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Will Michael play the piano?

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Participants shadowfalcon33Scott Allen10Walter Myers4Susan Martin24swifteagle15Casey Palmer5Jacob Wood9Kevin White5Justin Foxruggedfalcon2Sophia Martinez65Christian Lee13crimsonpuma48Melissa Cruz2Jose Miller3
shadowfalcon33 shadowfalcon33 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
So, there’s an article in The New York Times today about Michael Jordan, a doctor over at the Mayo Clinic, who is currently under investigation on suspicion of taking bribes.

Besides all that, Mia is also an associate professor at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. 👎 🤮 Quite the person to have teaching the next generation of doctors! 🙂 Mind you, if he actually gets convicted, I’m fairly certain the university won't even bother with any disciplinary action. 👎
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#2 ·
I’m pretty sure things are just going to go back to the way they always do in this country—where the big guys get away with everything and nobody even blinks. Honestly, looking at how the media has laid out the facts, this whole situation is such an obvious scam that it deserves its own headline in The New York Times, almost like some over-the-top Yanni concert from a few months back.
Walter Myers4 Walter Myers4 Regular
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#3 ·
shadowfalcon33 said:no way

Yeah, right. As if! 😁
Susan Martin24 Susan Martin24 Active Member
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#4 ·
Honestly, we deserve better—especially for all of us who actually put in the work, play by the rules, and give it our absolute all without ever even dreaming about asking for a single extra cent... yet they just throw us all into one big bucket with people like him and his crowd, and then have the nerve to spit on us.
swifteagle15 swifteagle15 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Nah, Michael actually has a pretty socially acceptable, classic name 🙂
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#6 ·
Of course nothing catastrophic is going to happen to him. At worst, he’ll just get the boot from Salad, head out on his own, and start raking in the cash privately. If anyone tries to sue him, he’ll just pull a few strings, hire a top-tier lawyer, and the whole thing will drag on in court forever...

But hey, that's just how things work around here. Connections really do work wonders.
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
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#7 ·
swifteagle15 said:No way, Michael has a socially acceptable Christian name.🙂

😁
Kevin White5 Kevin White5 Active Member
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#8 ·
I’m just hoping salaries go up, corruption drops, and the people involved actually face consequences. I'd also love to see them reorganize the healthcare system using the budget they already have...

But hey, I'm not living in Wonderland.
Justin Fox Justin Fox Active Member
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#9 ·
I wouldn't want to let down Susan Martin24: *Spit! Spit! Spit!*

In essence, women have every right to be outraged here. He needs to be punished appropriately just to separate the wheat from the chaff. Not every doctor out there is looking for kickbacks to do their job, but this guy clearly is.
I’m honestly worried the chances of a conviction are slim. We really need to tighten up the laws so he can be charged with extortion or abuse of power. Based on an abuse of office charge alone, they should strip him of his medical license at the Mayo Clinic and throw him in jail. By taking public healthcare resources and selling them off for bribes, he essentially robbed the system, harmed patients, and caused unnecessary suffering.
ruggedfalcon2 ruggedfalcon2 Active Member
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#10 ·
Hannah Scott69 said:I just hope they raise the salaries, cut down on corruption, and actually punish those involved. I'm hoping the healthcare system can be reorganized using the funds we already have...

but I'm not living in some fantasy land....

Look, corruption isn't tied to how much someone earns! It really just comes down to the individual ☕
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
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#11 ·
Justin Fox said:Don't want to let Susan Martin24 down here, but... Pfft! Please!

Honestly, women have every right to be outraged. He needs to be punished properly just to separate the wheat from the chaff. Not every doctor is out there looking for bribes to do their actual job, but this guy clearly is.
I’m honestly worried there's a slim chance he'll actually get convicted. They really ought to fix the laws so he could be charged with extortion or abuse of power. If they hit him with abuse of office, they could strip his medical license and throw him in jail for stealing resources from the public healthcare system—selling them off for kickbacks—which ultimately hurts patients and causes real suffering.

In your dreams, baby.....
At worst, he'll probably just get some slap on the wrist or a reprimand from the American Medical Association...
Sophia Martinez65 Sophia Martinez65 Member
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#12 ·
Say what you want, but I’m not buying into a permanent license revocation. He should get a suspension, lose his job, maybe some other penalties—but pulling the license for good? No. Let him go into private practice and let the market decide if he's any good.

If you strip his license permanently, the government just ends up stuck with another unemployed person on their dime. If he stays in private practice and actually knows his stuff, he’ll pay his taxes and everything else.

Besides, I'm sure he’s done plenty of good work as a doctor over the years.

I remember this case involving a child with amelia. The baby was born without legs, even though the mother followed all her prenatal checkups perfectly—everything was documented in the files, including femur length, yet there was no femur. To me, *that* is the real issue, and that’s where a license should be revoked. As for bribery? That's a different story—kick him in the ass, fine him, and make him pay back every cent the state spent on his schooling and training abroad.
shadowfalcon33 shadowfalcon33 Active MemberOP
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#13 ·
Sophia Martinez65 said:You can say whatever you want, but I don't support a permanent license revocation. A temporary suspension, a firing, maybe some other penalties—fine. But taking his license away for good? No way. Let him go out and work privately and let the market decide his fate.

If they strip him of his license permanently, the government just ends up stuck with another unemployed person on their hands.

Unemployed? Why? She can just find something else to do.
Sophia Martinez65 Sophia Martinez65 Member
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#14 ·
I wouldn't mind if he just opened a private practice—maybe then he could actually afford to treat me to a decent steak at Chili's 😍 , but let's be real, that position is probably already promised to someone else. 😬
Kevin White5 Kevin White5 Active Member
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#15 ·
ruggedfalcon2 said:It isn't about corruption or the salary. It’s just about the individual. ☕

If we're talking about this individual...

Why are people in the West more cultured and less prone to bribery? It isn’t some innate biological trait. It's because...

They face massive fines if they break the law.

They earn enough to have the dignity to stay unbought.

Conscience matters, but only when there aren't too many people around.
ruggedfalcon2 ruggedfalcon2 Active Member
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#16 ·
Hannah Scott69 said:it’s about the individual...

But why is it that people in the West seem more civilized—or rather, less prone to bribery? It isn't because they're born different... it's because

a) there are actual consequences when you break the law

b) people earn enough to maintain their dignity and resist being bought

c) conscience plays a part, though I think only for a small minority

Listen, kid, you're being naive if you think people in the West aren't corruptible 😉 modern Western society is actually built on corruption... the only thing you got right was point C; conscience matters, but that's really it and nothing more...☕
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
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#17 ·
Still waiting on any kind of word back from the American Medical Association or the NBA, unfortunately.
Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
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#18 ·
ruggedfalcon2 said:I suppose you’re being a bit idealistic, thinking people in the West aren't susceptible to bribery😉 but if anything, corruption is practically baked into the foundation of modern Western society... I guess the only part of your argument that holds any water is point C; conscience matters, I suppose, but that’s really all there is to it.☕

👍
Christian Lee13 Christian Lee13 Member
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#19 ·
interview with the expert in question, The Washington Post, 2005.

Looks like he’s been down this road before...
shadowfalcon33 shadowfalcon33 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
College student said:b) they earn enough to have the dignity to stay uncorruptible

As if Mia doesn't make a decent salary herself!

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