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Anyone still running Windows 7?

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goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
335 messages
joined Mar 2024
#3581 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:@ goldenhound32

Wait, aren't we talking about the Dell Inspiron N5010 or the N7010 laptop here?

Yes, that's exactly the laptop in question.

So, the real question remains: will I actually get better battery life if I stick with Windows XP?

As for functionality, I believe I've already made it quite clear—and perhaps even illustrated—that I don't have an option for a 'function key row.'
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#3582 ·
1) Going back to XP isn't going to magically fix your battery life; it won't make it last any longer than it already does.

2) Just set up those function keys in the BIOS.
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
335 messages
joined Mar 2024
#3583 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:1) Reverting back to Windows XP isn't going to do anything to extend your laptop's battery life.

Well, obviously, but that wasn't even the point here. 🙂
The actual question was whether Windows XP would drain the battery just as much, less, or more over the course of a week.

2) Configure the function keys via the BIOS.

Fine, I suppose I'll give that a shot. 👍
Joshua Kern90 Joshua Kern90 Member
20 messages
joined Jul 2011
#3584 ·
goldenhound32 said:👍

By the way, do you think I'd actually get more battery life out of my laptop if I ditched Windows 7 and went back to Windows XP? I guess it's worth wondering.

You already got an answer, and let me say it one more time: absolutely NOT.

goldenhound32 said:Of course, but that wasn't even what I was asking. 🙂
The question was whether an XP battery lasts just as long, less, or more than a week?

👍

That wasn't actually the question; you've just posed a whole new one now.
It’s just as gutting. 😂
goldenhound32 goldenhound32 Regular
335 messages
joined Mar 2024
#3585 ·
@Joshua Kern90/">@@Joshua Kern90
I appreciate your input as well, 👍
casualranger10 casualranger10 Member
18 messages
joined Jan 2010
#3586 ·
Is there some kind of gadget for Windows 7 that can track total data usage? My buddy doesn't have an unlimited data plan—so I want to set him up with something useful so he can actually keep an eye on his consumption.
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#3587 ·
Take a look at Network Meter 😉
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#3588 ·
Is it possible to upgrade my Windows 7 64-bit system to a newer Service Pack?
I have attempted to initiate the installation both through a manual download from the web and via the automated Windows update process to bring my current build up to the latest Service Pack or SP1, yet the process fails to execute every single time.🤷
Noah Sanchez39 Noah Sanchez39 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2010
#3589 ·
Have you been keeping up with Windows update regularly? And did you actually activate Windows?
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#3590 ·
Noah Sanchez39 said:Have you been running Windows Update on a regular basis? Furthermore, have you actually activated your Windows license?

I utilize Windows Update quite regularly.
Everything has functioned perfectly until now; the system downloads the SP1 64-bit installation from the web, begins the process for my Windows 7 64-bit machine, and then—once it reaches exactly 12%—it simply forces a reboot and presents me with a notification stating, "Windows 7 failed to install this item."
While all other updates seem to install without any incident, this specific SP1 update remains stubbornly stuck; it is as if some unseen force is actively obstructing the process. 🤣
Joshua Kern90 Joshua Kern90 Member
20 messages
joined Jul 2011
#3591 ·
Are you getting any kind of ERROR
?
Patrick Harris8 Patrick Harris8 Newcomer
1 message
joined Mar 2012
#3592 ·
Jonathan Morris40 said:Which web browser are you using?


I'm currently running Firefox—is there some specific reason why that would matter?
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#3593 ·
Joshua Kern90 said:Are you getting any specific ERROR messages?

It isn't throwing an ERROR per se; rather, the sequence of events is quite peculiar. After the Windows 7 update begins its installation process, I am kicked out of the desktop and presented with a prompt for Service Pack 1, showing a progress percentage. Then, the system reboots, attempts the installation again, but once it reaches 12%, it logs me back into my user account only to present a warning stating that the Windows 7 update failed to install properly.
And then, just a minute later, it offers to run the Windows 7 update once more—it is a predictable cycle, really, the exact same loop every single time, and yet the installation of Windows 7 64-bit SP1 remains perpetually unsuccessful.
I have even attempted to utilize the Windows Update troubleshooter, but to no avail; even when Windows claims to have successfully repaired the Windows Update service, nothing changes.😕
Matthew Mendoza49 Matthew Mendoza49 Newcomer
1 message
joined Sep 2011
#3594 ·
How do I change the taskbar so that open programs show up as buttons instead of individual icons, similar to how they looked back in Windows XP?
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#3595 ·
Does overclocking the Phenom x4 9950 actually offer any real value?
If there is a benefit, is there any truth to the common street wisdom suggesting that overclocking effectively guts a processor's lifespan? People claim that pushing the clock speeds will limit its life to maybe two years before it inevitably burns out under heavy loads, supposedly because it wasn't engineered by the manufacturer to sustain such high frequencies...
My current operating frequency sits at 2.60 GHz, but I am considering bumping it up to 3.2 or perhaps 3.3 GHz.
Arthur Lewis2 Arthur Lewis2 Member
11 messages
joined Nov 2013
#3596 ·
Don't worry, nothing is going to blow up on you... though, obviously, it’s not a good idea to push things too far, like trying to overclock a 2.0 GHz chip all the way up to 3.5 GHz 🤣 but if you're going to attempt something like that, you're definitely going to need some serious cooling
granitegull51 granitegull51 Member
12 messages
joined Aug 2013
#3597 ·
Jonathan Morris40 said:Windows XP is just so incredibly stable that whenever one single application decides to freeze up on me, hitting Ctrl+Alt+Del sixty times in a row won't do a damn thing to wake it up. At that point, honestly, the only way to get things moving again is to physically smash that reset button.

Honestly, Aero has been such a lifesaver for so many people who have absolutely zero experience with Windows or computers in general. I’m talking about those folks—like my aunts and grandmothers—who honestly have no clue what they’re doing when they sit down at a PC. And don't even get me started on the power users, the ones juggling massive amounts of multitasking and running dozens of different operations all at once every single day. It’s truly made a huge difference.

You know, looking at how things run on my end, Masa and I find that Windows XP almost never actually freezes up on us. Even when it does hit a snag, it somehow manages to shake it off and keep moving without me having to pull the plug and restart everything. 🙂

Honestly, I think the older generation just finds it way easier to stick with the old-school systems that don't have all this Aero nonsense or those useless widgets cluttering up the screen. It’s exactly like handing a high-end smartphone to your grandmother right after she’s used a basic flip phone—it’s just unnecessarily complicated, and frankly, it eats up way too many resources. Most people out there are still running setups with a 2GHz processor and maybe 2GB of Intel, so they really don't need the extra bloat.

So, how much more Intel are we actually talking about when we say "way more" compared to what you’d find on Windows XP? 🤷 Giga? Seriously, does anyone even use a computer today that doesn't have at least 2 gigs of Intel? Honestly, I feel like finding a machine with less than that would be like trying to find a decent cup of coffee in a gas station—nearly impossible if you actually want to get anything done.

On average, most people are just working with about 2GB of RAM. So, if you've got a single program that decides to hog an entire gigabyte, it’s an absolute disaster. It really throws everything out of whack.

Most modern setups these days seem to hover around that 4GB Intel mark. It’s a bit of a joke, honestly—if you're running Windows 7 and the OS decides to gobble up a full gigabyte just to stay upright, you're left staring at a measly 3GB. At that point, what's even the point of using 64-bit technology? You aren't really getting any of the benefits if the headroom is that tight.

Why on earth would anyone need this thing to run four times faster? Honestly, it doesn't have to be lightning-quick; I’d be perfectly happy if it just performed on par with Windows XP. For me, the raw speed isn't even the priority here. What actually matters is that they've finally sorted out the management tools, fixed User Account Control, overhauled the wireless and connectivity stability, and streamlined disk management. There's a whole mountain of other stuff they've improved too, which is much more important to me than some arbitrary "ultra-fast" benchmark. I mean, what am I actually going to do with all that extra speed? Zipping between windows and switching programs a fraction of a second sooner? I just don't see the point.🙂

Speed is everything when you're talking about a computer. I mean, can we really sit here and pretend it’s a good idea to clog up a system with every half-baked Microsoft product out there? Sure, they might technically run at the same speed, but they absolutely gorge themselves on resources. At the end of the day, that extra bloat just drags the whole thing down and makes it slower. It's just common sense, right?

Can you actually explain how much faster a computer runs once you've "cleaned up" the management settings, control panels, and wireless configurations? I'm looking for specifics here.

Honestly, I’m not seeing any real performance boost with any of my programs on Windows 7, except for maybe Windows Media Player—which, oddly enough, actually feels snappier than VLC Media Player lately.

I haven't really dug into the research on this one, but honestly, I don't think it makes a massive difference to the actual product. Everything from wireless connectivity to disk performance and general system management works perfectly fine on Windows XP. I did notice that my drives seem to run a little quieter, but as far as speed goes? Not really. It doesn't feel any faster to me.

Scrolling? Honestly, once you’ve spent enough time mastering Windows XP, you practically develop muscle memory for every shortcut out there. At that point, you shouldn't even be bothering with the mouse—you could just hit Win + R and launch whatever app you need in a heartbeat.

I’m just saying, they actually managed to mess up the most basic open/save dialog box. You have to scroll just to find My Computer. And where on earth is the up button??

VLC Media Player definitely works great, GOG player works perfectly, and BS player is awesome. Honestly, they even run better than they did on XP.

Are you talking about Windows 7 64-bit? These forums are crawling with people for whom Windows 7 64-bit brings nothing but headaches. And could you clarify how it runs "better"? In what way do 32-bit applications perform better on Windows 7? Or if they release 64-bit players, will they be twice as fast? Or maybe just 20% faster?

Douglas Garcia52 said:you're rambling 🙂🙂
The only thing bolded there is accurate, but again, it doesn't mean much more Intel.

Wait, are you seriously claiming Windows 7 boots faster than XP? Your friend already debunked that.

It seems to hog and constantly pull more Intel, but I still need to compare it properly against XP. 😁

Jonathan Morris40 said:and it consumes resources for logical and justifiable reasons. 😉

To each their own, I guess. But saying it uses 2x the resources just because it has widgets and supposedly a better wireless menu seems totally nonsensical to me.

Benjamin King2 said:That's the idea; we'll get there eventually.

Hold on a second—you want applications to run faster, but you don't want them sitting in the Intel? What's the fastest form of storage out there? Where should those applications be stored then? And what else is the Intel supposed to be used for? To wash your laundry? 😕

I agree, but this feels like Microsoft just being greedy with the Intel. It's perfectly possible to create OPTIMIZED software with the exact same features that uses significantly fewer resources.

Take Adobe Reader versus Foxit, for example. They have the same functions, yet Foxit uses 5x fewer resources. 😉 It's pretty clear that Adobe Reader is a half-baked product since they follow the same logic as Microsoft...
Benjamin King2 Benjamin King2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#3598 ·
granitegull51 said:I get where you're coming from, but this is just Microsoft being reckless with Intel usage. It’s totally possible to build OPTIMIZED software that does the exact same thing while using way fewer resources.

Take Adobe Reader versus Foxit, for instance. They do the same job, yet Foxit uses about 5x less resources. 😉 It’s pretty obvious that Adobe Reader is basically a half-baked product since they're following that same lazy Microsoft logic...

Honestly, it sounds to me like you just want all the shiny new software to run faster than the old stuff without actually upgrading your hardware—which, let's be real, isn't going to happen.

Windows XP and Windows 7 are worlds apart when it comes to functionality. They aren't even software packages with the "same functions," so there's no way they should be pulling the same amount of hardware resources.
granitegull51 granitegull51 Member
12 messages
joined Aug 2013
#3599 ·
Benjamin King2 said:It feels to me like you just want all the newer software to run faster than the old stuff without actually investing in any hardware upgrades, which honestly isn't how things work.

Windows XP and Windows 7 are worlds apart when it comes to actual functionality. They aren't just different versions of the same software with identical features; they simply can't demand the same amount of system resources.

I mean, obviously, newer software is supposed to be faster and/or higher quality. I used PDF readers as an example because the difference between a top-tier product like Foxit and a mediocre one like Adobe Reader is night and day.

And how can you say they aren't comparable when pretty much every program runs on both operating systems? Just look at how many comparisons people post online every single day...

Windows 7 isn't actually faster than Windows XP, nor is it noticeably better. Especially for the average user—which covers well over 90% of the population. After everyone absolutely trashed Windows Vista, they polished up Windows 7 a bit, but it’s still not quite enough.

Having a handful of shiny new features isn't a good enough reason to burn through so many resources.

Check out this image:
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It uses almost twice as much Intel and hard drive space, and I'm certain it eats up more Intel too.

For instance, AutoCAD flies like a bullet on Windows XP, whereas on Windows 7, it can actually start to stutter. Even Photoshop runs a tiny bit slower on Windows 7. It’s honestly kind of funny when you see someone insisting on switching to Windows 7 just because of some widgets or supposedly "better" wireless support.😂

Sure, they improved disk management. But does Photoshop run faster on Windows 7? Nope.

They have 64-bit technology now. Does it make video playback any faster? Not really.

It's all just marketing...
Taylor Morales31 Taylor Morales31 Member
33 messages
joined May 2014
#3600 ·
Look, Daniel, this thread is specifically for those of us on Windows 7. Cut the patronizing tone and stop trying to lecture us; we’re old hands at this, so good luck with that. You already have a dedicated thread for Windows XP, so why don't you go join them? Otherwise, if you're so unhappy, feel free to take it up with Microsoft or just build your own OS—why not?

By the way, Windows 7 doesn't freeze nearly as often as Windows XP used to, where it felt like the system would just stop responding constantly. So, let's move back to the XP thread. No offense intended, but you're spamming here way too much. 👍

p.s. You asking if I'd ever switch from Windows 7 back to Windows XP after two years? NEVER. Not even then. 😁

granitegull51 said:Sure, they improved disk management. Does Photoshop run faster on Windows 7? Nope.

They have 64-bit technology. Does it play video any faster? No.

It's just marketing...

Buy faster hardware and everything will actually run faster. Except for video, obviously—if I'm watching my videos at 33 1/3 rpm and you're watching yours sped up at 78 rpm, I really have nothing to say to you. 👍

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