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Is it hate speech or just a fact?

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granitefox16 granitefox16 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Stumbled onto this post by accident... why is this being labeled hate speech?
The guy's already banned too, and reading his complaint against the FBI, I don't even know who he is...

It's just generalizing and probably trolling, but calling it hate speech? If anyone can actually explain that, I'm all ears...
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
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joined Nov 2007
#2 ·
Since we don't have a specific category for dealing with blatant racism, I guess this is the next best thing
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
What kind of racism are we even talking about?

Racism is when people stay in their own little bubbles and dodge paying for electricity or water. Racism is catching the bus without a ticket... try pulling a stunt like that and see how long they let you keep talking...
That's what racism is.

The guy just stated a damn fact, but nowadays, if you say it out loud, everyone loses their minds...
granitefox16 granitefox16 Active MemberOP
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joined Jun 2024
#4 ·
Here’s his post, cut the first word because I’m not about that labeling business:

rude—fact
won't work—fact
wants to steal—fact
violent (especially at home)—fact, they beat kids into being brain-dead
won't learn or listen—absolutely not
laws don't apply to me—fact, I already mentioned that above
needs handouts—spot on, how many charities are even running these things?
demands equal respect—false, I won't and I never will, with maybe a few exceptions

If this counts as hate speech, then ban me too. And honestly, I’d reward all you people so terrified of "their rights" by moving their encampments right onto your front lawn. You could enjoy the daily screaming, the stray dogs making it impossible to let your kids play in the street, them burning wires under those beautiful black clouds of smoke and unbearable stench, trash everywhere, Hepatitis A...
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
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#5 ·
So, basically, you’re saying if someone fits certain traits, they automatically belong to that group? Is that how this works?
And look, I’m sorry, but trying to lump an entire massive demographic into one single label like that is nothing more than textbook racism and hate speech.
It’s the same tired logic used when people claim Southerners are lazy, folks from the Midwest are dim-witted, New Yorkers are arrogant, or Black Americans are... well, whatever other garbage stereotypes people throw around to be hateful.

I honestly don't see what the point of all this public moralizing is for us Americans.
As if we all have halos floating over our heads just because we exist.
Michelle Palmer6 Michelle Palmer6 Regular
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#6 ·
Pure chaos!
Alex Cook Alex Cook Active Member
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joined May 2009
#7 ·
:Mamić:
hollowdriver18 hollowdriver18 Active Member
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#8 ·
hey hollowtrucker77 😳

If I actually had the power, I’d hand you a blank check right now just for the sheer joy of trolling you 🥳

😁

But since I don't have 😢... I guess I'll just ask this instead: when you get a second, maybe take a look at this incredibly "educational" thread? It might be worth adding some input—specifically regarding the various mods—so we can eventually consider whether applying the same criteria mentioned and practiced here to them wouldn't be a pretty decent idea 😁

Thanks 😍

: offside republic: 🙂
placidfalcon4 placidfalcon4 Member
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#9 ·
So he blew 500 points just because of this?🤦

Thieves, absolute thieves 🏟️
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#10 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:So, you're saying if someone belongs to that group, those traits just automatically apply?

Pretty much.🙂 Look, I'm not trying to generalize, but in their case, it doesn't matter how you slice it—you couldn't find ten honest people from that community in the entire country...

hollowtrucker77 said:Just like how Southerners are lazy, New Yorkers are stuck-up, folks from the Midwest are dumb, or certain racial groups are stinky...

And what, are we handing out bans for this now? Is this some new directive since I've been gone or what? It drives me absolutely insane when everyone tries to act holier-than-thou with all this moralizing and banning stuff.🤮 Saying that certain people steal is "racism" and "hate speech" now? Give me a freaking break...🤣 Give me a break, seriously...

If I reported every single post where people call me an idiot, a loser, or a piece of trash, that would be racism too, right? Even though I actually kind of enjoy being called a loser.😍
Let's be clear here: I don't give a damn about the bans or even Ed (more or less😍), but this whole thing is a total joke and pure stupidity. If they actually applied these rules using the examples you just gave, half the users on this site would be getting banned by the FBI every seven days...
Go ahead, ban me for 500 points so I can get a seven-day break from these morons. If "that group steals" counts as racism worth 500 points, holy crap, thank God it isn't 1000!🤦
blueridge32 blueridge32 Active Member
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#11 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:just like how Southerners are lazy, Midwesterners are dumb, New Yorkers are bloodthirsty, folks from the South smell, and people from LA think they're better than everyone else...

Yeah, sure, but I haven't seen anyone actually get slapped with a 500-point penalty for that yet.🤷

EDIT:
Looks like boldhound8 just passed me up!
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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#12 ·
blueridge32 said:yeah, but I haven't seen anyone actually hit a 500-point penalty for that yet🤷

EDIT:
looks like boldhound8 just passed me

man, I've finally had enough too. it’s not just like one sketchy post and then you're done.
and granitefox16 with that whole annoying routine about how "what the hell, facts matter"—as if that helps anyone when they're trying to write an actual appeal. ☕
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
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#13 ·
honestly, if we’re gonna be this "strict" about it, maybe we should start handing out citations just for using the word gypsy. That’s racism too, right? They’re Roma, after all.

yeah 500 🤦🤣
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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#14 ·
Pretty much. But look, let's not overcomplicate things here. And honestly, why is everyone tripping over that 500 number? The guy was just acting like a total clown, and I don't really care if he got banned before for the same tone or whatever. It’s just my way of getting rid of him.
That's pretty much it. I'm not trying to sit here and lecture anyone on how to talk about people or anything.
Matthew Anderson4 Matthew Anderson4 Regular
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#15 ·
Hannah Davis18 said:pretty much. but let's not get carried away. and why is everyone tripping over the "500" thing? the guy was acting out and honestly, the fact he got banned before for the exact same tone and style just gives me an easy way to get rid of him.
that's all there is to it. I'm not trying to give anyone a lecture on how not to talk about people.

🤣
man, feels like you can't even call someone an idiot anymore without making a scene🤷.
placidfalcon4 placidfalcon4 Member
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#16 ·
Hannah Davis18 said:Give me a break—I’ve had enough too. It isn't just one controversial post and then we're done.
And granitefox16 with that little fairy tale about "what the hell are facts"—as if that actually helps anyone when they're trying to write a formal complaint. ☕

A single controversial post worth 500 points.🙏 Whatever you think you're "collecting" deep down in your soul isn't documented anywhere.

What a load of hate speech. The guy drops a few facts that most people in this country agree with, and suddenly half the forum is signing off on it.

People are just lazy.

Just ban them all.🙄
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
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#17 ·
I can't even count how many times I've read those old stereotypes about people from the South—how they're supposedly lazy, or always howling and complaining, or just total workhorses... honestly, I'm not a fan of those labels at all, though I know boldhound8 😛 might disagree... it's all just noise, really, and you can't find any actual substance to back it up... 🤦
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#18 ·
Hannah Davis18 said:Pretty much. But let’s not split hairs here. And why is everyone freaking out over the number 500? Look, the guy was just acting out, and the fact that he got banned before for the exact same tone and garbage writing is my ticket to get rid of him.
That’s the end of it. I’m not about to sit here and try to teach anyone how to talk about people properly.

Personally, I find this whole thread way more interesting—especially the admin's explanation for the ban—than your specific case, since you clearly don't know the history of his posts on Reddit or wherever else, so you're totally missing the big picture.🙂
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#19 ·
boldhound8 said:I’m honestly more fascinated by this whole thread than the actual topic itself. But even more than that, I’m digging the admin’s breakdown of it. It’s way more interesting than your take, mostly because you clearly don't know the history here or what his past posts on Reddit or wherever look like. You just don't have the full picture, I guess.🙂

Go ahead and get obsessed with whatever you want. I guess it doesn't really matter.
Some idiot who actually thinks they can just call someone an idiot to their face and act like it's fine... whatever. Peace out. 😍
Look, I'm not taking back what I said. tanki7 has an incredible squad backing him up—so honestly, I don't even care if that ban was totally bogus. 🙂
blueridge32 blueridge32 Active Member
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#20 ·
Pretty sure we were mostly talking about Edge's cardboard here, right?

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