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Hormone Replacement Therapy and cancer risk

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Jose Williams78 Jose Williams78 MemberOP
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So, I just found out my neighbor—this incredibly sweet, bubbly, active woman who always seemed to be bursting with health—is dying of cancer. It hit her out of nowhere, apparently. By the time they actually figured out what was going on, the cancer had already metastasized so much there wasn't anything left to do. She’d been on hormone replacement therapy for the last few years, and she used to swear by it, saying she felt better than ever while taking it.

It made me think back to some studies I read a few years ago over in Germany. There was actual scientific evidence showing that HRT significantly bumps up cancer mortality rates, which led their healthcare system to overhaul their recommendations. I started digging into the research myself... it covers several types of cancer, like uterine, ovarian, breast, colon, and lung. The increased risk ranges from maybe 25% to, I don't know, even over 80% in some cases.

I guess I’m not quite at the stage where I need to worry about this for myself yet, but that day will come eventually—maybe sooner than I’d like. I’m curious, though... are any of you currently on that kind of therapy? And how exactly did your gynecologists pitch the pros and cons to you? Did they actually bother to warn you about the potential risks or consequences?

When you're reading studies, it's all just numbers and statistics on a page. But when it's someone you've known for years, it's more than just sadness. I feel this heavy sense of resentment toward how poorly the public is being informed.
ruggedscout91 ruggedscout91 Active Member
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Following a total hysterectomy and adnexectomy due to a massive fibroid—a situation my OB-GYN in Chicago neglected until it was too late—I have turned to red clover phytoestrogens. These supplements contain four primary phytoestrogenic compounds that mimic estrogen. They work by occupying receptor sites before natural estrogens or those introduced through poor diet and environmental toxins can reach them, specifically targeting the organs most vulnerable to prolonged estrogen exposure. In essence, they act as antiestrogens while still fulfilling necessary estrogenic roles.
However, red clover contains trace amounts of acetylsalicylic acid and coumarin. This isn't inherently dangerous, provided there is no interaction with blood thinners or similar medications.
I am wary of taking HRT, and frankly, none of my doctors since the surgery have made any effort to explain it to me, nor does it seem to be a priority for them.
I suppose I have an advantage since I no longer have the organs that could trigger recurring issues or necessitate traditional hormone replacement therapy. Regardless, I am satisfied with the red clover. Even in this forced postmenopausal state—perhaps feeling like I'm a year older tonight—my libido remains excellent. No one would guess my age; I feel about 10 to 12 years younger than I actually am. My hair remains thick, shiny, and healthy. I stay active, eat everything from vegetables and meat to mushrooms, and live a full life. I take care of myself, and quite simply, I enjoy living.

As for the pharmaceutical industry, their only metric is moving product. They don't care if what they sell is biodegradable, toxic, or even fatal. Take it, pay for it, and deal with the consequences. That is their mantra.
In America, much like the doctors here, they aren't particularly concerned with what happens to women in the long run.
Just look at the history of vaccines. Consider the substances used in certain shots, much like what was administered to soldiers during the Gulf War, which allegedly caused roughly 300,000 service members to develop various types of cancer.
One must realize that menopause and postmenopause are natural biological processes. If God intended for women to remain fertile until age 100, He would have designed our hormones to last that long.
Now, everyone is obsessed with looking twenty. The film and fashion industries constantly promote women who rely on Botox and heavy retouching. When you see these people in real life, without the heavy cosmetics and surgical tightening, the reality is jarring. Even our local socialites—if you can call them that—often struggle with sagging skin and thinning hair.
My husband has often asked me, with genuine confusion, how they can pursue such professions when they look worse than I do, both in face and body.

Do not be lured onto thin ice just to risk cancer for a few years of perceived youth.
Even bone density testing feels like a modern invention to address a problem created by neglect. It is common knowledge that proper nutrition and natural hormonal function are vital from early adulthood onward. By the time many women realize they haven't been eating properly, it is often too late to fix bone loss with calcium supplements or medication. Calcium is difficult to absorb once the body begins to decline. We all have an expiration date.
Furthermore, women who were sedentary in their youth often suffer much greater bone and muscle mass loss later in life.
The solution is simple: focus on nutrition (not just dieting, but optimal nutrient intake), exercise regularly, maintain a healthy sex life, and purge anything from your system that causes problems—whether physical or otherwise.

Forgive the length of this post.
Jose Williams78 Jose Williams78 MemberOP
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#3 ·
A neighbor passed away... 🙂

My mom was telling me about another acquaintance of hers who died from breast cancer pretty shortly after finishing up hormone replacement therapy. She never really connected the dots before, though, because she didn't realize there might be a correlation.

says:
I take red clover phytoestrogens, which have effects similar to estrogen

So, what’s the actual difference between phytoestrogens and actual hormones? I read somewhere that soy and flax also contain phytoestrogens. My gut tells me it's hard for something natural to do as much damage as synthetic chemicals, but I wonder if, say, consuming massive amounts of soy could also increase the risk of things like breast cancer.

says:
When it comes to Big Pharma, all they care about is moving product and hitting sales targets. They don't give a damn if what they're selling is biodegradable, toxic, or even fatal. Just buy it, pay for it, and deal with the fallout. That's basically their motto.
And honestly, along with the doctors here in the States, they don't seem to care one bit what happens to women.
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Sorry for the long rant.

I mean, you hit the nail on the head. It’s just depressing when you think about how many people die for the sake of "their own well-being" (or at least that's the lie they're sold), when it's really just someone else's profit margin. It's heavy stuff.

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