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Don't get vaccinated. It's no joke.

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coppergardener coppergardener Active Member
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#81 ·
wanderingraven9 said:I am certainly grateful—thank God—that she had a skilled gynecologist who caught everything in time; however, when it comes to fighting HPV, which leads to cancer, Vitamin C just isn't the magic fix. I wish people would grasp that. Otherwise, my mother would be constantly nagging me about eating more fruit instead of actually looking into the vaccine...

(My apologies! I didn't realize you were a woman, so I initially used double forms, though I worried that might come across as a bit much🙂.) But look, I know—any sensible person should realize that matters are far more complex than just tossing in some Vitamin C. Yet, it seems people take the "sensational discovery" of Gardasil for granted, primarily because it's presented as an absolute win with zero downsides. I haven't done a deep dive myself, but I highly doubt that, say, Merck & Co.'s own websites or those of various pharmaceutical lobbies, mention any significant side effects. Now, I'm not a conspiracy theorist or someone hunting for sensationalism, but isn't it quite likely that money is the driving force here? It’s not just the big pharma companies—it's also the government, which stands to save a fortune by offloading other healthcare burdens through this vaccine. My concern is that many will end up paying a high price simply because we don't know enough yet, or perhaps because they haven't been properly informed, or even because there might be contraindications that no one would ever suspect could cause issues after receiving Gardasil. Is it really too early to be this enthusiastic about the medication? We can only try... and then wait. After all, aren't we part of the experiment? Which is, of course, a positive thing for future generations and the advancement of medicine—but in the meantime, shouldn't we be looking out for ourselves? At the very least, we ought to.
wanderingraven9 wanderingraven9 Newcomer
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#82 ·
So, just to mark my 100th post—I'd honestly love to be part of that experiment, but I guess I'm too late. 😢
wanderingcanyon3 wanderingcanyon3 Member
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#83 ·
Grace Diaz76 said:now explain to the clueless how HPV is linked to autism

How do you not know that?😲
Autism is just an advanced stage of an HPV viral infection which, if you don't treat it in time, can even lead to Alzheimer's.
Megan Alvarez70 Megan Alvarez70 Newcomer
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#84 ·
Can anyone tell me how you actually treat this stupid HPV? I just found out I have it. I guess getting vaccinated is the way to go if you want to get rid of it, right? Help please.🤷 🤷 😲
William Brooks35 William Brooks35 Newcomer
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#85 ·
I don't know, just look it up online using English search terms since they say it was actually discovered right here in the USA!!!
I'm really not sure if I should be taking your word for it...
nimbleskipper17 nimbleskipper17 Member
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#86 ·
I suppose I should probably start somewhere, though my thoughts are currently a bit of a scattered mess—much like my desk, if you must know. It’s all quite overwhelming when you really stop to consider the sheer volume of information floating around out there. One moment you think you have a handle on things, and the next, everything feels a little... disjointed. My apologies if I ramble; it's a chronic condition, I'm afraid. Anyway, let's get into it. kaže:
Can anyone tell me how you actually deal with this stupid HPV? I’ve gone and caught it myself. I suppose getting vaccinated is the way to go if you want to get rid of it once and for all... help.🤷 🤷 😲

You can't exactly vaccinate someone who’s already immune. I mean, that's just how it works, right? A vaccine isn't a cure—it's prevention. Once you've already got that protection in your system, getting hit with the shot again... well, it might actually do more harm than good. If any medical professionals out there are reading this, please, feel free to set me straight if I'm totally off base.

I'm really trying my best to hold back from commenting on the rest of this thread... honestly.
coppergardener coppergardener Active Member
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#87 ·
Megan Alvarez70 said:Can anyone tell me how you actually treat this stupid HPV? I’ve already come down with it—I mean, should I still get vaccinated just to get rid of it? Help!🤷 🤷 😲

Exactly—the vaccine isn't going to do much once you've already caught it. Though... I'm not entirely certain, but I think I heard a doctor mention on the radio that you might still get vaccinated to protect against the other types of HPV. Of course, if the virus is already there, it won't help with that specific strain.

First and foremost, you really have to focus on boosting your immune system and staying on top of your checkups. There are some girls here talking about what they used to manage it (though there are probably more threads out there, so maybe try using the search bar?):
George Wilson4 George Wilson4 Member
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#88 ·
So, I figured I’d chime in here too. I spent a good chunk of time digging through various sites a few months back, and I kept running into claims that this specific vaccine is dangerous—some places even suggest it was pulled from the market because it just wasn't sufficiently tested.
No one is out there claiming the HPV virus doesn't exist or isn't linked to cervical cancer; the point being made is simply that the vaccine itself lacks reliability. It feels like it's being pushed way too hard as some kind of miracle cure, likely because they just need more test subjects.
My advice to any young women who aren't in committed relationships? Just wait until this is actually verified. In the meantime, stick to condoms.
nimblemaker52 nimblemaker52 Member
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#89 ·
Condoms offer very little protection against the transmission of HPV, though that certainly doesn't mean you shouldn't be using them in general. 😉
wanderingraven9 wanderingraven9 Newcomer
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#90 ·
Look, until you actually deal with an HPV diagnosis, it’s easy to think you’re just making a choice for yourself—but it's more than that. Once you've already caught HPV, they won't even vaccinate you anymore. I actually checked with my OB-GYN about this—and honestly, once it happens, you really start wishing the vaccine had been available sooner, regardless of what anyone says about whether it works or not. I wouldn't mind if I spent money on something that didn't work, but I'd at least want to know I tried. I'm just hoping things don't get any worse.
Michael Cruz6 Michael Cruz6 Newcomer
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#91 ·
What nonsense. I'd rather take my chances with a different kind of needle. The side effects would be identical—a few days of limping, then back to business as usual.😂
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sanity assasin says: >>
There is already a thread about this, but I am posting again because it is critically important.

Here is the bottom line: DO NOT GET VACCINATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
I am talking about this new HPV vaccine they are pushing so aggressively right now.

Out West, people already realize how dangerous these shots can be. Here in America, they use stuff that most other developed nations have banned—unless you count somewhere like Albania.

Vaccines are a threat to your health.
Believe me, I know what I am talking about. This isn't a joke. If you want to face serious illness or even risk your reproductive system, go ahead and get the shot. There were studies in the USA suggesting vaccines cause dementia and autism.
One child died from a vaccination. THIS IS NO JOKE: tell your female friends to avoid them at all costs!
And if they tell you it is "mandatory," they are lying. Nothing is mandatory if you refuse. They can't force you.
Listen, Americans, I don't want to live in a country where women suffer reproductive failure.
Don't be naive.

Here is a link showing what a vaccine does in extreme cases (warning: it is grim):

http://deathbyvaccination.com/

You should be looking out for your own health.

DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT IS IN THESE VACCINES?

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Mercury-containing hepatitis b for newborns was added in The early 1990 ’ S. Children receive All Thes vaccines, plus mercury-containing DTP, in three to four toxic doses during the first year and a half of their fragile lives, and the vaccines are usually administered simultaneously (multiple mercury-containing vaccines on the same day).
Joseph Taylor11 Joseph Taylor11 Active Member
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#92 ·
Rachel Taylor said:Just wanted to weigh in here. I did some digging online a few months back and kept seeing claims that this vaccine is dangerous—some places even said it was pulled from the market because it wasn't sufficiently tested.
Nobody is claiming HPV doesn't exist or doesn't cause cervical cancer, but the data suggests this vaccine just isn't reliable. It gets marketed like some kind of miracle cure, which probably just means they need more guinea pigs.
My advice to any single women out there? Just wait until this stuff is actually proven safe. In the meantime, stick to condoms.

Look, a vaccine is a product just like anything else, and products need to sell, which is why you see all this heavy advertising... notice how they never mention the downsides (in this case, side effects)!
Every vaccine can have side effects, and sometimes they can be pretty serious. You really have to weigh whether the benefits actually outweigh the risks, just like you would with any other medication.
While HPV is linked to cervical cancer, some people argue the connection isn't quite that straightforward. We don't know nearly enough about HPV, and when information is scarce, it’s incredibly easy for people to manipulate the narrative.
David Green11 David Green11 Member
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#93 ·
nimblemaker52 said:just getting enough sleep and eating a balanced diet isn't some kind of magic wand that will shield you from cancer the way a vaccine—in this specific instance—is scientifically proven to do.

If we are looking at the broader landscape of immunization (and I don't mean just talking about HPV), that logic simply doesn't hold water. In fact, when you look at the data, it turns out that roughly 50% of people who actually fall ill from diseases that have available vaccines were already vaccinated!
Vaccines aren't just potentially harmful with devastating or even fatal consequences; they fail to provide an absolute guarantee of protection against disease altogether!!
Charles Thomas70 Charles Thomas70 Member
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#94 ·
William Vaughn14 said:There’s already a thread on this, but I’m posting again because it’s just that important.

Here is the bottom line: DON'T GET VACCINATED, NO MATTER WHAT.
I am talking about this new HPV vaccine they are advertising everywhere right now.

Go ahead and stick to your posts about God and His holy name or whatever. Don't talk about science, since we all know you people are against it by default anyway.🙄 Keep your nonsense to your own little echo chamber.🙄
Jerry Booth10 Jerry Booth10 Member
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#95 ·
Angela Morales said:Why don't you just stick to your little threads about God and His divine name? Don't even bother bringing up science, because we all know you people are fundamentally opposed to it by default. If you want to spout that kind of nonsense, go ahead and do it in your own private echo chamber.🙄 🙄

I second this.
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Edward Green Edward Green Regular
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#96 ·
wanderingraven9 said:I’m lucky, thank God I had a great gynecologist who caught everything in time, but let's get one thing straight: Vitamin C isn't some magic shield against the high-risk CDC strains that actually cause cancer. Try to wrap your head around that. My mom keeps lecturing me about eating more fruit instead of asking about getting the vaccine...

A strong immune system and a sensible mindset definitely help when dealing with those high-risk CDC strains. 🙂

Almost every woman will run into HPV at some point. Plenty of them deal with the high-risk types, too. But only a tiny fraction of those women actually see the virus activate, and an even smaller percentage end up with cervical cancer. We owe a huge thanks to the pioneers of the Pap smear—that test has absolutely slashed death rates from this disease.

There’s probably a reason why some women develop severe cell abnormalities while others live their whole lives never even knowing they carried the virus, don't you think? And there's surely a reason why doctors tell women dealing with HPV issues to focus on boosting their immune systems.

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