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Brian Martinez7 Brian Martinez7 Member
13 messages
joined Jul 2011
#1101 ·
Hey
just a quick one for you guys:
Is it actually legal to bet on offshore sites? Like, can I just use my US bank account to fund them without any issues?
jadesailor jadesailor Newcomer
9 messages
joined Oct 2019
#1102 ·
Brian Martinez7 said:Hello,
I have just a quick question here:
Is it actually legal to place bets through foreign-based bookmakers? Specifically, is it permissible to process those payments while residing in the United States?

It has already been discussed that this occupies a certain gray area and that essentially it is not permitted.
Nicholas Palmer75 Nicholas Palmer75 Member
30 messages
joined May 2011
#1103 ·
Brian Martinez7 said:hey
just a quick one:
Is it actually legal to bet on offshore sites? Like, can you pull money from an American bank account for it?

Nope, not legal.
Terry Edwards6 Terry Edwards6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2010
#1104 ·
Using your bank to fund an account isn't exactly legal, and honestly, some banks won't even let you try. But if you stick to things like PayPal, Neteller, or Paysafe cards, you're totally fine.
Look, just placing bets isn't illegal itself.🙂
Once we fully integrate into the Eurozone, those restrictions on bank transfers should basically vanish since there won't be any more limits on how money moves around.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1105 ·
Terry Edwards6 said:It’s just not legal to do it through a standard bank—honestly, half the banks won't even let you try if they catch wind of what you're up to. But, if you stick to things like PayPal, Neteller, or using a Paysafecard, you're totally in the clear legally.
Look, let's get one thing straight—just placing a bet isn't illegal. It’s not like we're out here breaking the law just by putting some skin in the game. 🙂

It looks like you might have hit send a little too early there! I was just getting settled in, but I didn't catch the rest of your thought. What’s on your mind? 🤷

I’ve already written about this at least five times—honestly, I feel like a broken record at this point.

The Department of the Treasury said:X. FOREIGN LOTTERY GAMES

Article 68.

Here’s what’s off-limits:

If you’re sitting there in the States placing bets on foreign gambling sites—you know, using money that’s technically being wagered while physically located on American soil—then we're talking about participating in foreign gaming from within the US.

So, we’re looking at the second round of collecting roles in the States to get in on those sweepstakes being run overseas...

Selling, holding onto, leasing out, or even just running ads and general promotions for foreign scratch-off tickets and gambling cards anywhere within the United States.

I was just scrolling through some legal documentation regarding gambling regulations—specifically looking at the framework governing games of chance—and it really gets you thinking about how much oversight actually exists in this country. It’s one of those dense, dry subjects that most people skip over, but when you start digging into the fine print of how the government regulates betting and gaming, you realize just how massive the regulatory machine is. It’s all about keeping things "fair," or at least creating the illusion of fairness through a mountain of paperwork and strict licensing requirements. You have all these different layers of compliance that every operator has to jump through just to stay in business. It makes you wonder if the rules are actually there to protect the players, or if they're mostly just a way for the state to ensure its cut of the action stays steady. Anyway, I'm just rambling now. It's one of those topics where once you pull the thread, the whole thing starts to unravel. Just my two cents while I caffeinate.

I’ve been thinking about this whole situation—it’s one of those things that feels like it should be simple, right? But then you start peeling back the layers and realize just how messy it all gets. It’s a bit like trying to untangle a knot in a shoelace while wearing oven mitts—frustrating, slightly ridiculous, and ultimately a waste of good time if you don't have the right tools. Anyway, I was looking at what Brian Martinez7 mentioned earlier, and honestly, he's got a point there. There's a certain logic to it, even if it feels a little counterintuitive at first glance. It reminds me of those old debates we used to have about whether the Department of the Treasury should tighten its grip on certain sectors—always a heated topic, always plenty of opinions flying around. But then you have people like jadesailor who look at the same data and see something completely different. And can you blame them? Perspective is everything. It's easy to get caught up in one way of thinking, but if you step back—just for a second—you see the cracks in the argument. It’s funny, really. We spend so much time dissecting these tiny details, arguing over the nuances, and yet the big picture remains stubbornly out of reach. It’s a bit like watching a slow-motion replay of a game where everyone is arguing about whether the ball was out of bounds, while the actual play was something else entirely. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, per se. It’s just... well, it’s complicated. Much more complicated than the headlines would lead you to believe. If you want my two cents, I think we need to stop looking for easy answers and start asking better questions. That might sound a bit cliché, I know, but isn't it usually true?
Terry Edwards6 Terry Edwards6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2010
#1106 ·
as long as you're making those deposits while you're physically in the States

here’s where things get a little tricky

basically, you aren't sending cash straight from your local bank account here in the US to the sportsbook. instead, you'd use something like a Moneybookres—which isn't even a bookie itself, just a service based out of London. so, you move the funds from your US account to your London account first, and then you fund the sportsbook from there rather than directly from home.

that's the gray area right there.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1107 ·
Aha, there’s the catch. But you actually got it backward when you were saying betting isn't illegal 🙂
Terry Edwards6 Terry Edwards6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2010
#1108 ·
Honestly, it’s all going to go south anyway. Once we fully integrate into the EU, we’ll end up just like Germany, stuck with a measly 5% margin on all those online sportsbooks like DraftKings.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1109 ·
Oh, really? I hadn't realized that. I wonder how the other countries in the European Union handled their regulations for this kind of thing?
Terry Edwards6 Terry Edwards6 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2010
#1110 ·
It’s kind of wild how they haven't banned it because of those free movement laws, but they still slap you with a 5% tax right when you deposit—sort of like how local US betting shops operate here. I'm not totally sure about the situation over in Canada, though; I heard some rumors that their citizens can't even access online sportsbook sites at all. If I've got that wrong, someone please set me straight!
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1111 ·
Some countries have strict limits, if I recall correctly like in France where you can't bet with anyone except their own domestic books... and they're in the EU 😕

Hopefully nobody gets the bright idea to try that kind of nonsense here in the States 🙂
Joshua Garcia8 Joshua Garcia8 Member
11 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1112 ·
People have already touched on this earlier in the thread 😉

Terry Edwards6 said:It doesn't really matter anyway. If we join the EU, we'll end up just like Germany, with maybe a 5% tax on online sportsbooks.

Since they passed that law, does anyone have a link to it?

Every single EU member state gets to decide how they want to handle online betting. 😉
Walter Edwards Walter Edwards Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1113 ·
Bryan Adams6 said:some countries have all these restrictions, if I recall correctly like in France where you can't just jump between different sportsbooks—you're stuck with their specific ones... and they're part of the EU 😕

hopefully nobody gets the bright idea to try and pull a stunt like that here in the States 🙂

I was actually chatting with this guy from France recently who moved over to Malta just because of how they handle gambling taxes there. It was some crazy number, like 15% or something along those lines—honestly, I didn't even bother asking if he could bet on any sportsbook he wanted, since he's living in Malta now and couldn't care less about what's happening back in France...
Dana Flores3 Dana Flores3 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Oct 2010
#1114 ·
Anyone here used these guys before??
http://hr.10bet.com/?utm_source=http...utm_campaign=-

That $200 bonus looks pretty sweet to me. 🤔
northernpuma northernpuma Newcomer
1 message
joined Apr 2014
#1115 ·
Dana Flores3 said:Anyone have experience with these guys??
http://us.10bet.com/?utm_source=http...utm_campaign=-

That $200 offer looks seriously tempting to me. 🤔

Join 10Bet and snag a 50% Instant Welcome Bonus on your first deposit up to $200. How does it work? First, open a FREE account and deposit at least $15. Use promo code FD100 and we’ll toss in an extra 50% of your deposit up to $200. For example, if you deposit $20, we’ll add another $10 for FREE. If you deposit $400 or more, we’ll add $200.

The system is probably just like any other sportsbook—you've got to roll over that bonus a certain number of times at specific minimum odds.

EDIT - sorry, my bad, it actually is $200. 😁

And man, those terms and conditions are brutal.

If the wagering requirements for the bonus aren't met within 90 days of the deposit, the bonus balance will be lost.
The total wagered amount for both the deposit and the bonus must exceed 12x through sports betting before the bonus can be withdrawn.
To meet the wagering requirements, all bets must have minimum odds of 1.60. Asian handicap bets and Over/Under bets do not count toward the wagering requirements. The maximum contribution toward the wagering requirements for any single bet is 50% of the won bonus amount.
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1116 ·
Dana Flores3 said:Anyone actually dealt with these guys before??
http://us.draftkings.com/?utm_source=http...utm_campaign=-

That $200 bonus looks pretty sweet on paper 🤔

There are way better bonuses out there right now... this one is a total pain to actually clear. 🙂
Dana Flores3 Dana Flores3 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Oct 2010
#1117 ·
Total mafia move.

Bets on various Asian handicaps and over/under markets don't count toward turnover requirements.

That is just straight-up nonsense...
Who cares if I'm betting over/under or picking a winner? A bet is a bet, and the odds are the odds...

The stuff they make up is ridiculous.
James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1118 ·
Dana Flores3 said:this is just straight-up nonsense...
who cares if I'm betting the over/under or picking a side—a bet is a bet, and the odds are the odds...

it's all just ridiculous rules they make up

Damn, those are their terms—take it or leave it. 🤷

It's the exact same deal with Bet365; Asian handicaps and over/unders don't count toward your bonus rollover.
Gerald Jones56 Gerald Jones56 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1119 ·
Just a quick question for the group—if anyone happens to know off the top of their head, please speak up. Otherwise, I’ll spend some time digging around and circle back in a few days or so...

So, which sportsbook is currently offering the best bonus with the least amount of headache when it comes to clearing the wagering requirements?
Bryan Adams6 Bryan Adams6 Active Member
80 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1120 ·
Gerald Jones56 said:Quick question if anyone knows off the top of their head—if not, I'll dig around and post back in a few days or so...

So, which sportsbook is currently dropping the biggest bonus with the easiest rollover requirements?

FanDuel is doing 100% up to $100, but I haven't checked the fine print yet... probably won't touch it for now.

DraftKings has 100% up to $50, that's my top pick right now... 8x @ 1.50 before you can withdraw.

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