Don't get vaccinated. It's no joke.

William Vaughn14 said:I’d give you a real answer, but I’m trying to be a gentleman here.

Do you honestly think they care about people's health more than their bottom line?

Look, is your kid's health actually important to you, or are you just gonna sit back and let them catch every disease under the sun before they hit 15?
If we didn't have vaccines, things like TB would be tearing through lives left and right...

William Vaughn14 said:They're perfectly safe—actually, they're great for your health.

I’d highly recommend you get vaccinated yourself.

If you can't actually back up your claims with real arguments, you belong in preschool, not on this forum. Honestly, you might as well just get lost, because acting like a brainless child is pathetic.

On the other hand, maybe you actually have a point.
Well, let's hear them then.

I'm dying to know. Are you just some coward making up tall tales like a kid bragging about having ten computers and eight massive trucks at home when their mom won't even let anyone see them? Or do you actually have something to say?

It would be nice if you actually showed some backbone, but I guess I'll wait. 😬 ☕

mistypanther said:If you can't actually back up your claims here, you belong in preschool, not on an online forum. And if you decide to just walk away instead of engaging, then you're essentially proving you're nothing more than an immature, slow-witted child.

On the other hand, maybe you actually do have some points to make.
Well, let's hear them then.

I'm genuinely curious. Are you just another kid acting tough, like those middle schoolers claiming they have ten gaming rigs and a fleet of monster trucks parked in their driveway, but their mom won't let anyone come over to see? Or do you actually have something substantive to say?

It would certainly be a blow to your ego if the first scenario is true, but I'll wait. 😬 ☕

🙏 🙏

You're tough. Way tougher than me.

William Vaughn14 said:🙏 🙏

You think you're so much better than me?

Can someone please just ban this guy? 😵

jadeseal81 said:Is protecting your child's health actually a priority for you, or would you rather just roll the dice and let them face every possible illness until they hit 15?
If we didn't have vaccines, tuberculosis would be claiming far too many lives...

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Back in the day, people didn't bother with vaccinations and they turned out just fine. They lived long, healthy lives—honestly, probably even healthier than we are now.

William Vaughn14 said:I’d totally clap back at you, but I’m trying to be a decent human being here.

Do you honestly think they care about people's health more than their bottom line?

Nah, you're right—it's all the same curse. I bet you've got a whole theory or two lined up, too.
You can act polite fifteen times over, but you still sound like a total clown... but hey, at least you gave me a good laugh. 😂

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mistypanther said:Anyone wanna ban this guy? 😵

Whatever, just let him be. Maybe he'll drop another one of his "genius" takes soon. 🙂

William Vaughn14 said:🤣 🤣

Back in the day, people didn't get vaccinated and they were just fine. They were healthy—hell, they were probably even healthier.

Do some actual research on life expectancy back then.
Check how many kids were dying during childbirth.
Nobody was dying from cancer or TB because nobody even knew what those things were yet; people just died of "something."
Honestly, you’re just a troll living in some weird, fanatical bubble of your own...

William Vaughn14 said:🤣 🤣

People used to just skip the shots and be totally fine—living their best lives, even healthier than us, right?

I mean, that’s super relative though—like, really. First off, our water, air, and soil are all messed up now, plus all this radiation and stuff... so yeah, maybe they were "healthier" in some ways. But once they caught one of those diseases we actually have vaccines for now? They were toast. Some of those things aren't even around anymore because of them! What was their life expectancy back then anyway—maybe 40 years??

I honestly can't believe some people are actually this clueless...
Do you have any idea how many women would give anything in the world if that vaccine had been available sooner? Like, do you even realize what it's actually like to fight cervical cancer? Or the sheer dread when a gynecologist starts talking about CIN I, II, or III?

I mean, let me guess—is the malaria vaccine just a joke too? Is there really any point in getting vaccinated at all? Just look at the situation in parts of Africa—everyone there is doing just fine, right?

1) I don't see what all the fuss is about; Gardasil offers about 70% protection against HPV, which is pretty much on par with using a condom.
2) Nobody is making the definitive claim that HPV is the sole cause of cervical cancer. We still haven't uncovered the true root cause of the disease. The blame was simply shifted toward HPV because researchers found its DNA frequently—though certainly not always—integrated into the genetic makeup of cervical cancer cells. About thirty years ago, people were making similar arguments regarding herpes simplex.

A clean diet, getting enough sleep, staying active, and keeping stress levels down will do significantly more for you than three shots in the arm. When it comes to any illness, including cancer, the real key to prevention and recovery lies within the immune system itself.🙂

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The OP is just a low-rent provocateur—unoriginal, dim-witted, uneducated, and frankly, incredibly tedious. 🙄

It’s almost a shame he’s getting this kind of pushback; he’s probably sitting there smirking at his screen right now.

I doubt he actually holds these idiotic views—it’s clearly just a play for attention by stirring the pot. 😁

Amy Lee18 said:1) I don't get why everyone's losing their minds—Gardasil offers about 70% protection against HPV, which isn't much different from using a condom.
2) Nobody is actually claiming that HPV is the sole reason for cervical cancer. The true cause hasn't even been found yet. They just pinned the blame on HPV because they noticed its DNA shows up in the genetic makeup of cervical cancer cells quite often (but not always). About 30 years ago, people were saying the exact same thing about herpes simplex.

Eating right, getting enough sleep, staying active, and keeping stress levels down—that stuff will do way more for you than three shots in the arm. When it comes to any disease, including cancer, prevention and recovery really come down to how your immune system handles things. 🙂

👍 Finally, someone actually using their brain. 👍

I’ve come across plenty of discussions about vaccine safety and concerns over high mercury levels before, specifically regarding flu shots. Based on what I've read from some pretty reputable sources, it seems like there's some truth to those concerns—it's not like these people have any reason to lie or any conflict of interest to gain from it. So, at the end of the day, it's really up to the individual if they want to take that risk.

Amy Lee18 said:1) I don't see why there is such a massive fuss; Gardasil provides about 70% protection against HPV, which is essentially the same level of protection you get from a condom.
2) No one is definitively claiming that HPV is the sole cause of cervical cancer. The true underlying cause of cancer remains undiscovered. The blame has simply been shifted toward HPV because researchers found that its DNA is frequently (though not always) integrated into the genetic structure of cervical cancer cells. About 30 years ago, people made similar arguments regarding herpes simplex.

A healthy diet, sufficient sleep, regular physical activity, and stress management will do far more for you than three shots in the arm. When it comes to any disease, including cancer, prevention and the key to recovery lie within the immune system. 🙂

blah blah blah
You clearly lack a fundamental understanding of how cancer actually develops, so please refrain from trying to lecture anyone on this forum. 😉
HPV is responsible for approximately 70% of cervical cancer cases, and the molecular mechanisms by which it triggers cancer are well-documented. Getting enough sleep and eating well aren't magic bullets; they won't protect you from cancer the way this vaccine—in this specific case—is proven to do.

The HPV strains our own immune systems can actually handle aren't even the ones that cause cervical cancer—they mostly just lead to genital warts. This vaccine isn't even meant for those types. I mean, wouldn't it be amazing if we could just cure cancer with an eight-hour sleep, some vitamins, and a good workout? But I guess that's not really an option for people whose wives, moms, or sisters are dealing with cervical cancer.
Someone please just get rid of this idiot already.

Amy Lee18 said:1) I don't really get the huge fuss—Gardasil offers about 70% protection against HPV, which is pretty much the same level of protection you'd get from using a condom.
2) No one is actually claiming that HPV is the sole cause of cervical cancer. We haven't found the definitive cause of cancer yet. The blame just shifted toward HPV because researchers found its DNA is often—though not always—integrated into the genetic structure of cervical cancer cells. About 30 years ago, people used to say the same thing about herpes simplex.

Eating well, getting enough sleep, staying active, and keeping stress levels down—that's probably going to help way more than three shots in the arm. I mean, with any disease, including cancer, prevention and healing really come down to how your immune system handles things. 🙂

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So, I guess that means my mom's gynecologist totally messed up when he removed her entire uterus because of cervical cancer... just a clueless doctor, I suppose.😵 😵
And all she really needed was more sleep and a better diet with more fruits and veggies... it sounds that simple. It makes me wonder why he even performed the surgery, especially since she's still struggling mentally with it even years later. It's just... yeah, seems pretty reckless.

Come on, everyone—let’s dial back the insults, shall we? This vaccine is undeniably controversial, isn't it? It hasn't even been out long enough since its launch, so anyone opting in is essentially acting as a bit of a guinea pig. And Merck & Co. has been campaigning to make the HPV vaccine mandatory, even though—quite frankly—they still don't seem to know exactly how much time should pass between two doses. Now, perhaps an average organism would be perfectly fine, but I certainly wouldn't be taking my daughter to get vaccinated if she had any underlying immunity issues—that is to say, if her system was compromised in any way at all. Yet, they push for it to be mandatory! Honestly, just stay vigilant, people; let's not let this go to waste, as there is nothing but mindless squawking happening here.

Correction: It wasn't just one death recorded, but three. Specifically, one case of myocarditis and two involving blood clots. Interestingly, two of those three deaths (the clots) occurred in individuals who were already on birth control pills—which might be a significant factor, given that pills can promote clotting—but then again, would those clots have formed if they hadn't also received the vaccine? The third individual had the flu. It isn't 100% certain whether myocarditis would have occurred regardless of the administration of Gardasil.

While drug maker Merck & Co. has been campaigning to make the HPV vaccine mandatory for all young girls, documents show that serious side effects and deaths have been associated with the vaccine. Three deaths related to the vaccine were reported.

Of the 1,637 adverse-event reports, 136 have been deemed serious by the FDA, ranging from seizures to Guillain-Barré syndrome, a rare life-threatening disorder in which the immune system attacks nerves and induces paralysis. Eighteen women who received the vaccine while pregnant experienced complications, ranging from miscarriages to fetal abnormalities, according to new FDA data. Merck has distributed more than five million doses of Gardasil in the U.S. since its introduction in June 2006...

Analysts estimated that Merck could make $2-$4 billion off the sales of Gardasil. Over 2 million HPV vaccines have been administered across the U.S.

(http://women4hope.wordpress.com/2007...eigh-the-risk/
http://www.consultwebs.com/gardasil-HPV-lawsuits.html)

wanderingraven9 said:😲 😲 😲 😲
So, essentially, the gynecologist actually screwed my mother over when they removed her entire uterus because of cervical cancer... just a totally incompetent doctor. 😵 😵
As if she really just needed to get more sleep and eat a bit more fruit and vegetables... it's truly that simple, isn't it? It makes me wonder—honestly, I find myself questioning—why they even performed the surgery in the first place? And why, even after all these years, she is still struggling to recover mentally from the whole ordeal? It’s just quite foolish...

It might sound trivial, but this girl is actually right when she claims the immune system is the real key here. Many of us have sat by and watched a loved one suffer through cancer, but you know full well that we can't just vaccinate ourselves against everything—there simply isn't a miracle cure or some universal fix out there... at least nothing quite like Gardasil. Besides, you can never be entirely certain that your mother wouldn't have developed cancer regardless of whether she had the Gardasil shot or not. I’m not suggesting we should just surrender to fatalism and stop taking vaccines altogether, but let's be realistic: we cannot fight every single disease or pathogen, whether those triggers are intrinsic or extrinsic. If the system is compromised for any reason, it will find a weak spot, no matter how much we struggle against it. No one "screwed" your mother over—at least not the surgeon. Honestly, just be grateful she's still with you; nobody did her wrong here.

I’m honestly just thankful—thank God—that she had a solid gynecologist who caught everything early. But look, Vitamin C isn't going to do anything against HPV and the cancer it causes. I guess people just need to wrap their heads around that. My mom kept trying to lecture me about eating more fruit instead of actually asking questions about the vaccine...