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quiettiger46 quiettiger46 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2010
#3461 ·
Jonathan White57 said:It wasn't exactly a walk in the park. They headed over to the rail yards, sat down at a cafe across the street, and the cops showed up in maybe three or four minutes flat. Itโ€™s a bummer because they were too visible to our side, and the crews had already started moving out..

Kudos to the younger Cohort guys for stepping up on that one. ๐Ÿ‘


Honestly, I've been fascinated by your lies for a long time now... I just hope everyone else realizes it wasn't about some 3-4 minute window, but rather having enough time to grab a drink. What, were we supposed to come track you down in your own city?
Walter Mitchell Walter Mitchell Member
17 messages
joined Sep 2012
#3462 ·
The navy looks great, now and always.๐Ÿ‘
swiftmarlin72 swiftmarlin72 Active Member
103 messages
joined Jan 2010
#3463 ·
quiettiger46 said:Honestly, Iโ€™ve been watching you spin these tall tales for a while now and it's kind of fascinating... I just really hope everyone else here realizes we aren't talking about some quick 3-minute sprint; this was long enough to grab a few drinks. What, were we supposed to track you down in your own backyard or something?

People used to handle things differently back in the day๐Ÿ˜‰...The navy is a pretty laid-back, easygoing crowd, though...
Jonathan White57 Jonathan White57 Member
41 messages
joined Jul 2012
#3464 ·
quiettiger46 said:Iโ€™ve been fascinated by your lies for a while now... I just hope everyone else realized this wasn't some quick 3-4 minute thing; enough time passed for people to grab a few drinks. What, were we supposed to come looking for you in your own city instead?

Oh please, where is all this talk coming from now? You stormed into our town, fine. I saw it with my own eyes when you arrived and how half a van showed up. Don't even start talking about drinks, because you didn't even finish the first one.
boldano: did I ever say anything about that?
Peter Barrett Peter Barrett Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2011
#3465 ·
swiftmarlin72 said:That used to be the way things were done once upon a time๐Ÿ˜‰...The navy was just a relaxed, easygoing group...

If youโ€™re thinking about how things used to be, those types of groups aren't coming back. They changed. Back then, they actually fit in with the mainstream
this stuff was alright http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGDpz...eature=related

but I can probably forget about seeing it again, don't you think?
Raymond Gonzalez Raymond Gonzalez Member
45 messages
joined Oct 2012
#3466 ·
Personal ๐Ÿ˜‰
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgXuvbgcrt4

Isn't this right, Paul Carter5 ๐Ÿ™‚?

This one works too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3lFRaOCKq8&NR=1
We really are such a relaxed bunch...
Peter Barrett Peter Barrett Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2011
#3467 ·
Why is there talk about you guys being nationalist back in the early nineties? Was it really just this new wave of kids getting radicalized after the war?
And since when did the navy start picking fights at the stadium and provoking the Red Army fans?

Asking because of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSF_yXyZDE
Paul Carter5 Paul Carter5 Active Member
60 messages
joined Nov 2013
#3468 ·
Raymond Gonzalez said:personal ๐Ÿ˜‰
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgXuvbgcrt4

Don't you agree, Paul Carter5 ๐Ÿ™‚?

Or perhaps this one... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3lFRaOCKq8&NR=1
We really are such a laid-back crowd, aren't we?

I was once naive, head over heels, and young... ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ
Raymond Gonzalez Raymond Gonzalez Member
45 messages
joined Oct 2012
#3469 ·
Peter Barrett said:Why is there talk about you guys being nationalist-leaning even back in the early nineties? It wasn't just a recent thing where a new generation of kids grew up with those views...
And since when did people claim that the group from Seattle was the one that started the fights at Yankee Stadium by provoking the Delis?

I'm asking because of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSF_yXyZDE

Why is it being discussed? Because the video presents actual facts and concrete evidence. I don't want this to sound like an excuse, but among most fans in America, especially the younger crowd, certain prejudices and "stereotypes" regarding our group persist, which is why these questions arise. The primary reason stems from our own failure during the 1987 cup final in Belgrade. While the first wave of our supporters hadn't even entered the stadium yet, a portion of the Seattle crowd actually allowed the Yankees fans to cheer against the Dodgers. We've been haunted by that "curse" ever since, despite our efforts to deny it over the yearsโ€”during matches, during the war, and in the present day...

On a side note, my view is that expressing a strong sense of American identity was more difficult in Seattle during the late 80s due to the environment we lived in, compared to Miami or Chicago. Not only were we targeted by Mexicans and Yugoslavs, but unfortunately, we also faced friction from locals...

And I will return to Yankee Stadium in 1990. Let it be stated again: our group was the first to charge in from the East, but whether that caused the chaos is irrelevant. It is well known that the Delis arrived in much larger numbers, organized by Arkan, who showed up at the stadium in a suit as part of the Yankees delegation. Just as the Delis were paid to cause trouble during a match in Genoa, the situation in Chicago was quite similar...
shadowbison17 shadowbison17 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2012
#3470 ·
Raymond Gonzalez said:Why bring this up? Because the video lays out actual facts and hard evidence. I don't want this to sound like making excuses, but among most fans in Americaโ€”especially the younger crowdโ€”there are certain prejudices and "stereotypes" regarding the unknown group, which is why people ask these questions. The biggest reason stems from our own slip-up during the 1987 cup final in Belgrade. While the first wave of the unknown group didn't enter the stadium, some of the Seattle crowd basically allowed the Yankees fans to cheer against the Dodgers. We've been haunted by that "curse" ever since, even though we've spent years trying to prove otherwise (during games, during the war, and even today).

Personally, I think it was harder to express true American identity in Seattle back in the late 80s because of the environment we were living in compared to Miami or Chicago. It wasn't just that we were being labeled by Mexicans or Yugoslavs; unfortunately, we had friction with locals too.

And looking back at Yankee Stadium in 1990. Let's be clear: the unknown group was the first to charge in from the East. Whether that actually triggered the chaos isn't really the point. Itโ€™s well known that the Delis showed up in much larger numbers, organized by Arkan, who walked into the stadium in a suit as part of the Yankees delegation. Just like how the Delis were paid to cause trouble during a match in Genoa, things were similar back then near Chicago.

Props to this post, especially coming from someone who was actually there for most of the history involving the unknown group.

Since we're dropping historical links, I have to admit: the atmosphere used to be incredible at Wrigley Field. There were plenty of heavy clashes there, and you rarely see anything quite like it anymore.

If you set aside the Chicago crowd, it's interesting how every ten years or so, things get wild at Wrigley Field with massive groups showing up; those extreme situations happen more often than you'd think.
The '91 show, the 2001 showโ€”it just keeps getting bigger. I wonder what 2011 will look like.๐Ÿ˜

A little something for the nostalgic types.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7eI0...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15BRf...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhTTw...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn3IM...eature=related
Raymond Gonzalez Raymond Gonzalez Member
45 messages
joined Oct 2012
#3471 ·
A dedication to those who have only just reached adulthood and yet already think they can dismiss us...๐Ÿ™‚

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysGdhiyjMNg
Jerry Gray5 Jerry Gray5 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Oct 2010
#3472 ·
Raymond Gonzalez said:A little tribute to those who finally grew up and realized they were underestimating us...๐Ÿ™‚

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysGdhiyjMNg

you took their words to fuel your own ๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿคท
copperwalker6 copperwalker6 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jan 2012
#3473 ·
The cohort, man. Just the cohort.
rowdyridge19 rowdyridge19 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2009
#3474 ·
Raymond Gonzalez said:Why talk about it? Because this video actually lays out facts and hard evidence. I don't want this to sound like making excuses, but let's be realโ€”among most fans here in America, especially the younger crowd, there are these deep-seated prejudices and "stereotypes" about the Ultras. Thatโ€™s why people keep asking these questions. The biggest reason for all this baggage is our own screw-up during that 1987 cup final in Belgrade. While the first wave of the Ultras didn't enter the stadium, a segment of the local crowd basically let the Red Star fans cheer against Hajduk. We've been haunted by that "curse" ever since, even though we've spent years trying to prove otherwiseโ€”during games, through the war, and everything since.

Anyway, my take? It was just harder to show any sense of American patriotism in a place like this back in the late 80s compared to somewhere like Split or LA. It wasn't just that the locals would label us as outsiders or old-school Yugoslavians; we had issues, unfortunately, even with people from our own side.

And I'll go back to that scene at Yankee Stadium in 1990. Let me say it again: the Ultras were the first ones to charge in from the East. Whether that triggered the riot or not isn't really the point. Everyone knows the Delis showed up in massive numbers, organized by Arkan, who rolled up to the stadium in a suit as part of the official delegation. Just like how those Delis were paid to stir up trouble during a match in Genoa, things were similarly rigged back then in the States.

you think, (also) to the Yugoslavs ๐Ÿ™‚
wanderingpuma15 wanderingpuma15 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2010
#3475 ·
Oh, look at those guys from ล ibenik, thinking they're such big-shot patriots... seriously...
Go ahead, bow down to Mamiฤ‡; maybe he'll toss you a few extra bucks if you play nice. You've all clearly sold your souls to the Chicago crowd.
rowdyridge19 rowdyridge19 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2009
#3476 ·
wanderingpuma15 said:Oh, look at you guys from the coast, big patriots... real heroes... go ahead, bow down to Mamiฤ‡, maybe he'll toss you another few bucks... sold your souls to those guys from the big city...

You totally missed my point. He said they were being called Yugoslavs, but what he actually meant was those "locals"โ€”the same kind of people you still see hanging around today in places like Rijeka or any other US city...
But honestly, your reaction fits your username perfectly. If you want to call us "patriots" like that, fine. Weโ€™ve proven who we are a thousand times over; maybe you just have some issues dealing with it...๐Ÿคท
And don't try to feed me that tired old crap about Mamiฤ‡ and the big-city crowd. What does he even have to do with us?! ๐Ÿ˜‚
Joshua Vaughn6 Joshua Vaughn6 Member
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joined Aug 2010
#3477 ·
A little late to the party on this one, but hey, if anyoneโ€™s still down to roll out, come join us!
Noah Reyes7 Noah Reyes7 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Oct 2009
#3478 ·
Everything is back where it belongs. ๐Ÿ˜
Nicole Jackson3 Nicole Jackson3 Active Member
124 messages
joined Apr 2023
#3479 ·
Itโ€™s a shame he isn't arriving during a better era. I'm honestly worried that with this pathetic squad, he won't be able to pull anything off, and then everyone will just end up blaming him. Right now, everyone expects him to work some kind of miracleโ€”something that realistically isn't going to happen, not this season and probably not the next one either...

Colorado circus...
wearyfalcon11 wearyfalcon11 Newcomer
1 message
joined Dec 2010
#3480 ·
Can anyone give me the lowdown on the 1:30 game?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGDpzI-sP6E

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