Old school techno

boldjackal10 said:It’s the same story every time with electronic music—hardly anyone actually understands the origins or how things evolved. Once you start debating genres and subgenres, people just end up talking past each other. Honestly, I don't see why any of that matters. For me, it’s all about the sound. I want that damn good sound with a bassline heavy enough to move a crowd, the kind that puts a smile on your face, makes your feet move on their own, and sends your hands up in the air. I want that sound that hits you right in the chest and keeps humming in your ears for five or six hours after the party's over.
And look, if you want to know who was first or what started what, just use Google or Wikipedia. It's not that hard to look it up.

This guy pretty much nailed the whole situation. 👍

More feeling, less thinking. I think that's really the core of all dance music. If you want to overanalyze everything else, go join an academy or something...
Am I right or am I right? 🙂

Christian Hughes92 said:Honestly, I don't need some kid who wasn't even born during the peak clubbing era trying to lecture me. Keep your copy-pasting, your Wikipedia deep dives, and all that other stuff to your own generation—those kids who love acting like internet warriors and lecturing people on history when they still have baby teeth. It’s like me trying to teach my old man how things used to be at the local dive bars back before I was even a thought. Or you trying to explain how the Gulf War started to me when I watched it unfold on TV from day one, long before you were even on the map.

Hold on. If my math is right, you've been consistently following and listening to electronic music since you were eight years old?

Man, I started out with those old-school house tracks and basic garage beats; what kind of techno are we even talking about here? 🙏

Why the sudden attitude, amigo?😁
It’s actually cool to see younger people who aren't just listening to whatever pop garbage is on the radio, but actually appreciate this stuff... there has to be some continuity to the tradition, right?

Christian Hughes92 said:IIIDEEEEMOOOOOOO!!!

I swear, I lose my mind whenever I hear that at a party 😁

😂

Am I angry? Believe me, it looks a whole lot different when I’m actually pissed off. If I were truly upset, my status at the studio would probably just say Banned.

I don't have anything against house music, but I really can't stand those pointless arguments about genre origins and what came first—especially when someone tries to lecture me on it.
It feels like they just picked up some random facts somewhere rather than having spent years actually living the culture. By the way, regarding house music, at least the people there are genuinely into it because they love the sound. In contrast, at those techno parties, half the crowd is only showing up because they think it's trendy. At the turn of the millennium, I guess everyone was trying to be part of the scene. You had these crowds coming straight from a club at night and then heading to an afterparty at my buddy's place 🙄 in the morning; everyone seemed to go to every single party without having any clue what they were even listening to, as long as they were out. Luckily, the music I gravitate toward has always stayed underground, since you really have to have a passion for it to listen. Because of that, it's hard for us to gather 200 people at one event. I've been to parties where there were fewer than ten people, and honestly, that's kind of awesome.

Benjamin Thompson66 said:😂

Well, sure, by all means, just go ahead and head out whenever you feel like it, maybe even pack your own gear and bring along whatever loud music or party vibes you happen to be feeling at the time. 😁

Christian Hughes92 said:Me, angry? Trust me, you haven't seen anything yet. If I actually lost my cool, I'd be flagged as banned on this site in a heartbeat.

Look, I don't have a problem with house music, but I can't stand these pointless debates about genres and which one came first—especially when someone tries to lecture me on it.
Someone who just picked up some trivia online and thinks they're an expert, rather than someone who’s lived and breathed this stuff for years. By the way, regarding house music, at those specific events, people show up because they actually give a damn about the sound. At a techno party, half the crowd is only there because they think it's "in." Back in the early 2000s, everyone was basically a club rat. You had the crowd from the main parties heading straight to an after-party at my buddy's place in 🙄. Everyone went to every single party regardless of whether they actually knew what they were listening to; they just wanted to be out. Luckily, the stuff I listen to stayed underground, because you really have to love it to get it. Because of that, you won't see us gathering in groups of 200 at a rave. I've been to parties with fewer than 10 people, and honestly, that's the best kind of vibe.

I mean, it's all fine... everyone should just listen to whatever they want. There's an old saying: live and let live.👍
It's just a shame that electronic music in America is still somewhat overlooked....🙄

Christian Hughes92 said:btw, regarding the tracks... there’s always a crowd there playing what's trendy just because it's cool, or half the people at a techno rave go just because it's "in." At the start of the 2000s, it felt like everyone was just following the pack. You had those crowds from the club scene heading straight to an afterparty at my buddy's place in 🙄. Every single person would show up to a party without having a clue what they were actually listening to; they just wanted to be there. Luckily, the stuff I dig has stayed underground... you really have to love it to get it, so we rarely see even 200 of us together at a single show.

Not gonna bother responding, honestly don't have the energy to argue over nothing.

But I know what I listen to and why, and trust me, it definitely isn't because it's some trendy trend...

Can someone please tell me who brought up house music—you know, that classic soul-infused sound—in the old techno thread?

History doesn't really matter; what matters is the sound itself. We’ve already established that. Even though I've grown a bit tired of Mills lately, I still find myself reaching for those vintage Axis 12'' records. I also have a soft spot for the grandeur of Inner City—it was such a massive project. As for Cybotron or Model 500—out of everything Atkins did, I always go back to No UFOs, even if it isn't strictly techno. And Damon Wild is always a staple for me.

What are your thoughts on Saunderson's Ekspoziciju 07? 😕

What does it actually take to turn this into real electronic music?
I come from a scene in Detroit where everything just turned into pure minimalism.
Maybe I’ll just start a movement called BURN IT ALL DOWN
😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

Minimalism has somehow bled into every single living genre of electronic music, and honestly, that’s what really gets under my skin...

man, that mnml guy... he'll probably burn out in a year or two too, honestly, looks like he's already starting to slip

Hopefully... this isn't going to be boring as hell 😁

Look, people. If you actually claim to be a real techno head, you have to embrace minimal. It’s basically a revolution within the genre—everything shifts, and it always will. You can't just stay stuck in that hard Schranz loop forever. Personally, I dig minimal, but I also love the heavy hitters like Sven Väth or Boris Brejcha who bring those punishing beats. Richie Hawtin is a legend, and not just in techno, but across the whole electronic spectrum. If you aren't feeling Plastikman, that's on you; even I get sick of it sometimes, but there's a time and place where it hits right. It’s all about getting used to the sound. 🙂

My high school senior thesis was actually all about electronic music..🙂🙂
Check out some of my absolute favorite timeless tracks from Detroit or stuff heavily inspired by that scene.. These records have this totally unique sound that’s honestly hard to top.. Carl Craig is hands down my favorite producer, but I can spin these any time..

U. Resistance - Final Frontier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTM4p0Hx0o

Galaxy 2 Galaxy - Journey Of The Dragons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzjn3yA1.9 miles

Galaxy 2 Galaxy Hi - Tech Jazz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkjDI_9sSz0

Carl Craig - Red Lights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzJt6nZdmZk

Rhythim is Rhythim - Icon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkMhj...eature=related

Choice - Acid Eiffel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Lj5egNB1M

This one’s a remix from way back in 2005, but man, it is absolute genius 🙂
Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig rmx)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-h27tajtg

George Chavez8 said:My senior thesis was all about electronic music.🙂🙂
Here’s a few of my all-time favorites from the Detroit scene, or at least the tracks heavily inspired by that specific sound. These records possess a unique sonic fingerprint that’s almost impossible to replicate. While Carl Craig is easily my favorite producer, these tracks are timeless enough to keep on constant rotation.

It’s like trying to find clarity in a storm. Just pure, unadulterated sound.
It’s like trying to find clarity in a heavy fog. You just can't get there.

Galaxy 2 Galaxy - Journey Of The Dragons
Just listened to this track. It’s like trying to drive through a storm in a car with no headlights—purely atmospheric, but you're essentially flying blind.1.9 miles

Galaxy 2 Galaxy - Hi-Tech Jazz
Just some high-tech jazz to get through the day. It’s fine, I guess, if you’re into that sort of thing.

Carl Craig - Red Lights
Listen, some people just don't get it. They listen to tracks like this and miss the entire point of the craft. It’s like watching a master chef prepare a five-course meal at a Michelin-star restaurant in NYC, only to have someone complain that the salt isn't loud enough. You either hear the vision, or you don't.

Icon by Rhythim is Rhythim.
It’s like listening to a broken clock that somehow tells perfect time. Pure chaos.

Choice - Acid Eiffel
Listening to this track feels like staring at a blank wall in a sterile hospital room. It’s just empty space masquerading as music.

Finally, some music that actually lets you clear your head from all the mindless garbage and noise. 🙂
I actually really dig Carl Craig's "The Climax" (Original Mix), even though I don't find myself spinning it that often.
I have to bring up Derrick May’s "Strings of Life" again... honestly, it’s an absolute masterpiece. 😁

Carl Mendoza87 said:Look, that minimal scene is already on its way out, and honestly, it’s been fading for a while now.

I’ve never had any patience for minimal techno whatsoever,

but lately, I’ve found myself spinning a lot of Richie Hawtin.😳