Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

Mark Bishop3 said:Is there a site out there that compares bookie odds and tracks their daily shifts? Also, which reliable online sportsbooks are actually worth using?

http://www.oddsportal.com/—you’ll find everything you need right there.
Honestly, you can't just stick to one sportsbook; it really comes down to what you're looking to bet on.
For singles, the Russ guys over at www.draftkings.com and http://draftkings.com/ have some killer odds, pretty much like http://www.pinnacle.com/. If you're looking for variety, www.bet365.com has the widest selection and is easily the best for live betting!
Then you've got www.betmgm.com, which occasionally carries stuff the others miss, and if you're more into exchange style bidding, you've got www.fandai.com.

Hey, sorry if people have already answered these questions days ago, but I just don't have the time to scroll through every single page right now. 🙂
So, specifically, I'm looking at BetMGM since they seem to have every sport covered. I was wondering if they allow larger stakes—something around 1,000 Euro—on singles with odds like 1.03 or similar. If they do, do they start limiting my bet amounts after a few tries? Has anyone here had a similar experience?

bluecrane172 said:Hey, sorry if these questions have already been answered elsewhere, I just don't have the time right now to scroll through every single page. 🙂
So, specifically, I'm looking at BetMGM since they cover basically every sport. I want to know if they allow larger bets (around $1,000) on singles with low odds, like 1.03 and stuff like that. If they do, will they start limiting my stakes after a few bets? Has anyone dealt with this before?

They won't limit you, just go for it! ☕

Why are you so obsessed with BetMGM anyway?
Use Google for once... you'll find plenty of info. People have all kinds of experiences out there.

bluecrane172 said:thanks 🙂 I just need to make sure they have all the sports and what I mentioned above. So far, BetMGM is the only one I've found that fits.

I wouldn't recommend BetMGM for any serious betting. Check out Sportsbook Review to see which books are actually top-tier—you can see all the complaints people have had there too.

Bryan Adams6 said:It won't hold you back, just go for it! ☕

I mean, why are you getting so worked up about BetMGM?
Maybe do a little Googling... you'll find plenty of stuff out there, people have all sorts of experiences.

Thanks 🙂 Honestly, I just care about having access to every sport imaginable along with what I mentioned earlier, and so far, BetMGM is the only place I've come across that has it all.

bluecrane172 said:Hey, sorry if these questions have already been answered somewhere—I just don't have the bandwidth right now to scroll through every single page here🙂
So, I'm specifically looking at BetMGM since they cover pretty much every sport under the sun. I want to know if they actually let you drop bigger amounts—say, around $1,000—on singles with tiny odds, like 1.03 and stuff like that. If they do, will they start hitting me with limits after a few bets? Has anyone else dealt with this?

With that kind of betting style, they aren't going to flag you for limits—unless you somehow trip one of their weird software algorithms and get auto-banned... which is its own headache. You might still run into limits depending on the leagues, the specific sports, or the type of bet you're placing (over/under, moneyline, spreads, specials, etc.). Of course, things might have shifted over the last couple of years, but generally, you could probably swing about $300-$500 on live bets for niche stuff like table tennis, or slightly more on pre-match bets. But honestly, if you're sticking to the big-name leagues and major sports, you should be able to drop a stake like that on low odds without any issues.

Walter Edwards said:They probably won't limit you just for playing that way, unless you hit some specific trigger in their software and get auto-banned... I guess limits can vary depending on the leagues, the sports, and the bet type (over/under, moneyline, spreads, specials, etc.). Things might have shifted a bit over the last few years, but maybe you could look at around 300-500 Euro live on niche stuff like table tennis, or pre-match bets on smaller markets. For the big leagues, you should be able to place a stake like that on low odds without much trouble.

The main ones for me are handball and basketball, so I'm hoping there won't be any issues there. 🙂

I’ve been placing my bets on BetMGM for quite some time now... though I dabble with other online sites too—mostly because their live streams and data are better...

I handle all my deposits and withdrawals through Chase...

But honestly, I've been getting a bit anxious lately thinking about how this might be against the law, or at least stuck in some legal gray area...

The penalties look massive—they can seize all your winnings plus hit an individual with a fine ranging from $1,500 to $7,500...

Does anyone here actually know if someone has been caught and punished yet? And maybe—if you're feeling generous—any tips on how to stay under the radar?

The whole ban feels almost ridiculous... I mean, there's this strict rule against advertising these foreign online sportsbooks, yet you see ads for them on every single street corner—I swear I even saw one on ABC! 🤷

From what I've gathered, even the tax authorities don't seem to fully wrap their heads around this mess...

I've used Bwin and Bet365 before; they're decent enough, but I can't stand waiting around for funds to actually hit my account. I rarely bother with them now because of that lag.

I also gave WWin a shot, but my experience there was far from great.
They tend to shave off your winnings. For instance, you might place a bet at 2.80 odds, only to find out during payout that after the official settlement, they've recalculated it at 2.60, leaving you a few dollars short.
In my opinion, it's amateur hour. My advice to everyone: steer clear of these guys.

Joshua Garcia8 said:Not the police, but I wouldn't be shocked if we got a letter from the IRS🙂

To work, you'd really need to be making regular, significant deposits into your checking account...

The issue is that the law is written so vaguely—it could honestly be interpreted any which way.

Anthony Perez55 said:To work, they’d need to be making regular, substantial transfers straight to a checking account...

The issue is the law is incredibly vague and open to just about any interpretation.

For now, yeah. But once this actually goes live and all the prerequisites are met (Social Security, IRS, etc.), then moving money from bookies to a checking account should be a breeze.

As for the law itself, it's clearly laid out (I've already shared the links), it's just not being enforced. 🙂

Joshua Garcia8 said:For now, yeah. But once everything is actually live—and they have all their ducks in a row with things like their tax ID and the treasury—they should be able to pull those sportsbook deposits straight into a checking account without any headache...

As for the law, it’s clearly laid out (I've already shared the links), but it just isn't being enforced properly 🙂

Could you please share those links again?
I was reading through the Law not too long ago, but either I missed something obvious or the whole thing felt pretty vague to me...

Anthony Perez55 said:Could you please send those links again?
I took a look at the Law recently, but either I'm just a bit slow or the whole thing was incredibly vague.

Hey, don't be an idiot—don't go insulting the other members here. 🙂
The payments through various channels were left unspoken. Online wallets.As for bank transfers to the sportsbook, nothing is left unsaid. Everything is laid out in black and white, yet nobody actually follows through.

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Joshua Garcia8 said:There you go, Eric Fox7 really hit the nail on the head with that one. 👍

Plus, you can't forget about the penalties hitting both the legal entities—meaning the folks actually calling the shots—and the individuals themselves.

Ali (we always have an "ali" here) anything's possible. Easygoing. Find a way to bypass direct deposits and withdrawals. Banks vs. the other side. So, using a bookie through an intermediary like DraftKings or PayPal basically means... Chase PayPal DraftKings.

The IRS might stick its nose in again if you move too much cash at once. If you drop a massive sum into your account—not sure what the exact threshold is—the banks and the Treasury get an alert. Then you're stuck explaining where the money came from or dealing with corporate tax questions. That’s why I never move big amounts in one go. Makes me wonder if the IRS actually has the legal right to come sniffing around like that. Digital wallets. Transaction statements and everything else...

Basically, it’s all one big gray area. The real question is what happens once we fully integrate into the European Union—specifically, what our politicians are actually going to decide. The EU basically left it up to individual member states to decide whether to approve or ban those offshore online betting sites that aren't officially registered in the country.
Since there’s this mandatory 5% fee being passed straight from the bookies to us—and given that the government is always scraping the bottom of the barrel for cash—I can't help but wonder about our tax ID system. It's still a bit of a mess. Is it possible they’ll just decide to turn this gray area into a black one? If they do, registration for anyone living in the US could be blocked on all those international online sites, just like how it works in other parts of Europe. We'd basically be stuck playing in the local sandbox, getting hit by that 5% fee (assuming they don't hike it up) plus whatever corporate tax they decide to slap on top. Great. Just great.

Here’s a snippet from the Law. Haven't reread the whole thing yet—running a bit short on time, so I might have missed something crucial.

Chapter IX. FOREIGN GAMBLING OPERATIONS
Article 68.
Not allowed:
Foreign operators running gambling games under Article 5 and prize games under Article 69 of this Law within the United States.
Participating in foreign gambling if the bets are being placed within the US.
3. Collecting roles within the US to participate in or pay for gambling games hosted abroad,
4. Selling, holding, business transfers, issuing, advertising, or any promotion of foreign gambling and prize games within the United States.
(2) This prohibition under item 4 of section 1 also applies to service providers and publishers.
(3) Individuals who do not hold American citizenship but are temporarily staying in the US are permitted to hold bets or winnings from foreign gambling games for their own personal participation.

(3) A fine ranging from $10,000.00 to $16667 will be imposed on any individual acting against the ban regarding foreign gambling (Article 68.).

Here’s the Law, I've looked through it along with the regulations attached to it, though I can't recall them all offhand 😢

Regarding the Gambling & Tax thread, we touched on this a bit—here is the link so take a look or drop a comment.

These posts really belong in the online betting thread, so I'll move them over there tonight.

Hey everyone. I’ve been betting for quite a while now and have plenty of experience under my belt, though I've strictly stuck to physical retail shops until recently. I’m starting to realize that moving things online would be much more efficient and profitable. However, there's a bit of a hurdle. Since I'm still pretty young, I don't have a bank account set up yet. Does anyone know if there's a sportsbook that allows you to deposit funds via Western Union? I know the age requirement is just being 18, which is easy enough. If anyone knows of a site that accepts Western Union transfers to credit an account, please let me know!

Greetings. I have been placing my bets online with SS for quite some time now, but I’ve hit a wall; they won't let me go beyond those 5% limits, which is frankly frustrating. Consequently, I am contemplating opening an account with an international provider. My betting strategy is fairly consistent—I focus about 90% of my action on football, specifically targeting the top six or seven major leagues with small parlays of two, three, or four legs. When it comes to market depth and variety, my preferences have always leaned toward Bet365 and BetMGM, yet I've noticed that Bet365 is rather stingy with bonuses for us mere mortals here in America. Furthermore, I seem to encounter a lot of negativity regarding BetMGM from most people; I find myself wondering why that is? Given the circumstances, what would you recommend? I am looking for a platform with competitive odds, extensive football markets, and, most importantly, one that won't limit my stakes to less than 700-800 Euro.

driftingcobra17, I suggest you check out DraftKings or DraftKings.

DraftKings has absolutely abysmal processing. Especially when you're trying to check your tickets.

Personally, I’m really digging DraftKings. The odds are solid and the way they handle everything is top-tier, though you might run into some annoying betting limits. For every single matchup, they lay out exactly how much you can put down right on the ticket. Take a quick look at their site, you might actually find it as slick as I do: https://www.marathonbet.com:443/en/home.htm

Look, I get it—it isn't all flashing lights and neon colors like those other sites, but honestly? That’s exactly why I love it. It's clean.

Does anyone here have some firsthand experience using the William Hill sportsbook?

Alright, so I have an account over at BetMGM, and I managed to land a certain amount... I guess... could someone please explain, in the most brief terms possible, how I go about transferring those funds directly to my checking account at HPB? 🤷

Thanks in advance! 😉

bluebison47 said:I've got an account over at BetMGM and I just hit a decent chunk of change. Can someone give me the quick and dirty on how to move this cash straight to my Chase checking account? 🤷

Thanks in advance! 😉

Pull it from DraftKings—basically PayPal—then move it from there into your foreign currency account at the bank.

Does anyone actually know what the minimum withdrawal limit is on Bet365 for winnings, or what the smallest stake they’ll even look at is? I’m thinking about switching bookies because this current one has started acting completely ridiculous...