Singapore GP (Marina Bay Street Circuit) - 09/22/2013

David Anderson72 said:how?
Every single title won by Alonso and Kimi is worth more than everything Vettel ever achieved combined.

When that kind of take comes from someone who knows Formula 1 as well as a total amateur... yeah, I guess I'll agree with you there. 🤣

frozenheron7 said:It really caught me off guard how Mark Webber's car gave up on him while Vettel didn't face any issues at all. Is this actually the first time that's happened? 😁

Does anyone know how many times Michael Schumacher's car broke down compared to Rubens Barrichello's?
And more importantly, how often did the pit crew prioritize one over the other when things started going south?

placidridge2 said:Exactly—and all of that was achieved in a totally dominant car. He didn't clinch that title because of pure driving wizardry, much like how things weren't quite the same at McLaren.

The sheer number of titles proves he wasn't just some fluke driver. It’s as plain as day. ☕

Are you really trying to suggest that McLaren wasn't dominant that year? They were basically trading blows right up until the final race. I mean, let's not forget what Kimi was pulling off back in 2005 with McLaren—a car that could somehow manage to limp to the finish line just as reliably as an old Yugo reaching 93 miles/h.

Vettel had an incredibly dominant machine, and honestly, when that car isn't there, he simply isn't there either—which tells you pretty much everything you need to know about him. What a total clown.

David Anderson72 said:how?
Every single title won by Alonso and Kimi is worth more than all of Vettel's combined.

How much fans actually value Vettel's wins and titles? Just look at the reactions whenever a fraud sits down for a podium interview.

Honestly, even Schumacher was more boring. Races used to be even duller than today's, yet he never got to act as entitled as a fraud does.

Maybe there's a reason for it. 🤷

jadeseal7 said:🤣🤣 Kimi was my king. He was sitting in 3rd place heading into Brazil 2007 with basically zero chance, but then he just outplayed both Lewis Hamilton and Sergio Perez on track to snatch the title.

Also, Kimi leaving Ferrari was just like Alonso leaving McLaren. Great drivers, nothing more.🤣

frozenheron7 said:I found myself quite struck by the fact that Mark Webber suffered a mechanical failure while Sebastian Vettel remained entirely unscathed; could this truly be the first instance of such an occurrence? 😁

It seems you may have missed the British Grand Prix this season, and perhaps even a few races from seasons past as well.

Hey genius 🙏🙏🙏

Finally, Vettel has the top-tier car he actually deserves😍

David Anderson72 said:He had momentum at the start, but you clearly aren't watching his other races where he consistently carves through the field one by one. The only thing he can't overtake is Adrian Newey's design work.

Look, I’ve watched almost every race from back in '92 until now.
In all that time, I've probably missed maybe ten races, if that...
I'll say it again: Alonso is elite, and he frequently pulls off great overtakes and displays high-level racing intelligence. But it bothers me when every single move he makes is treated like a miracle, even the ones that
don't actually deserve that much hype. It isn't even fair to Alonso himself, because then his truly brilliant, world-class maneuvers lose their impact...
I am genuinely curious to see how Vettel performs once he has as much Formula 1 experience as Alonso does. A huge part of Alonso's success relies on that massive veteran experience...
So, we will see if Vettel continues to improve with age and eventually reaches the same level as Alonso. That remains to be seen...

ruggedfox28 said:I honestly didn't start getting excited about Vettel's wins until I realized how much it absolutely drove the hardcore fanboys crazy to watch him succeed. It’s just pure entertainment at this point.😍

I have a bad feeling about how things are shaping up today.😛

Perez is stuck behind Button again. What a joke.

placidridge2 said:And honestly, if you look at the history books, Kimi Räikkönen leaving Ferrari was just like when Fernando Alonso moved on from McLaren—it's all part of that pattern. It really just goes to show you that true, elite drivers eventually have to move on to find their next challenge. Real legends in the making, really! 🤣

Honestly, if you look at the facts, Kimi left because Ferrari was treating him like a second-class citizen—he just didn't have that absolute authority that Vettel enjoyed, where everything basically went his way. But then he jumps back into Formula 1 after a three-year hiatus and immediately starts grabbing podiums and wins, even while driving for a Lotus team that wasn't exactly top-tier at the time. It really proves the point for me: Kimi built his legendary career through sheer, brilliant driving talent, whereas Vettel’s success was largely driven by having a brilliant car under him. That’s really all there is to it!

EDIT: wins and podium finishes.