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How often should I train Wing Chun?

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A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#1 ·
I’m guessing most Wing Chun practitioners hit the gym two or three times a week for their regular club sessions. But honestly, how much time are you actually putting in at home on your own? And more importantly, what does your solo routine look like?
If you're feeling generous, I'd love to hear about your personal training habits.
As for me, life gets busy, so I can't always pull off a full-blown workout session every single day. That said, I make sure to run through Siu Lim Tao once a day and squeeze in about 30 minutes of solo drills whenever I can.
What about you guys? What’s your routine looking like, and what are your training goals?

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Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#2 ·
Hey! I'm definitely down to get into this discussion...
...so let's get the ball rolling;
-to be honest, I hit the gym for two hours every other day. Sometimes I'll go on a streak for a few days straight, but I can't sustain it because my body eventually demands a break. In the end, it mostly boils down to an every-other-day routine...
...that 30-minute window felt way too short to me. I could never bring myself to clear my schedule just for 30 minutes of work...but I'll leave that out there for now.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#3 ·
Sun Tzu said:...hey!...I'm totally down to jump into this debate...
...so let's get this show on the road;
-real talk, I hit the gym every other day for about two hours, sometimes I'll go a few days in a row, but it doesn't last long because my body eventually screams for a break, so basically it all boils down to every other day...
...that 30-minute window felt way too short; I could never find it worth my time to schedule my whole life around just 30 minutes...but hey, I'll leave that out there...

How much training does it actually take to be good? Like, enough to handle yourself if things get ugly on the street?
Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#4 ·
...it all comes down to the individual...
Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#5 ·
...Look, anyone can defend themselves on a street corner without knowing a single martial arts move. You just need some grit and heart, and that’s really it...
...Now, when you start training, you get this little ego boost. You feel like you actually possess some kind of specialized power or an edge because you know how to fight. It gives you this false sense of security, almost like you're carrying a weapon...but eventually, that illusion shatters at light speed. It completely evaporates. In the end, once you've seen enough, you realize that having those skills doesn't change the fundamental reality of a confrontation...
...which basically means you wind up right back where you started...
urbanotter5 urbanotter5 Member
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#6 ·
I assumed we were discussing training frequency. I hope we aren't pivoting back to street effectiveness again.

My approach is rooted in those old-school "discipline comes from within" principles—sort of a wax on, wax off mentality.

I hit the gym twice a week, then run drills at home every single day to stay sharp. And naturally, I head out to the clubs on the weekend.
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#7 ·
I hit the gym every single day for strength training and conditioning. And obviously...

What exactly does "conditioning" mean to you, and how much time do you usually sink into it on average?

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A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#8 ·
Justin Watson58 said:...hey there!...I'm more than happy to jump into this discussion...
...so let's get things moving;
-to be honest, I usually carve out about two hours every other day. Sometimes I'll get on a roll and train several days in a row, but it doesn't last long because my body eventually demands some downtime, so realistically, it mostly boils down to an every-other-day routine...
...that 30-minute window felt a bit too short to me; I always struggled to justify scheduling my day around just 30 minutes...but I'll leave that as an open question for now...

It’s actually a solid idea. The key would be making sure our daily—or every-other-day—sessions become a genuine habit. If I take a break for even a little while, it takes way more mental energy to get back into the groove...
Either way, doing 30 minutes a day, provided you're actually consistent, can do wonders for building discipline and will likely sharpen your skills too.
Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#9 ·
urbanotter5 said:I thought the question was about how often you train. Don't tell me we're pivoting back to street effectiveness again.

I train for those old-school "discipline comes from within" reasons. Wax on, wax off.

Twice a week at the gym, plus daily conditioning and drills at home. And yeah, I hit the club on weekends, obviously.

...noooo, I wasn't trying to change the subject, I was just actually answering the question...
Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#10 ·
capiscone said:It’s a decent thought. But the real trick is making that daily grind a permanent habit. If I take even a short break, getting back into the groove takes way too much effort...
Either way, doing 30 minutes a day—and I mean every single day—does wonders for building discipline. It'll probably sharpen your skills, too.

...30 minutes sounds fine for now; but are we talking about a full-blown workout during those 30 minutes or what???...

...let's say I can't make it to the gym two or three times a week; let's even say I can barely swing by the gym twice or three times a month; then let's say I can only show up to the gym a couple of times a year...should I still be hitting 30 minutes a day, or should that time be scaled up...
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#11 ·
Justin Watson58 said:...is 30 minutes a day reasonable? And specifically, does that 30-minute window cover a full daily training session or just a quick drill?

...let’s say I can't make it down to the gym two or three times a week; let's even push it further and say I can only swing by twice or three times a month; hell, let's say I can only get to the facility a couple of times a year... in that scenario, would 30 minutes of home practice still cut it, or should I be looking at longer sessions?

Since there are some clearly sharp minds on this forum, I wanted to toss out a question related to the topic at hand.
I'm about to start training and I'm curious: which is more effective, Wing Chun or Ninjutsu?
Justin Adams5 Justin Adams5 Active Member
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#12 ·
Santa Claus said:Since there seem to be some smart people on this forum, I wanted to ask a quick question related to the topic.
I’m about to start training and I'm wondering: which is more effective, Wing Chun or Ninjutsu?

someone's gonna be a lightweight soon😬 🤣
Alex Ward3 Alex Ward3 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Santa Claus said:Since there seem to be some pretty bright minds on this forum, I wanted to ask a question that’s somewhat related to the topic.
I'm about to start training, and I'm curious—which is more effective, Wing Chun or Ninjutsu?


Hey everyone, just wanted to jump in here. Even though I train Aikido, I follow a lot of Wing Chun techniques and find them really impressive. Regarding the question asked, I was wondering if choosing between Wing Chun or Ninjutsu depends on whether you want to master a skill specifically for "street" defense?

In my opinion, a street conflict usually doesn't happen unless someone actively goes looking for it. Some might say I'm being unrealistic because they've been attacked without provocation, but the truth is that people carry an energy about them that others can sense. It's something those types who go out looking for trouble pick up on immediately.

When it comes to "learning" Wing Chun, Ninjutsu, Aikido, Kickboxing, or any other martial art, the real issue is that everyone wants a shortcut. They want fast results, but that's just not how it works. It's a long road to building yourself up internally so that you don't freeze up when things get real. If you haven't built that mental foundation, no fancy move you learned in a gym is going to save you when fear and insecurity take over.

Years of consistent practice and working on your own character are what truly ensure that neither the streets nor any other situation can shake you. First off, you have to ask yourself if you'll ever even face a conflict. Secondly, if you actually witness someone being victimized, having that training gives you the ability to step in and help if you absolutely have to.

Those "tough guys" who walk around acting like they're invincible are usually just bullies playing on people's fears, but... 🙂
Brandon Hayes73 Brandon Hayes73 Newcomer
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#14 ·
You mentioned you aren't showing up to practice consistently, but honestly, there’s really no other way to go about this—you have to be out there training all the time if you want results. It's not even up for debate! If you're only rolling up to the gym once every couple of weeks, you might as well not bother at all, because what's the point of even picking up a martial art? And let's talk about Aikido, because even though most practitioners try to downplay that specific part of the discipline...

On the flip side, I totally get where you're coming from regarding safety; it's definitely more likely that you'll get taken out by a runaway trash can rolling down a steep hill in Seattle than by some random bully on the street. But hey, the possibility is still out there, isn't it?
Jamie Fowler2 Jamie Fowler2 Member
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#15 ·
Word is you gotta put in at least an hour a day for those first 100 days. After that... it takes way less time to maintain the "physique" the skill builds, and things just stay sharp over time.
Gerald Smith76 Gerald Smith76 Active Member
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#16 ·
Alex Ward3 said:I don't think street conflicts happen unless you provoke them yourself. People will probably say I'm talking nonsense because they'll claim they didn't do anything and still got attacked, but the truth is everyone radiates an energy that people can sense. Certain types of people pick up on that and actively seek out someone who fits their specific target profile.


That’s why building self-confidence and working on your own energy matters, right?
Aggressive, high-contact training isn't actually all that useful.
Which is exactly why Brandon Hayes73 goes for Aikido...

It just reminded me of something that happened the other day; it's a perfect example.

There's a field next to my house, near a local elementary school. I have to walk past it on my way to campus. I was heading to class around 2:00 PM when I spotted this kid—maybe 15 years old—wearing a belt, playing some country music on his phone, and swinging a real hunting knife around while walking through the field. He had this look on his face like he stepped straight out of a gritty crime drama in Chicago; I haven't seen anything like it in a long time. He stopped and stared at me with this unsettling expression, clutching that knife—I honestly 😲 felt like he was going to jump me out of nowhere. Eventually, he just flipped the knife around in his hand (blade toward his elbow, handle forward) and kept walking. 😕 😕
Brandon Hayes73 Brandon Hayes73 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Imagine if we hadn't had 😱 😱 stepping up to the plate instead of 😕 😕
Gerald Smith76 Gerald Smith76 Active Member
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#18 ·
Brandon Hayes73 said:if it hadn't been for 😱 😱 instead of 😕 😕


I didn't feel like looking for 😱, so I just threw in 😲
But what happened, happened. For a split second, I actually thought they were going to come after me
urbanotter5 urbanotter5 Member
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#19 ·
capiscone said:What does that conditioning actually entail, and how much time do you usually put in?

🙄

A few variations of sit-ups and push-ups—multiple sets—horse stance, weightlifting, things like that. Some standard gym movements mixed with some Tao of Jeet Kune Do drills.

Then I listen to Biohazard and practice my breathing techniques.
Justin Watson58 Justin Watson58 Member
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#20 ·
...this is a total disaster...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv6p9...elated&search=

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