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James Taylor3 James Taylor3 Newcomer
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#41 ·
I think that’s a solid plan. 👍
Joshua Garcia8 Joshua Garcia8 Member
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#42 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:Sure, there will always be people like that, but at least fewer folks will waste their breath trying to explain why they're wrong so maybe they'll eventually get bored of posting nonsense. Their whole goal is just to get attention on the forum because they don't have anything else going on besides lurking online all day. Meanwhile, the rest of us could actually get useful info, which is impossible now when half the posts in a daily thread are just people bickering with idiots.

Man, what a sentence.🤣Anyway, not to drag this out—I could probably write a whole novel 🤣listing a million reasons why this would work, but if you guys think it won't make a difference, then I'm wasting my breath typing.🤷

Typing isn't pointless. 😉 We can give it a shot, I'm down, but I'm with Eric Fox7 on this—people will still find ways to ignore it.

Eric Fox7 said:Great idea, though I bet some geniuses would still find a way to ignore it.🙂


Here’s a perfect example of why I feel that way... look at that thread from Saturday where the very first post included a link about holiday hours for the local branches... right there in that thread, on page one, post number 24 is someone asking how long the lottery stores are open. Honestly, what can I even say? 🤷
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#43 ·
Joshua Garcia8 said:It’s not useless to type things out 😉 We can give it a shot, I have nothing against it, but I agree with Eric Fox7 that people will just keep ignoring stuff anyway.

Here is a specific reason why I feel that way... look at the thread from Saturday where the first post included a link about holiday hours for branch locations. In that exact thread, on the very first page, post number 24 is someone asking how long the lottery branches stay open. What am I even supposed to say to that? 🤷

Well, if some people have their settings set to 20 posts per page, maybe they wouldn't even see it 🤷

Regardless, it's progress. Only one person asked, even though that doesn't really have much to do with my point because one normal question isn't a huge deal, so don't drag out this entire pointless debate and fight over nothing and don't mess up the clarity of the daily thread, even if it puts a bit more pressure on you moderators since you've mentioned this a hundred times already 😍

That's why I'd suggest just putting links and rules in the sticky threads, but that's probably going too far in the other direction.

Anyway, I think we should at least try this because we have nothing to lose, and also, we should emphasize the last part of this post:
Joshua Garcia8 Joshua Garcia8 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#44 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:I guess some people have twenty posts per page set up, so maybe nobody even noticed.🤷

Anyway, it's progress. Only one person asked, though it's not really relevant to my point. A single decent question isn't the issue. It doesn't trigger a massive, useless argument or a fight, and it won't mess up the daily thread's layout, even if it puts a little more pressure on you moderators since you've brought it up so many times.😍

Personally, I’d just stick to links and rules in the pinned threads, but that’s probably going too far.

Long story short, I think we should at least give this a shot because there's nothing to lose. We should also emphasize the last part of this post.

Just saying—people tend to ignore stuff like this.😉

I went ahead and added some notes to the intro post in today's thread.🙂
It's a quick draft; we can finalize the actual text for the pinned posts later.

You've got a solid suggestion, Ethan Jones5. If it works out, you'll get two points for it.🙂
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#45 ·
Joshua Garcia8 said:I just wanted to point out that people tend to overlook stuff like this😉

I've added some notes to the opening post for today's thread 🙂
This was put together quickly; we can coordinate later on the specific wording we want to use for these intro posts.

Ethan Jones5, if you have a suggestion and it actually works, you'll get two points for it.🙂

Thanks for accepting my amendment🤣

Anyway, I'm hoping this proposal helps spark better discussions on this subforum and makes it easier for everyone to pick their best matchups without all the unnecessary stress.☕
shadowgardener10 shadowgardener10 Member
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#46 ·
Why did they wipe my tickets? One was from the daily thread, and then some guy crashed another one mid-way through. 😕
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 RegularOP
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joined Jul 2012
#47 ·
shadowgardener10 said:Why did they delete my slips? One was from the daily thread, and the other was from the thread where one pair totally wrecked my ticket. 😕

Because there's no way to tell if the bet actually went through.
shadowgardener10 shadowgardener10 Member
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#48 ·
Eric Fox7 said:Because you can't tell if the bet was actually paid for.

It shows. Look closer. It clearly says right at the top that the ticket is categorized as paid at a retail location.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 RegularOP
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#49 ·
shadowgardener10 said:It’s pretty obvious if you actually take a second to look. If you check the top, it clearly states the ticket falls under the category—specifically one placed at a physical retail location.

And just so we're all clear, the house rules are explicit about this: you have to be able to see those first three digits of the code.
shadowgardener10 shadowgardener10 Member
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joined Jan 2011
#50 ·
Eric Fox7 said:The rules state clearly that the first three digits of the code have to be visible.

Looking at the photo, it's obvious the bet was paid in person. I don't see any logical reason for them to void this. It shouldn't take a genius to realize why the code is covered—it’s just common sense, and it doesn't touch the legitimacy of the ticket, which is indisputable here.

Besides, isn't that rule specifically for online bets? My tickets are paid for at a physical branch, which is clearly shown in the image.
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 RegularOP
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#51 ·
shadowgardener10 said:Looking at the photo, it’s pretty obvious this bet was actually placed—I can't see any logical reason why it should be deleted. I assume I don't need to explain why I covered up the code, since that seems perfectly reasonable to me, provided it doesn't mess with the credibility of the ticket, which in this case, is beyond doubt.

But isn't that rule specifically for online bets?

Nah. Those first three numbers are enough to prove whether the bet went through or not (assuming it hasn't been photoshopped, of course—not talking about your specific ticket, just speaking generally here).
shadowgardener10 shadowgardener10 Member
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#52 ·
Eric Fox7 said:No. You just need those first three digits to prove whether a ticket was actually paid for or not (assuming it hasn't been photoshopped, obviously—I’m talking generally, not specifically about your screenshot).

Fine. Just explain the logic here. What's the point of that rule if my image clearly shows the bet was processed, even without those first three digits? If there's blatant proof the ticket is legit, why are you obsessing over those three numbers? Isn't it easier to just admit you missed that it was already marked as "paid" at the betting shop, rather than clinging to some nonsensical rule?

Look, I don't even care about the tickets. Both are losers and I have nothing to brag about; I only posted them because I'm frustrated over missing big parlays by a hair. But I really don't get your logic—if it's obvious the ticket was paid, why act like you didn't see it at first glance?
Eric Fox7 Eric Fox7 RegularOP
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#53 ·
Look, I really don't have the energy to go back and forth with you over rules that are pretty damn obvious—even if they feel a bit arbitrary sometimes. I didn't catch which category the ticket fell under because, frankly, I wasn't paying attention since you blacked out the entire code.

The rules aren't changing.

The end of the story.
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#54 ·
Just a quick bit of praise... if you bring back that frustration corner, you'll get some praise for that too.😉
Joshua Garcia8 Joshua Garcia8 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#55 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:Well, here's a little praise... just bring back that corner for venting frustrations and you might get some more compliments for that too.😉

That absolute screamer from Topal from 35 yards out.🙏

If it wasn't for all the disgusting garbage from certain idiots, they wouldn't have shut the corner down in the first place.
If they reopen it, there’ll just be more trash until we all clear out. Some people just don't know how to be creative and have zero boundaries, so this is probably for the best.😉
Ethan Jones5 Ethan Jones5 Active Member
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#56 ·
Joshua Garcia8 said:Give me a break, how am I supposed to know? I don't know what you're getting at. I said I was making an assumption, and an assumption is a far cry from knowing the facts. 🤷

My take is that everyone is just dumping all their frustrations onto other threads right now. It makes those topics impossible to follow because all you see is people venting about current results, and the actual important discussions get buried under the noise.🤷

That’s why the idea several people have already brought up makes total sense: bring back a dedicated vent thread and just moderate posts that cross the line. That way, the other topics stay clean and actually worth reading.
Joshua Garcia8 Joshua Garcia8 Member
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#57 ·
Ethan Jones5 said:I feel like everyone’s just dumping all their frustrations onto other people's threads now. It makes everything impossible to follow. You try to read about the actual game, but you just get hit with a wall of venting about recent results instead. The important stuff gets lost.🤷

That’s why it seems logical to me—like several others have suggested—to bring back a dedicated vent thread. If we just moderated posts that cross the line, other topics would stay much cleaner and easier to navigate.

I mentioned we'd pick this up tomorrow, but I totally blanked. My bad.

I agree with most of what you're saying, but Nicholas Chase34 and I already decided we aren't opening a vent thread right now.

It’s honestly because of the garbage some people were posting. Deleting or banning those posts isn't a perfect fix. I just looked through the last couple of pages (including the deleted ones), and for some of that stuff, I wouldn't just ban them—I'd call the cops. There was swearing, hate speech, the whole nine yards... some people really don't know where to draw the line.

I was actually the one who originally pushed for a thread like that, but it completely spiraled away from the purpose stated in the intro.
Lisa Ramos59 Lisa Ramos59 Member
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#58 ·
...Look, it’s a forum, and I think everyone is entitled to their own take as long as they stay within the lines and follow the rules. But if you want my honest opinion? This entire thread is a complete wash, whether we're talking about how things are being handled or just the general direction of everything else here..
Nicholas Chase34 Nicholas Chase34 Newcomer
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#59 ·
Lisa Ramos59 said:..it’s true, this is a community forum and I think everyone should be able to share their own take as long as they stay within the rules and don't go overboard, but personally, I feel like this specific thread is a bit of a swing and a miss, whether we're talking about how people navigate it or just the general vibe..

I'm right there with you, honestly, it would be way better if we could just open daily threads where you actually have to explain the logic behind your picks instead of just dumping a list of bets—kind of like how things run over at those big international boards like Reddit or specialized betting hubs—otherwise, the mods should probably step in with a warning or just clear out the posts. With the way things are being handled right now, the whole quality of the board is taking a hit and it makes it way harder for us to actually find solid pairings together.🤷
cosmicheron21 cosmicheron21 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Look, it’s true that we used to deal with a massive amount of useless filler back in the day, but at least things felt alive. People were actually talking, debating, making plans... and honestly, amidst all that noise, you could still sift through and find some genuinely solid picks.

Dammit, sometimes sheer volume is what actually breeds quality.🤷

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