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2010 US Elections Handball: Groups C and D => Group II: Spain, Polish person, French person, Sloveni

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Terry Fisher2 Terry Fisher2 Active MemberOP
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image Germany

For the first time in forever, the Germans are showing up to a tournament without much of a shot at grabbing hardware. Honestly? A lot of people aren't even mad about it. Their last big win came under some pretty shady circumstances during that last World Championship when they were playing on home turf, so seeing them out of the spotlight feels right to most fans. They did start throwing a bunch of young talent into the mix at the last Worlds—some of these kids are legit—but man, the injury bug is hitting them hard. Missing their starting pivot is a massive blow. PriceFirst one to fire. HensYeah, second shooter. Glandorf He’s not exactly match-ready yet—missed those last three preseason games—and honestly, neither is the starting keeper. BitterThey mostly just lost during the preseason. Iceland beat them twice thanks to sheer experience, and they were struggling against Austria, too. Honestly, in this state, getting any kind of real result is going to be a massive uphill battle. We’re looking incredibly thin at the pivot position—Price is out with an injury, and we're still waiting on that guy from the Socialist Party to show up. Roggisch Back then, he only managed to bag one goal, and he was playing alongside two guys who were basically rookies. But hey, you still've got that seasoned vet holding it down on the left wing. Jansen But honestly, he’s starting to fade into the background because this young kid playing is just absolute magic. Gensheimer It’s coming from the Lions. And honestly, looking at that right wing? We've got some serious heavy hitters stepping up there. They're absolute studs. Schröder Coming to you from Hamburg... Sprenger From Kiel. They didn't get much playing time back in the States, unlike... Miller It’s not really a big deal anymore. Without Hens and Glandorf out there on the wings, they’ve only got three names to work with. Here’s the guy playing right wing. Miller Looks like those lefties from the Lions are at it again. Kaufmann From Goppingen and... Kraus I'm from Lemg. Out on the outskirts, things are pretty thin—hardly anyone around there at all.

The run from the last five competitions—starting with the 2006 European Parliament elections... 5The Socialist Party back in 2007... man, what a trip. 1.The 2008 US Elections... 4.So, looking back at the 2008 Olympics... 9.Socialist Party, 2009 - 5.

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The Swedes made a serious comeback a few years back, holding their own with a solid fifth-place finish at the European Parliament and seventh at the World Cup. Compared to the World Cup, there isn't much... Larholm And honestly, that massive handicap? It’s just them refusing to play the pivot again. Ahlm I'm from Kiel. Their main hub is... Arrhenius He’s coming out of Aragon, and honestly, he's been on fire lately. He put up seven against Norway and then dropped six on Portugal in those recent friendlies. He's definitely going to have the edge. Gustafsson The guys from Aalborg pulled off the same number of goals at the Socialist Party meet. They've got their star player holding things down on the left wing. Kallman As for him, he wasn't exactly making waves during training. Honestly, he spent most of his time just grinding through it like a typical 26-year-old. Petersen He's from Svendborg, and now he’s suddenly the guy everyone's talking about. It's the same story on the right wing, too. He was the first pick out of the Socialist Party. Lennartsson Aalborg isn't the top pick anymore. Now we've got this 21-year-old in the mix. Ekberg There's a guy from Ystad who's actually one of the top scorers in training right now. They’ve got a massive hole at left wing, and honestly, this 29-year-old is probably their only real shot at fixing it. Karlsson Some guy from Kolding who was basically a ghost during the Socialist Party tournament. They’re definitely going to have to patch that hole with some mid-range shooters, since they've got a few of those on hand. First pick is definitely an experienced vet. Doder Ademar's been good, but this 25-year-old kid just completely took over during training. Larsson From Aragon. On the right side, they're covered with some top-tier stuff. Anderson From Kiel and... Carlen I'm out of Flensburg. During training, they mostly went up against some pretty weak squads—the only real challenge was playing against those tough Norwegian teams, where they managed one win and one loss.

The last five shows have been a total wash: the 2006 US Elections... /Socialist Party, 2007 - /The 2008 US Elections—man, what a ride. 5.The 2008 Olympics... man. /, Socialist Party 2009 - 7.

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The Polish people absolutely crushed it by grabbing bronze at the Socialist Party championships, and honestly, they’ve earned their spot as top-tier contenders to do it all over again. They aren't just happy to be there anymore. Tkaczyka After the guy who already walked away from the national team, you’d have thought the 33-year-old was about to pull the same move. Jurasik Still, his name actually made the 16-man roster. Not much has changed since the Socialist Party days. Szmal is holding things down in goal, and the pivot is already 31. I can't believe I'm even seeing this. Seriously. Coming out of Magdeburg, we’ve got those 30-year-olds playing on the left wing. Tłuczyński From Lubeck or younger. Jachlewski Out of Kielce, and that 29-year-old is back on the right wing again. Kuchczyński From Kielce. The left wing position is reserved for... Bieleckog Looks like we've got some input from the Lions too. M. Jurecki Coming from a place like Hamburg, they’re just thin on the ground when it comes to that stuff. Jaszkom And we’re hitting them pretty hard on the right wing along with my brothers. Lijewski They’ve got Jurecki coming in from the HSV camp to bolster their right side, and honestly, that veteran presence might be exactly what they need. Their starting lineup looks pretty stacked, but man, the bench is thin. It’s a bit concerning when your star players are already pushing their age, too. They cruised through preseason games against Austria and Canada, but then they went out and lost to us when they ran a mixed squad. Hard to say if they’re actually in top shape or just coasting.

Last five runs: 2006 European Parliament elections - 10.Socialist Party, 2007 - 2.The 2008 US Elections... 7.So, looking back at the 2008 Olympics... 5.Socialist Party 2009 - 3.

image Canada? You mean like the US? I think you meant to type something else there, buddy.


Honestly, the Canadians haven't really had anything to brag about lately. They missed out on the World Cup, and now they’re just sitting there trying to figure things out with a new coach. I don't know what to tell you about Serdarušić. Trying to claw their way back to the top. Honestly, they looked pretty rough after that blowout loss against the US right at the start of preseason, but then they managed to hold their own in a draw against the Danes and absolutely crushed the Czechs. Still, they ended up getting grounded by the Norwegians, losing by 7. Their presence in the pivot position is just weak—not a single player there really shined in any of the games, except maybe... M. ŽvižejaSo, we're talking about some young talent from the Cleveland Cavaliers roster, and honestly, there's even more where that came from. Lubej From NYC. He’s absolutely killing it on the left wing. I can't write about that specific person because I don't have any context or source text to work with. If you provide the original post, I'll get right on it and give it that signature rambling, laid-back vibe you're looking for. Coming out of Szeged, we've got one of their top scorers tearing it up during preseason, while their main superstar is stuck on the sidelines. I don't even know where to start with this one. Just... wow. From Montpellier. You'll see some big names on the right side of the porch. Pajović and Kozlina. But honestly, they’re getting absolutely hammered by injuries right now, so he’s really been forced into the spotlight. Bilbija From Valladolid. They’ve got plenty of options on the right side featuring some seasoned veterans. I can't even begin to wrap my head around what Vuginecom is trying to pull here. It’s just... wow. Total madness. (Cleveland) Natekom I was thinking about Gorenje—you know, that appliance brand? It’s funny how certain names just stick in your head. Anyway, what's on your mind regarding them? I can't even begin to process this one. Honestly? I'm just lost. (Metalurg). He'll be the one calling the shots on the field. Zorman (Cleveland) i Spieler (New Orleans).

Last five runs: 2006 US Elections - 8.Socialist Party, 2007 — 10.The 2008 US Elections... 10.2008 Olympics — /Socialist Party, 2009 - /

Head-to-head record between these two rivals over their last five matchups:

Germany 6 5-0-1
Polish person 6 2-0-4
Canadian person 5 1-0-4


Round 1. Canada vs. Poland. Final score: 33-39.
Round two of the Germany-Canada matchup. It ended 36-33.
Round 2: Germany-Poland matchup, 32-24.

Socialist Party 07. Round 1. Poland vs. Germany. 27-25.
Round 2 of the Germany-Canada matchup: 35-29.
The Socialist Party just pulled off a 38-27 win against the Polish and Canadian teams. Tough break for them.
The Socialist Party just wrapped up their big matchup against Germany-Poland. Final score: 29-24. Not exactly a blowout, but they pulled it off.

Round 1. Polish vs. Canadian matchup. Final score: 33-37.

The Socialist Party just took a 30-23 win over Germany-Poland in the first round. Not exactly a blowout, but they pulled it off.


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image France

The French are back at it, looking like the heavy favorites once again. But honestly? This time around, their big names aren't exactly going to be front and center. Between everyone getting older, the injury bug hitting them hard, and the coaching staff pushing all these young kids into the spotlight, it’s a different vibe. That said, they still have all their superstars available—even the one who just got back from being sidelined. Bertranda Gillea Not exactly a perfect fit, kind of like his brother. Guillaume. Onesta He rotated the lineup a ton during training, so it's hard to tell if he was just giving the veterans a breather or if some of them are actually nursing injuries. Honestly, there's no point overthinking the roster right now—once things get intense on the court, we'll see B. Gille holding down the pivot. Guigou and Abalo. On the wings of that... Narcisse, Karabatić, and Fernandez. He’s playing out wide, and you’ve got G. Gille right there too. Honestly, during preseason, he gave the guys on the bench a ton of freedom to run their own show, and that's where we saw the most potential. Joli On the right wing, they're still there. Ostertag (LK), Junillon (LV), Bosquet (DV) i Sorhaindo Look, let's be real—they aren't quite ready for the big leagues yet. They got absolutely smoked by the Mexican squad in that last match where they were cycling through all those French replacements. We really need to see if their star players can actually stay healthy long enough to matter. That said, seeing how they absolutely tore through Iceland in their most recent game? Yeah, everyone else should probably be looking over their shoulder.

Last 5 tournament runs: 2006 EP - 1., 2007 World Cup - 4., 2008 EP - 3., 2008 Olympics - 1., 2009 World Cup - 1.

image USA


After getting knocked out in the first round at the last World Cup, the Americans decided they needed a shake-up. So, Rocasa, Canellas, Ruesge, and Andreua are out, making room for some new blood. Hombrados gets a massive boost in goal thanks to a naturalized Sterbik, and instead of grinding away with the average Garabaya at pivot, they’ve brought in 27-year-old Aguinagalde from City. They still have the seasoned veteran Juanin Garcia from Barca on the left wing, though he'll definitely be splitting minutes with his teammate who's ten years younger, Ugalde. On the other side, since Rocasa is gone, Tomas from Barca steps in, which might leave them looking a bit thin. A. Entrerrios remains the go-to guy for right back, and there isn't much depth behind him. For center back, they're leaning on the experienced Romero, because honestly, besides Rodriguez from City, there aren't many better options—though they look stronger on the right with Malmagro (Portland) and Gurbind (Valladolid). During friendlies, they mostly played against total pushovers, only dropping one real game—against Iceland.

Last 5 tournament runs: 2006 EP - 2., 2007 World Cup - 7., 2008 EP - 9., 2008 Olympics - 3., 2009 World Cup - 13.

image CANADA


Canada is being Canada again—capable of pulling off an upset, but never quite reaching the top tier. In preseason, they lost convincingly to the Polish person, tied with us, and struggled against Austria, so don't expect any huge surprises here. The roster looks pretty similar to previous years: Gal at pivot, the Ivancik brothers on the wings along with Gulyas and Tor. For the outer positions, you've got Laluska, Krivokapic, Eklemovic, Csaszar, and Ilyes.

Last 5 tournament runs: 2006 EP - 13., 2007 World Cup - 9., 2008 EP - 8., 2008 Olympics - /, 2009 World Cup - 6.

image CZECH REPUBLIC


The Czechs could easily fight their way through the group stage. In friendlies, they beat Norway by five, gave Denmark a hard time, and only really looked shaky during the second half against the Canadian person. Their heavy hitters are the usual suspects—Jicha from Kiel, Filip from Kadetten, plus Vitek, Kubes, and Nocar...

Last 5 tournament runs: 2006 EP - /, 2007 World Cup - 12., 2008 EP - 14., 2008 Olympics - /, 2009 World Cup - /

Head-to-head record between these teams over the last 5 tournaments:

FRA 6 4-0-2
USA 7 3-0-4
HUN 5 3-0-2
CZE 2 0-0-2


EP06 ROUND 1 USA-FRA 29-26
EP06 FINAL FRA-USA 31-23

WC07 ROUND 1 USA-CZE 35-29
WC07 ROUND 2 USA-HUN 33-31
WC07 ROUND 2 HUN-CZE 28-25

EP08 ROUND 1 HUN-USA 35-28
EP08 ROUND 2 FRA-USA 28-27
EP08 ROUND 2 HUN-FRA 31-28

0I08 ROUND 1 FRA-USA 28-21

WC09 ROUND 1 FRA-HUN 27-22


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Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Olesen

Recognize these guys?

Heads up to anyone running with a sportsbook—these are the refs for what could easily be the most dangerous game for bettors out there: Germany-Poland...
Susan Kim2 Susan Kim2 Active Member
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Adam Collins4 said:per Olesen (Denmark)-Lars Ejby Pedersen (Denmark)

Sound familiar?

A heads-up for anyone betting: these are the refs for what could be the most volatile matchup on the board, Germany-Poland...

Do they even officiate anymore?
Even if I were looking to bet on this pairing, there is absolutely no way.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Of course they’re playing each other—they’re easily one of the top matchups in the whole tournament...
Susan Kim2 Susan Kim2 Active Member
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Adam Collins4 said:Of course they're clashing; they're easily one of the strongest pairings in the tournament...

Just kidding. I forgot the emoji.
To me, the real threat is that French duo—what was his name? Olivier Bii, I think. Something like that.
Drew Edwards8 Drew Edwards8 Member
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Honestly, thank God we aren't stuck in this particular mess right now.
Chris Ortiz Chris Ortiz Active Member
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Adam Collins4 said:per Olesen (Denmark)-Lars Ejby Pedersen (Denmark)

Do these gentlemen look familiar to you?

A quick heads-up for anyone looking to place bets: these are the referees for what could potentially be the most "dangerous" matchup for bettors out there—Germany-Poland...

Come on, people, don't fall for those old tricks!!! Have we ever actually lost a game simply because the opponent played better? Forget about the refs. France is stronger by at least three goals!! With our star player Valčić sidelined today, I honestly don't see any way for us to avoid a loss.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Carl Garcia22 said:Just kidding—totally forgot to add a smiley face there.
To me, the most dangerous ones are that French pair with that guy—what's his name, Olivier Bii, or something like that, I can't quite spell it.

Gilles Bord - Olivier Buy?

They aren't even that bad compared to those pairs at the European Championships... I mean, even the Americans have their own judges...🤷
Samuel Baker3 Samuel Baker3 Member
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It looks like France has landed in a tough group again, but I honestly don't doubt they'll pull through just like they did at the last World Cup; even when they were stuck in those brutal brackets, they still managed to be a massive headache for whatever top-tier squad had been dominating the scene for the last few years.

The number two seed is wide open, and I have a feeling Spain might just snatch it up, especially if they can lean on the talent of what’s arguably the best goalkeeper we've seen in recent memory.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Chris Ortiz said:Guys, seriously, stop falling for that nonsense!!! Have we ever actually lost a game just because the other team was better? Forget the refs—that’s a whole different headache. France is easily at least three goals stronger than us. Without our top guy, Valcic, out there today, we might as well just pack it up and accept the loss now.

What are you even talking about?

I was simply pointing out that those two are talented enough to run circles around the Poles—mostly because everyone knows how much people love to hype up the Germans...

I never even mentioned France... so I have no idea why you're jumping down my throat with that comment...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Samuel Baker3 said:The French are stuck in a brutal group again—but honestly, I wouldn't bet against them. Just like at the last World Cup when they were facing a nightmare draw, they’re still going to be a massive headache for whatever top-tier team has dominated the last few years.

Group number 2 is wide open, and my money is on Spain sweeping it up, especially since they'll have the best goalkeeper in the world backing them up right now.

Spain takes down France...
Samuel Baker3 Samuel Baker3 Member
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Adam Collins4 said:The Spanish team is taking down the French...

Miracles really do happen in sports, though we probably shouldn't lose our heads and assume they happen every single day, right?
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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Samuel Baker3 said:Miracles happen in sports—true enough—but let's not lose our minds and assume it happens every single day.

River has the keys to the French locker room... and a handful of laxatives in his pocket...
rustywalker1 rustywalker1 Active Member
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Our own officials aren't on the roster, but we've got guys from the Czech Republic, Portugal, Belarus, and Austria... how pathetic 🤦
Samuel Baker3 Samuel Baker3 Member
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Adam Collins4 said:River has the keys to the French locker room... and probably some laxatives in his pocket too...

Sure, maybe he does, but honestly? The Americans look better at every single position on the court except for goalie.

Of course, they actually have to step up and prove they’re superior out there, but anything short of taking home the gold this tournament would be considered a total failure for them.

They really need to pull off something that hasn't been done in the history of the sport—unifying all three major titles.

And if you ask me, they have an even loftier goal in mind: sweeping every single gold medal from one Olympics straight through to the next. They feel even more dominant than they did back when they were playing in the States, so I don't think they'll be lacking any motivation whatsoever.

I truly believe we are about to spend the next two weeks watching handball history being written right before our eyes.🙂
Noah Ross7 Noah Ross7 Regular
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Just wait until today, when the Canadians pull an upset.
If I recall correctly, they beat them during the last EP too.🤔
Terry Fisher2 Terry Fisher2 Active MemberOP
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Poland vs. Germany 12-8 at the half

I honestly didn't care what happened until Bielecki started absolutely tearing it up. Germany is somehow staying in this thanks to some gritty defense and those wild 9-meter jump shots.

Spain vs. Czech Republic 20-13...

Romer's on fire—11 goals out of 13 attempts.
Roger Allen3 Roger Allen3 Regular
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In the end, it's +12 for Spain. Those guys from the Czech Republic really pushed them hard!
vividbadger182 vividbadger182 Newcomer
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Group C
Anyone besides Sweden could realistically go home at this point. After watching tonight’s game, I wouldn't be shocked if the Germans were the ones getting knocked out next.

Group D
The Czechs and Canadians are going to tear each other apart just to scrap for third place.
Noah Ross7 Noah Ross7 Regular
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Frenchmen at +1 compared to Canada.
🙂

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