The Armada

Peter Roberts58 said:It honestly makes me sick reading posts from members of that fleet. Last year, I saw a group of—I’d estimate—maybe 60 or 70 people walking past the local pub. There were exactly 12 of us standing right out front. And what did they do? A few verbal insults and some lighters tossed on the ground. Is that supposed to be bravery? It’s not that I think avoiding a fight is cowardly, but why bother acting tough as a massive group when you have absolutely nothing to show for it? What am I supposed to write about, Gademz? That you guys "owned" this group or that one? We didn't lay a finger on anyone.

And what exactly was your grand plan there? Did you expect them to jump you? You're just one guy, for God's sake. If 60 or 70 people roll into YOUR city, what do you think is going to happen if they decide to target 12 Gademze supporters? A group that has NEVER been involved in a single fan brawl? They'd end up with at least 30-day bans slapped on them instantly. And for what? So you can hop on an American message board and brag about how they pushed the Gademze around in their own territory? Honestly, you should be happy you walked away unscathed; if you actually want to test yourselves, try gathering a crowd and picking a fight in your own hometown next time, and we'll see how that turns out...
P.S. Given your affiliation with the group and the reputation you've built, you're really only qualified to comment on the White angels or similar outfits...

Please don't bother replying to me, because your previous posts have already made your stance crystal clear.

Ryan Ramos98 said:What exactly was the goal here? To have you walk away crippled or disabled? When 60 or 70 of them roll into YOUR city, what do you expect happens next? That they’re going to charge at 12 Gademz members—a group that has NEVER been involved in a single fan clash—just so you can get hit with 30 different bans? For what reason? So you can brag on an American message board about how they pushed Gademz around in their own backyard? Consider yourselves lucky this ended the way it did. If you want to test your luck by gathering a crowd to attack someone in your own territory next time, go ahead. We'll see how that turns out...
P.S. Given your group's reputation and image, you're only qualified to comment on the White angels or similar outfits...

Don't bother replying. You've already made your point clear in your previous posts.

Good grief, I don't believe this. Gademz, please, stop embarrassing us on this forum. Change your username, because right now it looks like this represents the entire group's stance rather than just yours. The guy made it clear: they came to OUR CITY, while your 12 guys were just hanging out at the stadium—which is exactly what fans do when a rival group is in town🤷. And now you actually have the nerve to call them cowards because they didn't pick a fight with those 12 Gademz members...
AN APPEAL TO ALL DEMONS ON THIS FORUM: Stop fighting with everyone else here. We are lightyears ahead of the rest. Focus on doing something meaningful for the stands instead!

Frank Myers24 said:Good grief, I don't buy it. Gademz, please, stop embarrassing us on this forum. Change your handle; right now, it looks like you're speaking for the whole group when you aren't. That guy clearly stated they came to OUR CITY, and your dozen guys were just hanging out at the stadium—which is exactly what fans do whenever a crew is in town.🤷 And then you have the nerve to call them cowards just because they didn't jump twelve Gademzes...
AN APPEAL TO ALL DEMZE ON THIS FORUM: STOP FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER (we're already lagging behind everyone else) AND START DOING SOMETHING FOR THE STANDS!

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Peter Roberts58 said:Reading posts from Navy fans makes me sick. Last year, maybe 60 or 70 of them were walking past the bar. There were exactly 12 of us right in front of the place. And what did they do? A few verbal insults and some lighters thrown. So much for being tough. It’s not even about being a coward for not rushing them, I just don't get why people act like they have a huge crew to flex with when they clearly don't. What am I supposed to write, Gademz? That we dominated this guy or that guy? We didn't touch anyone.

God, people are delusional. They're literally walking through your city and you're still whining that they didn't jump you? 😲😲😲

a few shots from San Francisco

Gademz I guess what on earth were you drinking when you wrote this? ☕

Ryan Ramos98 said:What exactly were you hoping they’d do? Turn into cripples? When 60 or 70 of them roll into your city, what do you expect—that they’ll just charge at 12 Gademze members (a group that has never once had a fan clash) and get slapped with thirty bans? And for what? So you can go on some online forum and brag that they pushed Gademze around in their own backyard? You should be happy with how things went, because if you actually try to gather a crowd and pick a fight in your own town next time, we'll see how that works out for you...
P.S. Given your group's reputation and overall image, you're really only qualified to comment on the White Angels or whatever else...

Please don't bother replying; your previous posts have already made your stance pretty clear.

1. "gademz," seriously, please just stop posting on the internet altogether

2. The Navy wasn't just "wandering the streets"; those 60 or 70 people were escorted by police from the station all the way through town

3. Nobody attacked anyone, but during that standoff near the cafe, nobody from Gademze ran away either, even though there were only about ten of us there; we just met them head-on. It wasn't exactly heroism, but it wasn't cowardice either.

4. "gademz," honestly, just stay off the internet forever

5. You're doing the same thing, Ryan Ramos98, latching onto one crazy comment and dragging the whole group down with it. It's not that we greet guests with stones and knives—what else would you want? My lack of desire to crack the skull of a man from San Francisco, a man from Zadar, or a man from Vinkovci visiting our territory might stem from reasons other than lacking guts...

6. We aren't going to measure up against the bbb or Torcid, and we never will, just like most other groups. Not even against the Navy when they show up in numbers like they did this year. There were fewer of them than us last time and they were a mess, yet nobody attacked them then, either.

7. The only group that actually acted up and caused trouble in town was the one that got jumped and chased off (and it doesn't matter which group it was, since the internet should probably be banned anyway... and yeah, if the Boys or Torcid had been the ones acting out, nothing would have happened to them, and I'm not ashamed to say it—that's just how it works in most cities when people decide to cause chaos)

8. "gademz," just quit the internet already

9. "gademz," please, just stop writing online

My apologies to the Navy for all this nonsense on their thread, you guys were actually great back in Karlovac, or whatever... I guess I’ll say it just so we don't drift too far off topic...
and since I'm already here, those graffiti pieces of yours are pretty killer too.

Razbojnik_1950 said:it’s basically just throwing stones and skinning people right over the interstate while trying to stay in your lane🤷

Are you actually brain-dead? That was clearly sarcasm.

To everyone who just signed up on any forum yesterday or the day before.

First things first—go read the rules. Know what’s allowed and what isn't...
There's an unwritten rule here too: actually follow the discussions for a bit. Read through at least a few pages of a thread—not that I'm saying
you have to skim everything perfectly, but you should probably get the gist of things before you start posting right after registering.
Once you've done that, then feel free to jump in with your criticisms, your observations, or whatever else you think needs fixing.
A little respect goes a long way toward the veteran users—and no, that doesn't mean your freedom of speech is being stifled.

Otherwise, you're just acting like a total tourist.

lonebadger6 said:1. Seriously, "Gademz," please just stay off the internet forever.

2. The Navy wasn't just "strolling through town." Those 60 or 70 people were walking from the station under police escort.

3. Nobody attacked anyone. But during that standoff near the cafe, nobody from the Gademz side ran away either—even though there were only about ten of them there. They just met force with force. It wasn't some act of heroism, but it wasn't cowardice either.

4. "Gademz," honestly, do us all a favor and stop posting online.

5. You’re doing the same thing, Ryan Ramos98—you latch onto one crazy comment and then trash the entire group. We aren't greeting visitors with stones and knives, so what's the issue? Maybe my lack of desire to crack the skull of a man from Šibenik, a man from Zadar, or a man from Vinkovci visiting our territory in the US is due to other reasons, rather than a lack of guts.

6. We can't compete with the BBB or Torcid, and we never will, just like most other groups. Not even with the Navy when they show up in numbers like they did this year. Last year there were fewer of them and things were rough, yet nobody targeted them either.

7. The only group actually causing trouble and provoking people in the streets got jumped and chased off (and it doesn't matter which group it was, since according to you, the internet should be banned anyway... and yeah, if it had been the Boys or Torcid "acting up," they wouldn't have been touched. I'm not ashamed to say it; that's just how the situation stands. It would be the same in most American cities if they decided to cause chaos here.)

8. "Gademz," seriously, just quit the internet.

9. "Gademz," please, just stop writing on the web.

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Here is the report from last year:

lonebadger6 said:5. You’re doing the same thing, Ryan Ramos98, latching onto one insane comment and using it to trash the entire group. We aren't out here greeting visitors by throwing rocks at them or pulling knives on them, so what else could be missing? My lack of desire to crack the skull of some guy from San Francisco, Zadar, or Vinkovci who just showed up on sacred Karlovac soil might stem from plenty of other reasons, and it certainly isn't because I lack guts.

I never intended to call you all out as a group or spit on your reputation. You have your own stance and your own style, and as long as you aren't attacking anyone, I have no issue with that. It’s your decision, your business, and nobody has the right to lecture you or throw accusations at you regarding how you choose to exist. But when someone using a handle tied to your group starts picking fights with another group—one that is significantly more powerful—over a custom or practice that doesn't even exist in your circle, well, then you can expect this kind of reaction, and that’s that.

P.S. There is no point in dragging this out any further in the Navy thread. Cheers!

Sure, just another moment of being totally tethered to the internet 🙂 as far as I'm concerned, let the mods delete this if they want, cheers to you and everyone else...

Ryan Ramos98 said:If you're talking about a niche that doesn't even exist over here—or at least isn't practiced—then yeah, you're just going to get this kind of reaction, and that's that.

That segment actually does exist for them; they just tend to lean into it whenever they see an opportunity to 😉

I’m not trying to derail the thread here—really, I’m not—but I feel like I need to remind everyone that before you start throwing around those kinds of "trash" opinions, maybe take a second to realize we just shouldn't be acting like that toward people. Especially not toward a group like the armada.

No getting caught up in petty drama, no "copying" anyone else's vibe, none of that... just have some basic respect. Yes. Because at the end of the day, all we can really do is look up to them. 😉

Anyway, hats off to the guys. You’re coming back, and the younger crowd that’s been forming up is looking better every day... Just stick together. 👍

Cleveland-Pittsburgh

Any news on the Stones in Cleveland?

Man, those four guys... honestly, it was about time at least two of them just packed up and headed home halfway through the game.

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Joshua Vaughn6 said:There were four of them... though honestly, two probably should have just headed home by halftime...

🙏🙏🙏
Regarding those two who actually left...