Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

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Next goal draw no bet? You're living on the edge here.
Basically, you're betting on who scores next, but what happens if nobody scores at all? Do they refund your money or 🙂😕

Nah, you're basically paying twice for the bet 😉

I mean, it clearly says draw no bet 🤷

Does anyone know of a sportsbook that actually accepts deposits via WebMoney (http://www.wmtransfer.com/)?

Quick question about the handicap...

TEAM 1 (-1) 8.00

TEAM 2 (+1) 1.25

TIE 5.00

Let's say I'm leaning toward the first two, the Asian style. If one team wins by two, the bet hits. If they win by just one, you get your money back.

This tie option is tripping me up...

What does it actually mean? Who wins, when, and what scores trigger it? 🤷

p.s. quick follow-up, anyone here have experience with DraftKings, William Hill, BlueSquare, or SkyBet?

I'm using Bet365 right now and I'm pretty happy, but I want to branch out. I'm looking at those ones above—how are they regarding payouts, how they treat Americans, and any betting limits?

Thanks a lot

British bookies generally don't take kindly to players coming from the former Yugoslavia region, and you can expect to hit a limit pretty damn fast. Some of them will even cap you the second you open your account just because you fall into a "high-risk" category. Still, looking at this list, I’d say your best bet for cleaning them out is William Hill 🙂

Nicholas Palmer75 said:US bookmakers generally aren't fond of players from the North America—you can expect to hit account limits pretty quickly. Some outfits will even cap you the moment you open an account just because you fall into what they consider a "high-risk" demographic. That said, looking at this list, I'd say William Hill is where you'll make the most money. 🙂

Seriously?

Why exactly are we considered "high risk"?

goldenmaker32 said:Quick question about the handicap...

TEAM 1 (-1) 8.00

TEAM 2 (+1) 1.25

TIE 5.00

Let's say I'm betting on the Asian style. If there's a 2-goal difference, one bet wins. If it's just a 1-goal difference, I get my money back.

This draw option is tripping me up...

What does it actually mean? Who wins, when, and based on what scores? 🤷

If it ends 2:0 or 3:1 (a two-goal lead for TEAM 1), then TEAM 1 wins the bet.
If it’s a 1:1 or 0:0 draw, or if TEAM 2 wins, then TEAM 2 wins the bet.
If it ends 2:1 or 1:0 (a one-goal lead for TEAM 1), then the TIE wins.

If I totally missed the mark here, please set me straight.

Joshua Garcia8 said:If it ends 2:0 or 3:1 (a two-goal lead for TEAM 1), the winning bet is TEAM 1.
If it ends 1:1 or 0:0 (a draw) or if TEAM 2 wins, the winning bet is TEAM 2.
If it ends 2:1 or 1:0 (a one-goal lead for TEAM 1), the winning bet is TIE.

Let me know if I messed anything up.

Perfect, just what I needed to clear this up.
I had a feeling that "TIE" was basically just an X on a 0:1 scoreline, but seeing "winning margin" pop up alongside it confused me. I couldn't figure out why they'd offer the exact same thing twice... 🤣

Hold on, maybe you're actually right 🤦

Just give me a specific example, please. A sportsbook, a single bet.

Joshua Garcia8 said:Hold on, maybe you're actually right about 🤦

Just give me a straight answer—name a specific sportsbook or a specific bet.

http://www.bluesq.com/bet?action=go_event&ev_id=3573031

http://www.skybet.com/football/premi...ption-20909185

Hope you didn't place that bet yet, sorry for the rushed reply 😉

Handicaps usually set up the favorite; in this case, X hits if the favorite wins by just one goal.

Take LA Galaxy (+1) vs. Paris Saint-Germain (-1)—the Draw wins if PSG pulls it off by a single goal.
In an example like Aston Villa (-1) vs. Norwich City (+1), the -1 handicap Draw pays out if the home team wins by exactly one.

Joshua Garcia8 said:Hope you didn't put any money down yet. Sorry for the rushed reply. 😉

With a handicap, the Draw hits if the favorite wins by exactly one goal.

For example, if it's LA Galaxy (+1) vs. Paris Saint-Germain (-1), the Draw pays out if PSG wins by just one.
In an Aston Villa (-1) vs. Norwich City (+1) scenario, the -1 handicap Draw wins if the home team pulls off a one-goal victory.

That’s really all there is to it. It's the same logic, right? You haven't missed anything.
A winning margin of 1 for the side with the -1? 😁

James Taylor3 said:Are you serious?

Why are we considered "high risk"?

Probably because of some mafia fixing games and sending money in from overseas.🤷

That’s the only explanation that actually makes sense to me..

Ethan Jones5 said:It’s probably because some mafia outfit is fixing matches and placing bets from overseas.🤷
That seems to be the only explanation that actually makes sense...

The people pulling the strings definitely aren't using BetMGM or those other standard online books—they're likely dumping money into the Asian markets instead.

James Taylor3 said:Are you kidding me? Seriously?

Why exactly are we labeled "high risk"?

That’s just how people from around here are perceived over there. I don't know what their official excuse is, but it's obvious they aren't exactly thrilled when we start playing on their turf. For instance, when I first opened my DraftKings account, they slapped me with limits ranging from $25 to $60. You can't even place a bigger bet if you actually wanted to. Then there was my experience with BetMGM—formerly Victor Chandler—where they shut down my entire account after literally two bets of $100 each. Here's the proof.

23:15:07 : Robert - Call Center: Look, our Traders shut your account down. I'm going to double-check if you have anything left in your balance or any active bets hanging out there. Don't sweat the pending wagers—we’ll honor all of them and send whatever money is left back to whichever card or account you used to fund it.

Yeah, I've got money sitting in my account.

23:15:37 : Robert - Call Center: You’ve got xxx Euro sitting in your account, and we're gonna wire that right over to you.

23:15:52 : Robert - Call Center: And you don't have any open bets hanging around.

Yeah, exactly.

23:16:03 : : nothing on the board right now. No open bets.

Hey, can someone give me the lowdown? Why was my account shut down?

I’ve only put down two bets so far.

23:16:32 : Robert - Call Center: Look, this was a business move decided by our Traders. Period.

Look, I get it, I really do. But seriously? You’re calling it quits after only two bets?!?!

23:17:32 : Robert - Call Center: They aren't giving us a straight answer. All they'll say is that it’s a "business decision," which is basically corporate speak for "we don't want to tell you what's actually happening."

23:18:27 : Robert - Call Center: Look, they basically gave me the runaround. They’re claiming it was just a business decision, which is just corporate speak for "we don't want to."

Look, it doesn’t even have to be about you actually taking their money. You can be sitting there deep in the red, bleeding cash, and they’ll still slap you with a limit. I’ve seen this firsthand with Bet365—a buddy of mine was down massive, basically handing them money on a silver platter, and they still capped him out. Their excuse? Something along the lines of "we aren't interested in players like you." It’s the same old story with DraftKings, Stan James, and the rest of the crowd. They don't care if you're winning or losing; if they decide they're done with you, they're done.

Ethan Jones5 said:Probably just because of some mafia rigging matches and dumping foreign cash into them.🤷

That’s the only explanation that actually makes sense to me. Everything else is just noise.

All this talk about match-fixing and massive payouts at European bookies? It’s pure nonsense. Honestly, it makes zero sense. Look, BetMGM might let you drop a couple grand on the Champions League, sure. But if you’re trying to put big money down on some random league in the North America or anything similar? Forget it. You aren't getting more than $500 or $600 before they shut you down. What rustylynx25 was getting at is actually the real way it works. If you want to move serious cash on those types of games, you head toward the Asian markets. Some of that stuff is sketchy and illegal, while other places like DraftKings are totally legitimate. In that world, it’s all about having an agent. It’s basically like having a guy on speed dial; you call him up, tell him exactly what game you’re looking at and how much you want to ride, and he handles the transaction for you. If you're trying to go big, you don't just click a button—you essentially "order" the bet and sit around waiting for authorization. That's the game.

I've been using Bet365 for years now, betting on all sorts of stuff, and honestly, I’ve never once run into any kind of ban from the bookie. Not even once! I remember one time I actually nailed the exact score for that cup match between Steel-Zrinj—it was like 1-0 at halftime and ended 3-0, if I recall correctly—and they didn't give me any grief about the payout whatsoever.
The thing is, these places slap limits on certain games, like today's Zeljo-Slavija cup match. You can only put down maybe $900 on the home team and $50 on the away side. If you're looking to go big, you basically have to send a message to "Trader" 😁 to get authorization.

But man, some of the stuff in the Bet365 lineup is just straight-up ridiculous. Take this 2nd Division game happening tomorrow, Branitelj-Krajišnik... the max bet on the home team is $3600!!! Seriously, go check it out for yourselves... 🙂

Look, it all comes down to their own discretion. I know guys who play heavy and have already had two or three accounts flagged or closed, but then you’ve got these tiny players getting limited after just two weeks despite only putting down maybe $10 or $20.

Nicholas Palmer75 said:All this talk about match-fixing and betting huge sums at European bookies is just pure nonsense. Sure, BetMGM might let you drop 1 or 2k Euro on the Champions League, but if you try that on an American league or anything from the old North America region, you aren't getting past 500 or 600 Euro. Like what theinator said, those kinds of bets happen through Asian bookies—some are legal, some aren't, like DraftKings. They work by having your own agent there; you basically call them up, tell them how much you want on a specific game, and they handle the placement for you. If you want to go big, you have to "order" the bet and wait for authorization.

Look, I don't even gamble online, I was just thinking out loud here.😁

I wasn't taking a direct shot at you 😁 people just spout nonsense left and right without having the slightest clue how any of this actually works 😉