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Participants Christian Sanchez44Kevin Chavez3Jose Chase2Tyler Grant86gentlepuma20Jason Chavez32Ethan Perez28Richard Lee33Jason Diaz34boldscout72Jonathan PalmerNicholas Perez33lonebison37shadowgardener12Michael Mitchellwiredfalcon2ironcrane7A
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
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#21 ·
Ethan Perez28 - so you're telling me the Chicago underground duos and trios aren't actually bands?
And what about the Tamara Obrovac Ensemble... they aren't a band either?
Wait, is Kammerflimmer Kollektief not a band?
Is the Dave Brubeck Quartet not even a band?
Man, I am clearly living in a total delusion here...
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#22 ·
lonebison37 said:Is Kammerflimmer Kollektief not even a band?

Kammerflimmer Kollektief πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Ponor said:it wasn't some bot that wrote this, it was me, you little punk... 😁

😲 I can't even hear myself think without getting worked up.
dammit, everything actually made sense for once... 😳 πŸ˜‰
my bad. screw it. just screw all of it.
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#24 ·
I’ve honestly never heard anyone call a string quartet playing classical music a "band" unless they were clearly making a joke, but hey, whatever floats your boat...πŸ™„

By the way, even the Chicago Underground Quartet is considered a bandπŸ˜‰ but those guys are jazz musicians, not classical

Look, I’m not trying to mock you or anything, it just struck me as pretty funny😁
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
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#25 ·
jimmy jazz said:The Pacific Northwest indie sceneπŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

And what on earth is supposed to be "enhancing the experience" about them? They’re just miserable, rainy messes...
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#26 ·
Look, why is everyone jumping down her throat calling her conceited? She wasn't trying to be malicious, and honestly, she’s probably the only one on this entire board who actually picks up on what’s going on here.πŸ™„
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#27 ·
Ethan Perez28 said:I’ve honestly never heard anyone call a string quartet playing classical music a "band" unless they were joking. But hey, whatever you say...πŸ™„

btw. even the Chicago Underground Quartet is called a band,πŸ˜‰ but they're jazzers.

Look, I'm not making fun of you. It just caught me off guard...😁

If they're playing classical or chamber music, it isn't a band.πŸ˜‰
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#28 ·
lonebison37 said:What exactly made you think the experience was better? They’re actually pretty dull and rainy.

It's actually called πŸ˜‚
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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#29 ·
shadowgardener12 said:If they're playing classical or chamber music, you can't really call them a band.πŸ˜‰

They aren't performing as a "band," or whatever, which is exactly my point, isn't it?πŸ˜‰
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
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#30 ·
Ethan Perez28 said:I’ve honestly never heard anyone call a string quartet playing classical music a "band" unless they were being sarcastic, but hey, whatever floats your boat...πŸ™„

By the way, even the Chicago Underground Quartet is technically called a bandπŸ˜‰ but those guys are clearly jazz musicians

Look, I’m not making fun of you or anything, it just caught me off guard and made me laugh a little😁

I really thought I was going to learn something new here, but apparently not. They aren't exactly "classical purists," which is pretty much their whole deal anyway.
Let's take a quick look at AllMusic.
"No one seems quite clear as to whether they're a classical group with jazz and populist leanings, or a populist band with classical expertise."
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#31 ·
So they aren't exactly "bands" 😁 regardless of how you look at it. πŸ˜‰

There’s a massive gap between a pop, rock, or free jazz outfit and more traditional global music... though free jazz is really the gray area. You have everything from free jazz bands to trios, quartets, or even full symphonies... 😁
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
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#32 ·
Ethan Perez28, shadowgardener12, seriously, you guys need to take a much closer look at what Kronos Quartet is actually doing... they play everything under the sun. You’ve got them tucked away under Classical, sure, but then you see them listed under Pop too. It's not like I have every single discography memorized, but it's pretty obvious they're tackling Bill Evans, Hendrix, Bollywood, African rhythms... you name it...
I honestly have no clue what kind of nonsense you're spinning or what logic leads you to believe they "should" only ever be labeled as a classical quartet!
Besides, no matter how much you argue, it's all just a waste of breath... πŸ˜πŸ™„
shadowgardener12 shadowgardener12 Active Member
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#33 ·
Not sure what they're actually playing, but I know the difference between a free jazz band and a quartet, so I’m speaking theoretically here πŸ˜‰

It doesn't matter if they cover Hendrix.

My favorite group plays everything from Kraftwerk πŸ‘, to folk tunes, to Indian ragasβ€”and they're just a trio πŸ˜‰
with two violins and a double bass.

They do chamber and classical stuff too... though they were at their best when they mashed up Bond with some light nocturnes by Mozart. Total virtuosos.
Michael Mitchell Michael Mitchell Newcomer
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#34 ·
what are you guys even talking about here? i don't get any of this
Richard Lee33 Richard Lee33 Newcomer
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#35 ·
lonebison37 said:You’re claiming you’re a true fan because SOMEONE TOLD YOU YESTERDAY that they were the ones who composed the soundtrack for Requiem for Dreams. That doesn't hold up.😁

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What a joke of a debate.
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
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#36 ·
Sure, you could technically call them a quartet if you want to get all technical about it, but i honestly, they function just as much as a full-blown band. Besides, repeating the exact same words over and over in a single sentence is just terrible writing... πŸ˜›
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
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#37 ·
Angela Chavez36 said:πŸ‘‹
what kind of debate is this.. lol

don't let them get to you, don't give an inchβ€”that's what wiredfalcon2 would say right before wandering off into the woods.

...wasn't paying attention...
Jason Diaz34 Jason Diaz34 Newcomer
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#38 ·
Mr. Wrong said:Come on, she even added a smiley face and everything. Don't sweat it.

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't being serious (and honestly, I have no desire to argue about it), but that second sentence was just a joke.
Ethan Perez28 Ethan Perez28 Active Member
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joined Jun 2005
#39 ·
Michael Mitchell said:what are you guys even talking about here? I have no idea what you mean

honestly, I'm just as lost as you are, though I'm pretty sure I made myself clear enough earlier, but whatever, this whole conversation is just getting stupidπŸ™„
ironcrane7 ironcrane7 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#40 ·
And here I was, thinking the whole debate over the divide between high and low culture had become completely irrelevant...
You clearly aren't much for double bass or chamber music, are you?

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