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rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#61 ·
coppersailor28 said:Post '#44' on this, specifically page 3 of this thread 🤷

Oh, he's been banned.
Nicholas Barnes74 Nicholas Barnes74 Active MemberOP
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#62 ·
rustydrifter10 said:Could you send me the link to that post?


I didn't really get into who it was—they were banned, and I'm honestly not sure what the exact deal was there—but it doesn't really matter for the point I was trying to make.
Nicholas Barnes74 Nicholas Barnes74 Active MemberOP
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#63 ·
Religion again.
The second a moderator thinks someone is being homophobic, they just shut the whole thread down immediately.
Check out this snippet from yesterday: "Actually, Catholics are the biggest idolaters and cursed ones before God—it’s clearly stated in the Bible." (
Now, just imagine if they had said "gay people" instead of "Catholics."
The sanctions would have kicked in right away, I guess.
But hey, you can say whatever you want about Catholics. No rules there, apparently.
P.s. I reported it, but like always, it was pretty much useless.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#64 ·
Nicholas Barnes74 said:Religion again.
The second a moderator thinks someone is being homophobic, they just shut the whole thread down immediately.
Check out this snippet from yesterday: "Actually, Catholics are the biggest idolaters and cursed ones before God—it’s clearly stated in the Bible." (
Now, just imagine if they had said "gay people" instead of "Catholics."
The sanctions would have kicked in right away, I guess.
But hey, you can say whatever you want about Catholics. No rules there, apparently.
P.s. I reported it, but like always, it was pretty much useless.

If that were true, then most threads under 'Religion' would be locked whenever anyone cited the Bible.

So, what we have here is 'homophobia' coming from the Bible itself (meaning, 'homophobia' from the side of Yahweh and Jesus):
Nicholas Barnes74 said:... Here is an excerpt from yesterday:
"Catholics are actually the greatest idolaters and the most cursed before God, that is plainly stated in the text." ( ...

User @ESvijetJeprevar
(his posting history is about as appealing as yours—meaning, zero points)
believes Catholics practice idolatry.

That opinion cannot exactly be called homophobic...
...and as far as the Bible goes, God Yahweh has his own rules regarding idolatry, so those rules should be respected by those who claim to be Catholic(the American Catholic Church).

Rather than whining here, it would be more rational to ask him on what basis he thinks Yahweh and Jesus view Catholics as cursed.
I am certain that even user @ESvijetJeprevar (not just me or anyone else) could easily find more than enough material in the Bible to support such a claim...

Nicholas Barnes74 said:... Now imagine if instead of "Catholics," it said "homosexuals." ...

🤣 It is hard to imagine such a thing. The Bible is a holy book, after all...
But in that case, it really could be described as homophobia.

From the Bible's perspective, homophobia:
The Bible said:- (Leviticus 18:22) Do not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination;

- (Romans 1:27) and so men have left the natural use of the woman, and burned in lust one toward another; men with men committing shameless acts, and receiving in themselves their own due penalty for their error;

- (Romans 1:32) doing what is not fitting... They know the decree of God
that those who practice such things deserve death;

- (...) ... .

From a non-homophobic forum perspective (depending on the context, obviously):
"Yahweh says in the Bible: (Lev. 18, 22), (Rom. 1, 27), (Rom. 1, 32), ..."


Nicholas Barnes74 said:... Sanctions would kick in immediately. ...

If you were the one calling the shots, then most likely, yes.

Nicholas Barnes74 said:... But they can go after Catholics. Whoever wants to.
P.S. Reported, though as usual, to no avail.

Isn't it obvious why the authorities ignore your reports most of the time?
feralpilot0 feralpilot0 Active Member
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#65 ·
coppersailor28 said:If that were true, then most threads under 'Religion' would be locked whenever anyone cited the Bible.

So, what we have here is 'homophobia' coming from the Bible itself (meaning, 'homophobia' from the side of Yahweh and Jesus):

User @ESvijetJeprevar
(his posting history is about as appealing as yours—meaning, zero points)
believes Catholics practice idolatry.

That opinion cannot exactly be called homophobic...
...and as far as the Bible goes, God Yahweh has his own rules regarding idolatry, so those rules should be respected by those who claim to be Catholic(the American Catholic Church).

Rather than whining here, it would be more rational to ask him on what basis he thinks Yahweh and Jesus view Catholics as cursed.
I am certain that even user @ESvijetJeprevar (not just me or anyone else) could easily find more than enough material in the Bible to support such a claim...

🤣 It is hard to imagine such a thing. The Bible is a holy book, after all...
But in that case, it really could be described as homophobia.

From the Bible's perspective, homophobia:

From a non-homophobic forum perspective (depending on the context, obviously):
"Yahweh says in the Bible: (Lev. 18, 22), (Rom. 1, 27), (Rom. 1, 32), ..."


If you were the one calling the shots, then most likely, yes.

Isn't it obvious why the authorities ignore your reports most of the time?

This entire thread is proof of the kind of nonsense happening in the Religion section—it crossed the line of good taste and civilized behavior a long time ago.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#66 ·
feralpilot0 said:This entire thread is proof of the kind of nonsense happening in the Religion section—it crossed the line of good taste and civilized behavior a long time ago.

😲

I went out of my way to give my previous post a professional touch—you know, like when I jump onto a live TV news segment titled
"What is your opinion on building a nuclear power plant in the middle of downtown Chicago,"

and then, using my most distinguished, gentlemanly, and clearly educated vocabulary, I declare:
"Hello? Hello? If you're asking me, electricity? Yes. Atoms? Absolutely not... Hello?! Electricity? Yes. Atoms? No way! That’s all you get from me, thanks and goodbye... Hello?! Hello?!"


Can you point out one/certain parts of that post of mine which serve as
proof for you, which would/would justify your interpretation of that same post as evidence that
"everything has long since crossed the boundaries of good taste and civilized behavior"?
Nicholas Barnes74 Nicholas Barnes74 Active MemberOP
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#67 ·
feralpilot0 said:This entire thread is proof of the kind of nonsense happening in the Religion section—it crossed the line of good taste and civilized behavior a long time ago.

Honestly, they're just some random, unimportant person—I've got them on ignore anyway—but it still proves how everyone thinks they have the right to judge believers and anyone else posting in the Religion section.
Even though there are actually some great, interesting discussions happening, unfortunately, a lot of high-quality people have stopped posting because the moderation is just... off. You've got a few people constantly clogging up threads with jokes, and yeah, there are always some weirdos and fanatics, I guess—that exists everywhere...
It would be nice if the moderators on the Religion board were at least somewhat fair toward believers, but that’s just not happening. I know that sub-forum is like a hot potato that nobody wants to touch, so maybe it'd be better if nobody moderated it at all—then we could all just talk to each other however we want, instead of having certain people policing everything.
I'm not some forum addict, so it doesn't really bother me that much, but it does suck seeing how smoothly moderation works on other boards (like with Azz, rustydrifter10, or Lemonzoo...) while here, if you even mention something, you risk getting banned. It happened to me once when they were gunning for me, slapping me with a "trolling" label—and when I asked for even one single example? Nothing, zero, zip... they just didn't want to deal with it.
wiredcanyon94 wiredcanyon94 Active Member
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#68 ·
Nicholas Barnes74 said:Honestly, they're just some random, unimportant person—I've got them on ignore anyway—but it still proves how everyone thinks they have the right to judge believers and anyone else posting in the Religion section.
Even though there are actually some great, interesting discussions happening, unfortunately, a lot of high-quality people have stopped posting because the moderation is just... off. You've got a few people constantly clogging up threads with jokes, and yeah, there are always some weirdos and fanatics, I guess—that exists everywhere...
It would be nice if the moderators on the Religion board were at least somewhat fair toward believers, but that’s just not happening. I know that sub-forum is like a hot potato that nobody wants to touch, so maybe it'd be better if nobody moderated it at all—then we could all just talk to each other however we want, instead of having certain people policing everything.
I'm not some forum addict, so it doesn't really bother me that much, but it does suck seeing how smoothly moderation works on other boards (like with Azz, rustydrifter10, or Lemonzoo...) while here, if you even mention something, you risk getting banned. It happened to me once when they were gunning for me, slapping me with a "trolling" label—and when I asked for even one single example? Nothing, zero, zip... they just didn't want to deal with it.

You’re complaining here that nobody is moderating that PDF, yet in a post you wrote just a few hours ago, you’re complaining that threads are being deleted instantly. So, how does that work if nobody is actually managing that PDF?

That's one thing, but another thing is, I don't think you're actually qualified to report anything since half the people discussing stuff are on your ignore list (your own words). Because of that, you can't even follow the flow of the conversation. You’re missing half of what’s being written. It’s like playing a game of telephone. You completely lose the sense of the point and the context.
Now, ignoring people is perfectly legitimate and you should feel free to do it, but if you do, you aren't in any position to be reporting anyone.
Nicholas Bailey3 Nicholas Bailey3 Active Member
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#69 ·
I spent a little time poking fun at religion with the atheists—it was like watching kids throw a tantrum because someone took their candy. 😁
Funny people, honestly.
feralpilot0 feralpilot0 Active Member
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#70 ·
coppersailor28 said:😲

I went out of my way to give my previous post a professional touch—you know, like when I jump onto a live TV news segment titled
"What is your opinion on building a nuclear power plant in the middle of downtown Chicago,"

and then, using my most distinguished, gentlemanly, and clearly educated vocabulary, I declare:
"Hello? Hello? If you're asking me, electricity? Yes. Atoms? Absolutely not... Hello?! Electricity? Yes. Atoms? No way! That’s all you get from me, thanks and goodbye... Hello?! Hello?!"


Can you point out one/certain parts of that post of mine which serve as
proof for you, which would/would justify your interpretation of that same post as evidence that
"everything has long since crossed the boundaries of good taste and civilized behavior"?

The user is complaining about being called a bigot and mentally deficient, and instead of pushing back, you're busy explaining to her why she's absolutely right.

If the goal here is to label every believer as a homophobic hater, then this PDF is essentially useless—just scrap it, release a "woke" version, and merge it with Middle East politics.
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#71 ·
feralpilot0 said:The user is complaining about being called a bigot and mentally deficient, and instead of pushing back, you're busy explaining to her why she's absolutely right.

If the goal here is to label every believer as a homophobic hater, then this PDF is essentially useless—just scrap it, release a "woke" version, and merge it with Middle East politics.

Where are you? to* Did you read it?

*(to...that it happens.
'One user is complaining because she was labeled a hater and told she’s mentally deficient.'
I'm ready. Send the content. to Give her that.
'I am still clarifying why that designation is justified.')

Even if you posted this on some random sub-forum. (on 'Religion.(Let's say) And it was true—no, I’m convinced it wasn't.

...so even if it were true, 'The public.You informed her about that. Like this:
feralpilot0 said:This entire thread is proof of the kind of nonsense happening in the Religion section—it crossed the line of good taste and civilized behavior a long time ago.


@ Nicholas Barnes74Nicholas Barnes74 I'm in that one. "This one.In his post. He was responding to exactly what I said, which I quoted.
So, she came here just to complain. new Problem. This thread was dead for nearly a month.:
Nicholas Barnes74 said:Religion again.
The second a moderator thinks someone is being homophobic, they just shut the whole thread down immediately.
Check out this snippet from yesterday: "Actually, Catholics are the biggest idolaters and cursed ones before God—it’s clearly stated in the Bible." (
Now, just imagine if they had said "gay people" instead of "Catholics."
The sanctions would have kicked in right away, I guess.
But hey, you can say whatever you want about Catholics. No rules there, apparently.
P.s. I reported it, but like always, it was pretty much useless.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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joined Oct 2011
#72 ·
Nicholas Barnes74 said:Religion again.
The second a moderator thinks someone is being homophobic, they just shut the whole thread down immediately.
Check out this snippet from yesterday: "Actually, Catholics are the biggest idolaters and cursed ones before God—it’s clearly stated in the Bible." (
Now, just imagine if they had said "gay people" instead of "Catholics."
The sanctions would have kicked in right away, I guess.
But hey, you can say whatever you want about Catholics. No rules there, apparently.
P.s. I reported it, but like always, it was pretty much useless.

While I’m certainly no fan of Catholics—nor believers in general, and especially not you—as an atheist, this kind of hypocrisy really grinds my gears.
You’ve hit the nail on the head: if we can talk about Catholics this way, then we should be able to talk about gay people, men with vaginas, Ukrainians, Jews—or honestly, anyone else. Though, in my opinion, it would be better if these things were discussed using more appropriate language.
The goal of this forum is for the Boss to make money, so whatever nonsense happens to be trendy passes through—you can only look for justice somewhere else and hope to find a fairer place.

feralpilot0 said:This entire thread is proof of the kind of nonsense happening in the Religion section—it crossed the line of good taste and civilized behavior a long time ago.

Exactly. We really don't need this kind of mindless idiocy on the PŽK.
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#73 ·
Nicholas Barnes74 said:Religion again.
The second a moderator thinks someone is being homophobic, they just shut the whole thread down immediately.
Check out this snippet from yesterday: "Actually, Catholics are the biggest idolaters and cursed ones before God—it’s clearly stated in the Bible." (
Now, just imagine if they had said "gay people" instead of "Catholics."
The sanctions would have kicked in right away, I guess.
But hey, you can say whatever you want about Catholics. No rules there, apparently.
P.s. I reported it, but like always, it was pretty much useless.

This is coming from one pretty troubled individual, who claims that basic public schooling is basically "slavery and extreme violence that needs to be abolished" ...... 🤦

And now we’re supposed to paint him as your typical atheist and the reason why all non-believers should be kicked out of the religion subforum. ☕

bluecyclist64 said:While I’m certainly no fan of Catholics—nor believers in general, and especially not you—as an atheist, this kind of hypocrisy really grinds my gears.
You’ve hit the nail on the head: if we can talk about Catholics this way, then we should be able to talk about gay people, men with vaginas, Ukrainians, Jews—or honestly, anyone else. Though, in my opinion, it would be better if these things were discussed using more appropriate language.
The goal of this forum is for the Boss to make money, so whatever nonsense happens to be trendy passes through—you can only look for justice somewhere else and hope to find a fairer place.

Exactly. We really don't need this kind of mindless idiocy on the PŽK.

God, what a bunch of ultra-leftist demagoguery.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#74 ·
Anthony Perez9 said:This is coming from one pretty troubled individual, who claims that basic public schooling is basically "slavery and extreme violence that needs to be abolished" ...... 🤦

And now we’re supposed to paint him as your typical atheist and the reason why all non-believers should be kicked out of the religion subforum. ☕

God, what a bunch of ultra-leftist demagoguery.

And screw all that; even we social democrats have drifted into the extreme left ourselves...🤦

You know, next time you try to insult me, do try a little harder to actually get under my skin, even if just for a second. And while you're at it, it would be wise to ensure you don't look completely foolish in the process.🤣
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#75 ·
bluecyclist64 said:And screw all that; even we social democrats have drifted into the extreme left ourselves...🤦

You know, next time you try to insult me, do try a little harder to actually get under my skin, even if just for a second. And while you're at it, it would be wise to ensure you don't look completely foolish in the process.🤣

Unexpectedly lukewarm response... ☕
Nicholas Barnes74 Nicholas Barnes74 Active MemberOP
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#76 ·
Haha, just a little more follow-up on the Religion topic: Second off, nobody’s saying women are less intelligent—it's more about, I don't know, a certain lack of focus... or maybe they're just more forgetful... especially during their period.
(
Everything passes eventually 🤦
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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#77 ·
Nicholas Barnes74 said:Haha, just a little more follow-up on the Religion topic: Second off, nobody’s saying women are less intelligent—it's more about, I don't know, a certain lack of focus... or maybe they're just more forgetful... especially during their period.
(
Everything passes eventually 🤦

Slow down a second.

I don't get why you feel the need to start your post with an excuse:
("I didn't say women were stupider, just lacking intellect ...or rather, they're more forgetful... especially during their menstrual cycle")

Something is off with that link you posted—any idea why?

If that actually is a link, wouldn't it be much smarter to delete that broken link
(again, assuming that's actually what happened)
instead of using it as an intro?

Nicholas Barnes74 said:Haha, just a little more follow-up on the Religion topic: Second off, nobody’s saying women are less intelligent—it's more about, I don't know, a certain lack of focus... or maybe they're just more forgetful... especially during their period.
(
Everything passes eventually 🤦

Well, damn, nothing lasts forever...

I remember when you joined this Forum back in 2018;
God, what an intellect, what a memory! Back then, you could accurately cite a post number from two months ago, even noting the exact minute it was sent...

Yeah...
Charles Wood73 Charles Wood73 Active Member
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#78 ·
coppersailor28 said:Slow down a second.

I don't get why you feel the need to start your post with an excuse:
("I didn't say women were stupider, just lacking intellect ...or rather, they're more forgetful... especially during their menstrual cycle")

Something is off with that link you posted—any idea why?

If that actually is a link, wouldn't it be much smarter to delete that broken link
(again, assuming that's actually what happened)
instead of using it as an intro?

Well, damn, nothing lasts forever...

I remember when you joined this Forum back in 2018;
God, what an intellect, what a memory! Back then, you could accurately cite a post number from two months ago, even noting the exact minute it was sent...

Yeah...

I'll handle it myself. 🙂
Kenneth Cruz67 Kenneth Cruz67 Regular
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#79 ·
Charles Wood73 said:I'll handle it myself. 🙂

So, what’s the big deal, really? I suppose people grumble about this not necessarily because they are believers, but just because they are women. Honestly, it feels like such a futile struggle when the very foundation of the faith rests on Eve's little mishap with the apple and the serpent. I mean, as long as time exists, there will probably always be someone poking fun at us because of it. She really should have been a bit more careful, I guess—that apple really did cause a mess! Women, at least, earned their exile from the Garden because they were the ones who tripped things up, whereas Adam and all the men were kicked out through no fault of their own, so where does that leave us? Who actually feels sorry for us or shows any empathy? Nooo, not at all! It's always "oh, the patriarchy this" or "the patriarchy that." It all comes back to that single piece of fruit. If it had been a slice of ham, some lamb, or even just a nice veal shank cooked under a spit, maybe we could talk! But an apple? It was just such a silly mistake by Eve. And, I suppose, by all her daughters too.
Charles Wood73 Charles Wood73 Active Member
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#80 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:So, what’s the big deal, really? I suppose people grumble about this not necessarily because they are believers, but just because they are women. Honestly, it feels like such a futile struggle when the very foundation of the faith rests on Eve's little mishap with the apple and the serpent. I mean, as long as time exists, there will probably always be someone poking fun at us because of it. She really should have been a bit more careful, I guess—that apple really did cause a mess! Women, at least, earned their exile from the Garden because they were the ones who tripped things up, whereas Adam and all the men were kicked out through no fault of their own, so where does that leave us? Who actually feels sorry for us or shows any empathy? Nooo, not at all! It's always "oh, the patriarchy this" or "the patriarchy that." It all comes back to that single piece of fruit. If it had been a slice of ham, some lamb, or even just a nice veal shank cooked under a spit, maybe we could talk! But an apple? It was just such a silly mistake by Eve. And, I suppose, by all her daughters too.

Water is wet. I’m not a believer.

Kenneth Cruz67 said:So, what’s the big deal, really? I suppose people grumble about this not necessarily because they are believers, but just because they are women. Honestly, it feels like such a futile struggle when the very foundation of the faith rests on Eve's little mishap with the apple and the serpent. I mean, as long as time exists, there will probably always be someone poking fun at us because of it. She really should have been a bit more careful, I guess—that apple really did cause a mess! Women, at least, earned their exile from the Garden because they were the ones who tripped things up, whereas Adam and all the men were kicked out through no fault of their own, so where does that leave us? Who actually feels sorry for us or shows any empathy? Nooo, not at all! It's always "oh, the patriarchy this" or "the patriarchy that." It all comes back to that single piece of fruit. If it had been a slice of ham, some lamb, or even just a nice veal shank cooked under a spit, maybe we could talk! But an apple? It was just such a silly mistake by Eve. And, I suppose, by all her daughters too.

And if it were an apple stuffed in a pig?
🙄

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