez3 Newcomer
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#20 ·
Either or perhaps something like this...

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