Orange Juice or those old-school commercials?

Megan Peterson87 said:I love Jazz. 👍

Respect to Jazz. But I’m talking about that real deal—the stuff coming out of New Orleans. Most Americans don't even know what actual jazz is anymore. 😢

Ryan Lopez said:Are you talking about those Bushman types who just sit around doing nothing? 😕

I mean, look, an average American guy—standard build, maybe 5'11" and around 200 pounds—who’s busting his tail at work all day, and then if he actually wants to go out and hook up with someone later that night, there is no way he’s getting anything done on 1,400 or even 1,700 calories a day...

When I factor in hitting the gym, working a 12-hour shift, maybe some physical activity with a girlfriend, plus all the stress from work and home... yeah, on 1,400 calories, I can't even sleep properly...

Someone taller and heavier is obviously going to need more fuel...
but I didn't even account for fitness or whatever, because I guess that doesn't count toward "average" caloric needs.

Kyle Nelson2 said:basically, if someone is taller and heavier, they need more calories...
and I didn't even factor in fitness or anything like that, since that's not part of the average calorie requirements

Those "average" needs you're talking about? That's just what a guy burns while he's sleeping.

Kyle Nelson2 said:basically, if someone's taller and heavier, they need more calories...
and I didn't even factor in fitness or anything like that since that's not part of basic calorie needs

What are you even talking about? Is that just the energy needed to pump blood through your veins and breathe? 1300 kcal? If I remember right, a teenage girl needs way more than that. 😁 😁 😁 I think I saw a number like 1800 somewhere, but I can't be bothered to go look up those charts right now.

I think I dug up this data from some spreadsheets somewhere... though it’s based on a much shorter height than mine (I mean, I'm definitely not just 4'11")...
but my point was that if you're doing average daily chores for about an hour, you end up burning more than 10% of your total daily calorie needs.

Kyle Nelson2 said:I pulled those numbers from some spreadsheets I was looking at... even though I’m on the shorter side (yeah, I'm barely hitting 5'0")...
But my point was that if you're doing standard daily chores for just an hour, you're burning more than 10% of your total daily calorie needs.

I don't know about that. If people actually kept a food diary for a day or two and saw the actual calorie counts they were swallowing...

Look, if you aren't gaining weight or losing it, you're probably hitting the sweet spot.

I wouldn't know, placidfox55, but I haven't really noticed Americans having a massive craving for soda. Most people here seem much more focused on their coffee. Only someone completely misguided would actually believe an industrial soft drink is even remotely comparable to fresh fruit.

Honestly, I think people everywhere have just lost their minds. It seems to me the real issue is that so many people are struggling with depression and general dissatisfaction, so they try to fill that void with endless amounts of junk food.

Kimberly Davis52 said:What exactly are you talking about here? Like, the energy needed just to keep your blood pumping through your veins and to breathe and stuff? Because if we're looking at 1,300 calories, I'm pretty sure a teenage girl needs way more than that. 😁 😁 😁 I think I saw some charts mentioning 1,800 somewhere, but honestly, I can't be bothered to go look up those nutrition tables right now.

Look, calorie needs aren't one-size-fits-all; they depend entirely on your gender, height, and weight.

Chris Morgan67 said:I don't know, placidfox55, I haven't really noticed Americans being obsessed with soda. Most people here are way more into coffee. Honestly, only complete idiots would actually believe that some mass-produced industrial juice is the same thing as eating fresh fruit.

Personally, I barely touch the stuff, and I absolutely loathe Coke, 👎
but let's be real: it's just a massive pile of empty calories.
And the truth is, we've been bombarded by advertisements for decades to the point where we've started viewing certain junk foods as a total MUST.
But why act surprised? 😁 We're basically just reinventing the wheel here. 😁

Chris Morgan67 said:Only an idiot would actually believe that some processed juice from a factory is the same thing as eating fresh fruit.

We both know that. But there's a massive group of kids out there who aren't spending enough time at home to learn that from their parents. Instead, they're being schooled by commercials everywhere—in the gym, at clubs, on TV, or just walking down the street...

Ask them why they’re slamming energy drinks while they're hitting the weights at the gym. Is it to give them more stamina for their workout? If it wasn't so pathetic, it would be hilarious.

placidfox55 said:We both know that. But a lot of young people aren't spending enough time with their parents to learn those lessons, so they end up learning from the ads they see at the gym, in clubs, on TV, or just out on the street...

Ask them why they're slamming energy drinks mid-workout. To get "extra energy" for their lifting? If it weren't so tragic, it would be hysterical...

I hear you, but I suppose I'm just being naive by ignoring how incredibly foolish some people can be...

It makes me wonder when we reached this level of sheer excess and decadence...😕

restlessmarlin6 said:Caloric needs depend on your gender, height, and weight.

Yeah, I get that, but I think people just use this as a rough average. Seriously, I don't know anyone who actually sits down and calculates their basal metabolic rate, then adds in precisely how many minutes they spent walking to the bus stop + sitting around + standing up + watching TV + vacuuming + ...
to figure out exactly what they need to eat.

placidfox55 said:We don't have a massive obesity problem yet, but over the last decade, the number of overweight people in the US has shot up dramatically. We seriously need to start watching every unnecessary calorie we take in:

- sipping on Orange Juice just because we're bored (why not just have blueberry tea instead?)
- Coca-Cola, Sprite, ... (what's missing from diet soda or the caffeine hit from tea/coffee?)
- any kind of sugary snacks (why not apple slices with almonds instead?)
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I don't really sweat the calories since my husband and I are thin, though our kid is a bit chubby—but not from the stuff listed above. My concern is food quality. Most of what was mentioned is basically junk grown on industrial mega-farms loaded with pesticides...
so; I make my own juice with a juicer, I only have soda a few times a year (everyone's pushing it right now for the holidays 😬), and you can easily swap snacks for walnuts or almonds (like the boss suggested)... I let my two-year-old clean up her own mess into a bowl; she sets it down, watches cartoons, and munches away...😍

Eating healthy is hands down the best way to go. But let’s be real—life moves way too fast most days to actually stick to some perfect wellness routine... And here’s the kicker, the total Paradox: the industry loves to exploit that whole "healthy living" craze. It’s infuriating how unprocessed, actual good food costs a fortune, while all that junk loaded with chemicals just to make it last longer or taste fake is dirt cheap...

Kimberly Davis52 said:Look, I get it, but I feel like people just treat this stuff like some sort of rough average. To be honest, I don't know a single soul who actually sits down and calculates their basal metabolic rate, then adds in ten minutes of walking to the bus stop, plus sitting time, plus standing time, plus watching TV, plus vacuuming... all that junk.
so they just roughly estimate how much they need to eat.

Honestly, anyone who’s maintained a healthy weight for most of their life and actually listens to what their body is telling them doesn't need to do any of that math. And frankly, that's how it should be.

On the flip side, though, I guess it’s a useful tool for people who have a messed up relationship with food—you know, those who can't tell the difference between actual hunger and just being bored, or people who barely move at all. Either way, it’s definitely better than following those insane fad diets or just starving yourself.🙂

I've been scrolling through this thread for a bit, and honestly, I can't help but think 🙂has aged poorly.