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Help! My hard drives are overheating!

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Participants nimblehound32mellowmoose17John Fowler3Patrick King7Dennis White2Charles Bailey45nimblescout50jadetiger962Carl Sanchez4Dana Reyes5William Murphy5Eric Cruz5fadedskipper85wearyotter36
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
7 messages
joined Oct 2011
#1 ·
Hey everyone πŸ™‚)

I’m running into a bit of a headache with my brakes. I’ve been hitting some rough trailsβ€”think muddy woods, gravel paths, old farm roads, that kind of thingβ€”where I’m having to rely on my brakes quite a bit. I recently picked up a new bike, and since this is my first time ever using disc brakes, I’m still figuring out how they behave. I’ve got these mechanical 160mm Shimano BR-M415 discs installed, but after maybe a minute or two of heavy braking, the rotors get absolutely scorching. Seriously, I touched one once and nearly cooked my finger off 😲

So, I wanted to get your take: is this level of heat actually normal for these types of brakes? And more importantly, is it safe to splash some water on them to cool things down, or am I asking for trouble? I’ve seen all sorts of crazy advice on YouTube regarding overheating, and honestly, half of it sounds like a recipe for disaster πŸ™‚

Thanks in advance πŸ™‚)
mellowmoose17 mellowmoose17 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2011
#2 ·
Overheating is pretty standard. Whatever you do, don't try to cool them down with water.

When you're braking, stop holding the pedal down constantly. Just use a pump techniqueβ€”squeeze, then release.
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2011
#3 ·
mellowmoose17 said:The heat you're feeling is totally standard. Whatever you do, don't try to cool them down by spraying them with water.

When you're hitting the brakes, stop trying to hold them down constantly. You gotta learn the squeeze-and-release technique instead.


I’ve given it a shot, but honestly? When you're out on a trail meant for pure downhill, trying to survive that kind of terrain on an MTB is just brutal.πŸ™‚
John Fowler3 John Fowler3 Member
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joined Jun 2009
#4 ·
Whatever you do, don't blast those hot rotors with water. You'll warp them instantly...

If your riding style involves dragging the brakes constantly for two minutes straight, you probably picked a trail that's way too gnarly for you or your bike. Even on a heavy-duty downhill run, nobody's holding the brakes down like that, no matter how steep it gets...
Patrick King7 Patrick King7 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#5 ·
I learned the hard way when I first started messing around with disc brakes. Now? I don't sweat it. Heat isn't the enemy; actually, you kind of want them warm. When I'm riding through wet conditions, I'll give the brakes a quick squeeze just to get them up to temp and dry out. It keeps the stopping power consistent regardless of the weather. Just don't ride the brakes constantlyβ€”you’ve got to let them breathe every now and then.
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2011
#6 ·
John Fowler3 said:Whatever you do, don't blast those rotors with water while they're still scorching hot. You’ll warp them in a heartbeat...

Look, if your only way of riding is basically white-knuckling the brakes for two minutes straight, then you’ve probably picked a trail that’s way too technical for either you or the bike you're on. Even on a pro-level downhill run, nobody is dragging their brakes constantly like that, no matter how steep the drop is...

I get that, but the thing is, this bike wasn't built for downhill. It's a nightmare to steer through stuff like that, so I have to slow down just so I don't end up face-planting...πŸ™‚ 😁

So what, I shouldn't be worried about the whole thing catching fire or some other disaster? πŸ˜‚
Dennis White2 Dennis White2 Member
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joined Jul 2007
#7 ·
Just grab some decent brakes; it won't be much of an issue, though I guess you might end up a bit more winded than usual.😁
Charles Bailey45 Charles Bailey45 Member
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joined Jan 2015
#8 ·
Nah πŸ™‚

The only real fix is going with a larger rotor or upgrading to a better brake setup.

But I gotta askβ€”why on earth are you hitting downhill trails on an HT with brakes meant for casual XC riding?
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2011
#9 ·
Charles Bailey45 said:That's not πŸ™‚

The only real fix here is stepping up to a larger rotor or just getting a better brake setup altogether.

But honestly, I don't get itβ€”why on earth are you hitting downhill tracks on an HT when you're running brakes meant for some casual XC ride?

Just being broke and unable to afford a proper DH bike 😁
basically πŸ™‚
Charles Bailey45 Charles Bailey45 Member
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joined Jan 2015
#10 ·
nimblehound32 said:Can't afford a whole new DH bike 😁
basically πŸ™‚

Look, grabbing a larger used rotor plus an adapter will probably run you maybe $150 or so.$67.
It’ll stay cooler and give you way better stopping power, but does anyone know how the fork is going to handle that extra leverage?
What kind of setup are you running on your bike right now?
Patrick King7 Patrick King7 Member
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joined Jan 2010
#11 ·
Charles Bailey45 said:Look, a used larger rotor plus an adapter will run you about 150 bucks $67.
Less heat soak, better stopping power, but the real question is if the fork can actually handle it.
What's currently on the bike?

It’ll handle it right up until it snaps 😁
Charles Bailey45 Charles Bailey45 Member
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joined Jan 2015
#12 ·
Patrick King7 said:they'll push it so hard they're going to snap it in no time 😁

I know, that’s exactly why I’m asking πŸ™‚
If we're talking about an XC bike with skinny legs (28/30mm), there is absolutely no point in even considering a larger rotor.
If it's beefier (though I seriously doubt it), then why not?
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2011
#13 ·
Charles Bailey45 said:Look, I know what I'm talking about, which is exactly why I'm asking. πŸ™‚
If you're running some entry-level SR/RST fork with those skinny little legsβ€”you know, the 28 or 30mm onesβ€”there's absolutely zero point even dreaming about a bigger rotor. It’s a waste of time.
If the setup was actually beefy enough to handle it (though honestly, I highly doubt it), then sure, why not?

It's just a Suntour XCR with 100mm travel. For what it is, it feels pretty solid. 😁
Charles Bailey45 Charles Bailey45 Member
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joined Jan 2015
#14 ·
nimblehound32 said:It’s an XC Suntour fork with 100mm of travel. Looks pretty solid to me. 😁

Look, I was checking out the official website for the XCM version:
max. disc diameter 185mm
But honestly? I wouldn't take the chance (that's just my two cents πŸ™‚)
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2011
#15 ·
Charles Bailey45 said:Look, if you check the official manufacturer specs for the XCM, they say:
max. disc diameter 185mm
but honestly, I wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole (that's just my two cents, obviously πŸ™‚)

Personally, I’d rather just swap in a bigger rotor and run hydraulics out back so I don't have to mess with the front setup.
Or is there actually some way to keep both the V-brake and the disc working on the rear without having to ditch one of them? 😁
nimblescout50 nimblescout50 Active Member
88 messages
joined May 2012
#16 ·
Look, V-brakes just can't cut it as a real substitute for disc brakes, especially when you're talking about an MTB!
jadetiger962 jadetiger962 Member
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joined Jun 2006
#17 ·
nimblehound32 said:I was wondering if this is actually normal behavior for brake rotors, and whether it’s okay to spray them down with water or something similar? I've seen all sorts of wild stuff on YouTube regarding overheating issues, so I'm a bit unsure.πŸ™‚

Thanks in advance πŸ™‚)

The single most important thing you need to learn here is just don't touch the rotors. 😬
Carl Sanchez4 Carl Sanchez4 Member
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joined Dec 2011
#18 ·
Who cares if it's running hot? It was engineered to run hot. Honestly, my engine cylinders get scorching enough that I don't even bother touching them, so I'm not particularly worried about it either. πŸ™‚
Dana Reyes5 Dana Reyes5 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#19 ·
jadetiger962 said:The only rule you really need to internalize is this: never touch the rotors. 😬

He learned that lesson the hard way, permanently.

nimblehound32 said:Those discs get incredibly hot, which means I touched one once and ended up with a nasty burn. 😲

))

nimblehound32, you can't take a bike out on terrain it wasn't built for and then act surprised when it doesn't perform perfectly.
Stick to lighter trails that actually suit your setup; trying to force a larger disc onto this rig might just snap your fork.
nimblehound32 nimblehound32 NewcomerOP
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joined Oct 2011
#20 ·
Dana Reyes5 said:he learned his lesson the hard way, once and for all

Look, nimblehound32, you can't just take a bike designed for casual pavement cruising and drag it through conditions it wasn't built for and then act shocked when it fails you. It’s basic physics.
Stick to smoother trails that actually suit the build. If you try to run a massive disc rotor on a setup like that, you're asking for a snapped fork.

Look, I’ve got plenty of experience riding downhill, off-road, cross-countryβ€”whatever you want to call it. I've been at this for years. My only real concern was how much heat those discs could handle.πŸ™‚

So, what? You're telling me the heat won't do anything? Like, if I'm constantly feathering the brakes or riding them hard, there's zero risk?πŸ™‚

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