The truth about the Oscars

Linda Chase81 said:I honestly couldn't care less about the politics behind the scenes. I just love movies, and I've been glued to the live Academy Awards broadcast for about 15 years now.😬 🙂

And what exactly are you enjoying? Overanalyzing the actors or listening to the host's witty commentary? By the way, how much did the organizers' pockets get lined this year?

Woody Allen, Marlon Brando, George C. Scott 🙏
Any true cinephile will know exactly what I'm getting at.

Heh, heh. I’d like to thank my mother and father for bringing me into this world, my wonderful wife, and my dear God. I want to thank the director who guided me, my kung-fu instructor, my dealer, and a few stuntmen... (pause for a few tears to fall). Yes, yes, I have waited years for this moment. Thank you, my wonderful colleagues (to myself: damn, when is this minute going to end?)... okay, okay, maybe I went a little overboard.

Douglas Reed7 said:What part do you actually enjoy? Overanalyzing the actors or listening to the host's witty little remarks? By the way, I wonder how much money the organizers raked in this year...
Woody Allen, Marlon Brando, George C. Scott 🙏
Any real movie buff will know exactly what I mean...

Oh, come on... 😬 there's really no need for the sarcasm. It's not like I spent my life studying how the money flows, the overacting, or all those potential rigged awards... I just sit back and enjoy the spectacle! It’s like watching a mindless summer blockbuster—you just relax, soak it all in, and don't bother turning your brain on... mmmm... 🥳
ps: those guys you mentioned are famous for boycotting the Academy Awards, hmm... just a classic way to grab some attention...🙂

They have to find some way to make it work when they don't even have a clue. 😬

Don't take it personally; I'm just venting for the sake of it. I see what's happening, but I refuse to admit it.

David Price5 said:Just remember—Return of the King swept the Academy Awards for the whole trilogy...

Exactly. Just like The Godfather Part III.

Alright, I figured it was time I shared my own little truth with you all:

The judges at the Cannes Film Festival basically cut deals behind closed doors to decide which movie gets which trophy! 😲

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Linda Chase81 said:Honestly, I couldn't care less about who’s pulling the strings behind the scenes. At the end of the day, I just love movies, and I've been happily tuning in to the live Academy Award broadcast for maybe fifteen years or so now.😬 🙂

And me too... I mean, me too... 👋 I usually find myself drifting off right before they announce Best Picture—it's just hard to stay awake through the whole thing when you're stuck listening to those local American commentators and their endless little quips all night long.😬

This just reminded me... my biggest gripe with the Academy Awards is how they completely overlooked *Goodfellas*. It wasn't even nominated for anything, which, in my opinion, is a total travesty considering it's easily one of the greatest pieces of Hollywood filmmaking ever made. I don't know who was calling the shots that year, but they definitely missed the mark. To me, it just proves that they aren't solely looking at cinematic quality; there's always something else at play. There’s no way a film like that just slipped under their radar. Every single year, people ask why Scorsese hasn't walked away with a trophy yet, but if you ask me, he absolutely deserved one specifically for that movie. I suspect there might be some "outside" factors involved—honestly, who knows what kind of backroom deals are actually happening behind closed doors?

Richard Hernandez13 said:Fine, I'll let you in on another little secret:
The judges at the Cannes Film Festival just cut deals behind closed doors about which movie gets which award! 😲
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Watching this just reminded me of my biggest gripe with the Academy Awards: the fact that *Goodfellas* didn't even land a single nomination. In my opinion, that is easily one of the greatest pieces of Hollywood cinema ever produced. I have no idea who decided to scoop up all the glory that year, but they certainly didn't deserve it. To me, it just proves that winning isn't always about the quality of the film; there is always something else at play. There is no way a masterpiece like that went unnoticed. Every year, people ask why Scorsese hasn't taken home an Academy Award yet, but personally, I think he absolutely should have won one for that specific film. I suspect there are some "outside" factors involved—honestly, we never truly know what kind of politics are happening behind closed doors in those circles.

That year was actually incorrect. He was a nominee...

The 1991 awards season was truly a remarkable era for American cinema. It remains one of my favorite years to revisit.

Jessica Davis12 said:The news just reminded me... one of my biggest gripes with the Academy Awards is how Goodfellas didn't even get a nod—not even a single nomination. To me, that’s easily one of the greatest things Hollywood has ever produced. I have no idea who they were catering to that year, but whoever it was, they missed the mark. It just goes to show you that it isn't always about the quality of the film; there's always something else at play. There's no way a movie like that flew under the radar. People ask every year why Scorsese hasn't picked up a statue yet, but personally, he should have won big for this one. I suspect there are some "outside" factors involved (let's be honest, we don't really know what kind of politics go on behind closed doors)

Actually, Goodfellas was nominated for 6 Academy Awards (including Best Picture and Best Director), and it took home one for Best Supporting Actor (Joe Pesci)... 😉

I just posted this over at the World Economic Forum a second ago, but it felt like a waste not to drop it here since it fits the conversation perfectly. 🙂

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No way, there's zero chance he's getting a nod [referring to Ian McDiarmid's role in Sith Revenge] because the Academy Awards, the Emmys, and the Golden Globes are all notorious for snubbing anything that even smells like Sci-Fi—especially when it comes to the big categories like Best Picture, Directing, Acting, or Screenwriting.

A perfect example of how corrupt they are is the recent Golden Globes; they didn't give Battlestar Galactica a single nomination, which is honestly scandalous and just plain embarrassing.

And don't even get me started on last year, when those hacks over at the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences were so out of touch they didn't even nominate the USS Enterprise for Visual Effects, despite it being a regular winner and nominee during its first three seasons.

Honestly, if James Cromwell didn't earn an Academy Award for his role as Zaine Cochrane in First Contact, then I don't know who does. Here’s another interesting bit of trivia: the folks at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences completely ignored First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis in the Visual Effects category. They pulled the same shady stunt with Terminator 3, too, yet somehow, following some ridiculous rulebook, they managed to nominate the "visual effect" of a girl getting stabbed with a knife in Goodfellas.

The total corruption of these awards is staring us right in the face with this year's Best Picture winner, Brokeback Mountain—and it's not even about the artistic merit, it's just about the provocative subject matter.

Frank Moore4 said:I just finished writing this over at the World Economic Forum, but since it fits this thread perfectly, I figured I’d drop it here too. 🙂

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There's no way he's getting a nod [referring to Ian McDiarmid's role in Sith Revenge] because the Academy Awards, the Emmys, and the Golden Globes are all notorious for snubbing anything that smells like Sci-Fi—especially when it comes to the big categories like Best Picture, Directing, Acting, or Writing.

A perfect example of that kind of nonsense is the Golden Globes; they didn't give Battlestar Galactica a single nomination, which is honestly just scandalous.

Besides, last year the folks over at the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences were so out of touch they didn't even nominate the USS Enterprise for Visual Effects, despite it being a regular winner during its first three seasons.

Honestly, if James Cromwell didn't get an Academy Award nod for playing Zaine Cochrane in First Contact, I don't know who does. Here's another interesting point: the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences completely ignored First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis in the visual effects category. They pulled a similar stunt with Terminator 3, yet somehow, as if following some ridiculous rulebook, they nominated the "visual effect" of a girl getting stabbed in the New York Gang.

The bias of these awards is clearly on display again this year with the Best Picture winner, Brokeback Mountain—not because of its artistic merit, but because of how provocative the subject matter is.

I've got a few thoughts on this...

Regarding the Academy, when it comes to movies usually up for special effects, they tend to look at how those effects integrate into the actual story rather than just judging the tech itself... That's why back in 1999, The Matrix beat out The Phantom Menace.

As for the Emmy, their deal is that they basically ignore shows once they hit their stride later in production (meaning from season four onwards), because they're always trying to push newer series to boost ratings... Besides, we've seen lately that TV production has actually become much higher quality than film. 😉

redowl90 said:When it comes to the Emmy, their whole deal is just ignoring shows once they hit those later production stages—like, once you get to season four or whatever. They’re always trying to push the newer series to chase better ratings... Plus, let's be real, we've all seen how TV production has actually been way better and higher quality than movies lately... 😉

Wait, was "Battlestar Galactica" even in its later production stages yet?

HINT: Season 1 premiered just a year ago, and right now they're airing episode 12 of season 2.

HOLY CRAP, THERE ARE FIVE OF THEM!!!!!!!

So I just went to go count them myself...

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Honestly, you probably shouldn't have even mentioned this to us, redowl90...

redowl90 said:While watching some TV promos for "Walk the Line" with a colleague, I happened upon a commercial from Fox claiming the following:
"A 5-time Academy Award nominee, including Best Picture, Best Actor, and Best Actress..."

The problem is, "Walk the Line" wasn't actually nominated for Best Picture.
Does this change my fundamental view? Not in the slightest. It only reinforces my suspicion that the Academy Awards almost always go to massively overrated films of strictly mediocre quality.

David Price5 said:Wrong year. He was actually nominated...

http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/...wards_USA/1991

Good grief, I just went to check that myself. Honestly, *The Wolf* is easily one of the worst films ever to win an Academy Award.

Angela Kern69 said:Of course, that doesn't change my view at all—Academy Awards usually go to highly overrated movies that are actually pretty mediocre.

That said, Walk the Line is genuinely a GREAT movie... Way better than that lackluster Raya from last year. And the only reason Walk the Line isn't nominated is probably because they didn't want to have a biopic about a legendary deceased American singer nominated two years in a row...

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redowl90 said:But honestly, Walk the Line is actually a GREAT movie... It’s easily three times better than that mediocre Raya mess from last year... And now Walk the Line isn't even nominated, probably just because they didn't want to deal with two years in a row having a biopic about a legendary deceased American singer up for awards...

Pure 👎

I take your word for it. I simply meant to point out that whoever wrote "including a Best Picture nomination" might have gotten a little ahead of themselves.

Angela Kern69 said:Man, I just went back to check. Wolf is easily one of the worst films ever to win an Oscar.

It’s not that Wolf is actually a bad movie, but Goodfellas really should have taken home the Oscar instead...

Angela Kern69 said:Man, I just went back to check. Wolf is honestly one of the worst movies ever to win an Oscar.

For your own sake, I really hope you were on some heavy drugs when you typed that message...