So, does homeopathy actually work?

So, I guess it’s just considered "normal" to slip a little something extra into a doctor's envelope when you're heading in for surgery—or maybe just grab a coffee and a box of chocolates for the nurse during tests so you don't end up waiting in line until 2009—but the second you pay a homeopath for treatment, suddenly everyone acts like it's some huge scandal.

Honestly? I’d much rather pay a homeopath for their services than hand cash over to those corrupt hacks in our local hospitals—I mean, between my own family's medical bills and those kickbacks, I’ve basically spent enough to buy a decent used Ford.

You can take that bank account number and shove it, because I’m out here doing remote healing with nothing but pure thought... My process involves channeling through noble gases, passing through semi-precious and precious gemstones, all while getting energized by microwave radiation... If you're finally ready to cough up the cash, the least I could get is a little something for my trouble...😉

Jesse Edwards2 said:So, when I need surgery, it’s just considered "normal" to slip a little something into a doctor's envelope. Or if I'm going in for tests, I've got to bring a coffee and a box of chocolates for the nurse just so I don't end up waiting in line until 2009. But the second I have to pay a homeopath, suddenly it's a huge scandal.

Honestly, I’d much rather pay a homeopath for a treatment than hand money over to the corrupt bastards in our hospital systems. Between all the medical bills in my family, I’ve basically handed them enough cash to buy a decent used car.

Look, I'm not trying to justify doctors asking for bribes...
But think about it: why is it that with traditional MDs, you face endless waiting lists, have to pay off people under the table, and deal with constant arrogance, yet with alternative practitioners, there’s no crowd and they’re actually happy to see you walk through the door?
Is it because the first group is just inherently evil while the second group is good?
Or is it simply a matter of supply and demand?
And if it really is about demand, why is that? Just think about it for a second!

I’d honestly rather pay a homeopath than bribe some doctor just to get seen. As for demand—I have to wait and book appointments weeks in advance with my homeopath, and they’re always fully booked. As long as the treatment works for me and everyone else I know, I really don't care what people say about how their medicines are made 🙂. Besides, a full consultation costs around $150-$$67, and that includes the remedies. If I tried handing that kind of cash to a regular doctor, I doubt they’d even let me through the door... though with much larger amounts, they might make an exception, but that's a different story entirely. At the end of the day, people have voted with their wallets, which is why these practitioners are still around. If it works for you, go for it. To me, homeopathy works. 👋

Jessica White24 said:I would honestly rather hand my money over to a homeopath than throw it into a black hole at some big-city hospital or clinic. And when you talk about demand—look, even with the practitioners I see, I have to wait weeks just to get an appointment, and there’s always a line out the door... as long as the remedies actually work for me and everyone else, I really don't care what people say about how they make their medicine or where it comes from 🙂. Besides, a full consultation costs me maybe $150-$67 including the meds, whereas if I tried paying those kinds of amounts to a mainstream doctor, I doubt they'd even let me through the front door... they usually deal with much bigger numbers, but that's for another time altogether, and frankly, people have voted with their wallets for years, which is why these folks are still around. If someone wants to go that route, more power to them... homeopathy works for me. 👋

And just wait until you try my version of things, involving crystals, gases, and everything being energized... 😉 😁 You'll never set foot in a homeopath's office again, and the best part is you don't even need an appointment. As soon as a few hundred bucks drops into the right hands, the healing begins...

Jessica White24 said:I’d honestly rather pay for a homeopathic treatment any day than deal with having to grease someone's palm at a doctor's office. And regarding demand? I have to wait weeks just to get an appointment with my homeopath, and there’s always a line... as long as they actually help me and everyone else, I really don't care what people say about where their remedies come from 🙂. Plus, a visit over there is maybe $150-$67 including the medicine itself. If I tried dropping that kind of cash on a regular MD, I doubt they'd even let me through the door... they usually deal in much larger amounts... but that's a whole other story. At the end of the day, people voted with their wallets, which is why these practitioners are still around. If it works for you, go for it... homeopathy works for me. 👋

Well, once you walk away from a homeopath and realize they were straight-up lying to your face, things feel a little different. I actually went out and paid a decent chunk of change to have a hair sample analyzed—you know, to check mineral levels, vitamins, and all those vital nutrients in your system. It was supposed to be done by some high-end lab in Switzerland, and I waited two or three months for it. I was so excited when the results finally arrived... I thought I could finally make sense of everything. When she handed me the results, she included this sheet of paper that was supposedly a guarantee that the analysis came from that specific lab. The results were laser-printed, sure, but the "certificate"? It looked like it had been typed on a vintage typewriter, crumpled up, and photocopied ten times over with a grainy stamp and signature. The worst part was, when I tried to take everything with me, she snatched the "certificate" back. It wasn't until I was already out the door that I put the pieces together and realized what happened. I agree that homeopathy can be a massive placebo effect, but this level of blatant deception? That's just wrong... it's predatory.

Well, if that's what people want, more power to them...
But I honestly struggle to wrap my head around how any "medicine" can actually work if you have to swallow a pill the size of Jupiter just to ensure you've ingested a single molecule of the active ingredient...

nimblesurfer20 said:honestly, I just can't wrap my head around how any "medicine" is supposed to work if you have to swallow a pill the size of Jupiter just to make sure you've actually ingested a single molecule of the active ingredient...

Look, there's one thing to consider—even "real" medicine doesn't always work the way we expect it to. About 50% of the benefit from many standard drugs comes straight from the placebo effect... it's well-documented stuff. With antidepressants, for instance, that percentage is even higher—some SSRIs are barely more effective than a sugar pill. That's why I personally think it makes more sense to look into natural alternatives first. Not necessarily homeopathy, but things like chiropractic care, yoga, and so on...

dustycanyon6 said:That’s why I think it makes more sense to look into natural alternatives first.

By definition, an "alternative" is something you turn to second, not first.😉

dustycanyon6 said:Once you realize those homeopathy types were lying straight to your face, it hits home... It matters. I actually shelled out a decent chunk of change to get a hair follicle analysis done—wanted to see the actual levels of minerals, vitamins, and all that essential stuff in my system.

Sorry, but this has absolutely nothing to do with homeopathy. 😁

Daniel Chavez14 said:So, I was at that big pharmacy in downtown Chicago—the one right by Pike Place Market—and I saw an entire section dedicated just to homeopathy. 😲
Can anyone weigh in on this?
Does this mean homeopathy has actually gained some level of legitimacy from mainstream doctors?
Or is it just a blatant cash grab?

Haha... give me a break. What were you even looking at? Honestly, it feels like some people are still stuck in the Middle Ages...😁
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Like I said before, in places like the West where "mainstream" medicine is more established than it is here in America, homeopathy is recognized by conventional doctors. And sure, there’s profit involved, but doctors out there don't have to be nearly as greedy because they get paid significantly better for their work, and there isn't any bribery for surgeries in social democracies like Sweden, Norway, Austria, or Switzerland...
Since they practice standard medicine, they aren't making anything off homeopathy—even if it looks like a scam to certain greedy, underpaid folks around here. These things are bought at pharmacies; doctors don't see a dime from them. Just like they don't make extra from the antibiotics they prescribe. Like I said, they make enough to live comfortably.
But those are dimensions unknown to driftinggull13 and Daniel Chavez14... who will probably just stay on this forum complaining about money and unfulfilled wishes...

shadowgardener12 said:Sorry, this whole thing doesn't have anything to do with homeopathy. 😁

What do you mean it's not related to homeopathy? I'm lost... what are you getting at?

The New York Times said:Just another sucker falling for a placebo guide. 😢 😁 😉

As long as it actually works, I guess. It matters, right?

shadowgardener12 said:haha... looks like some guy named Josh is still living in the Dark Ages 😁
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So, are you actually bragging about that or just complaining again?
I mean, thank God those homeopathic remedies are free or whatever. Though personally, I think plain water is probably a bit cheaper than the actual remedy, assuming you take the time to pour it over some crystals and charge them up under the sun first... which isn't exactly easy work. Not that I'd know anything about it, except I do, because while I'm busy energizing my own thoughts and trying to channel them through noble gases, it's quite the workout... It’s not like I’m doing this for the cash, it's more about helping people, really. A few hundred bucks is plenty for someone acting as a doctor... provided they can cover the electric bill and the water, obviously... 😁 👋

Doctors at that level aren't making bank. You clearly don't get how a functioning social safety net actually works. But hey, I get it... you’ve never stepped foot outside your own little bubble, so you assume everyone operates exactly like you do at your job.
Besides, doctors are already paid plenty to be greedy for cash—unlike you two, who clearly haven't hit it big yet. It's funny watching you try to pin profit motives on people for things you can't even wrap your limited minds around. 👍
Not everyone here is chasing a paycheck... maybe they would if they had to, but they have enough. Enough to live a decent life, driftinggull13, without having to watch the news just to feel something.
And homeopathic remedies aren't free... but it's not a crime, driftinggull13... people work hard and they have money. 😉. If someone's happy with homeopathy, let them be. You're just being bitter. 👋

shadowgardener12 said:I already mentioned that in the West, where "mainstream" medicine is a bit more advanced than here in America, homeopathy is actually recognized by traditional physicians...

In this backward part of America, just like in the "perfect" West, mainstream medicine once adopted one homeopathic method: hyposensitization for allergic diseases, particularly allergic asthma. It was a relatively convenient method back when more effective drugs didn't exist—specifically for an allergy to a single allergen that couldn't be avoided, and in cases where the patient had plenty of free time to afford frequent, long-term treatments. This comes with the caveat that this method makes absolutely no sense if there is an allergy to multiple allergens (which is most common), and that the reactions can be extremely unpleasant, even dangerous.

Today, much more effective medications for asthma exist, along with far simpler treatment methods, making homeopathic hyposensitization obsolete in most cases.
However, it is still being performed here and abroad, but guess where? Mostly in private practices!!! And that is because it is incredibly profitable to have a patient who comes to you regularly for injections for years on end... whereas they could easily resolve their issue with modern medicine, but then their asthma would be perfectly regulated, leaving them no reason to visit your clinic every single week.😉

...and yes, there is a desire for profit, but doctors in the West don't have to be quite so greedy because they earn significantly more for their work than they do here in America, and there is no such thing as bribery for surgery (in social capitalist countries like Sweden, Norway, Austria, or Switzerland...).
And since they practice mainstream medicine, they don't earn a dime from homeopathy, as it apparently seems to some greedy, underpaid people here. These drugs are bought at pharmacies, and doctors and physicians earn absolutely nothing from them. Just like they don't earn anything from the antibiotics they prescribe. But as I said, they earn enough for a comfortable life.

In Western nations, doctors aren't bribed by patients, but they certainly are by pharmaceutical companies... to such an extent that even professional and scientific "authorities" are capable of peddling unverified data as recommended treatment methods.

shadowgardener12 said:Look, those doctors aren't exactly raking it in over at that clinic... you clearly don't get how a functioning social safety net actually operates. But hey, I get it, you’ve probably never stepped foot outside your own little bubble, so I guess it's hard to wrap your head around how things work differently than they do at your job...
I mean, honestly, doctors are supposed to be compensated enough for their expertise that they don't have to act like greedy vultures... but here you two are, acting like you haven't had quite enough out of life already, just looking for someone else to blame so you can squeeze a few extra bucks out of something neither of you has the mental capacity to actually understand or even grasp... it's just pathetic, really... 👍
Not everyone around here is just chasing a paycheck... maybe some are, but honestly, most people have enough to get by. As for actually making a decent living? Well, you're on your own there, driftinggull13... you'll have to figure out how to make that happen by watching the news or whatever else is on TV...
Look, homeopathic remedies aren't exactly handed out for free... but honestly, driftinggull13, I don't see what the big deal is... people put in the work and they make a decent living, you know... 😉Look, if you’re actually satisfied with homeopathy, then honestly, good for you... you’ve found your bliss or whatever. But as for me? I'm just going to stay skeptical while everyone else chases fairy tales... 👋

I mean, honestly, I just don't get it... we've never really stepped outside our own little social circles, have we? It’s like we’re all just stuck in these tiny bubbles, and because of that, I can't make heads or tails of anything anymore... especially not when it comes to this whole boat situation...

Honestly, our collective mental hardware just isn't wired to process these kinds of logical gymnastics... It’s wild how in the States, people will drop 200 million bucks on the homeopathy industry just because they can, purely out of this weird sense of human compassion from folks who have enough cash to make homeopathic remedies feel like pocket change. Yeah, sure, nobody's actually making a massive profit on them. I mean, at the end of the day, you're basically paying for water, which costs way more than the crystals they claim are inside...
onwards and upwards...👍 Look, just take the evidence that homeopathy hasn't been able to substantiate for the last two hundred years and run with it... maybe try keeping an open mind for the next two centuries too, if you're actually looking for proof that goes beyond a simple placebo effect... unlike us pathetic little amateurs living in tiny, envious social circles who clearly don't have the slightest clue how to navigate this massive, complicated vessel we're all sailing in...

Please, just take a look at this other brilliant masterpiece of a sentence I've put together...

You clearly just don't get how a functional social safety net actually works... but honestly, I get it, you've never really stepped foot outside your own little bubble, so I guess it’s easy to assume everything works exactly like your specific job...

Honestly, even The Onion would be too embarrassed to publish something this "logical" in their annual satire roundup...

I mean, there's absolutely zero doubt about it... homeopathy actually works, no question about it...

granitebadger25 said:In a lagging place like America, just like in the perfect West, conventional medicine once adopted a homeopathic method—hyposensitization for allergic diseases, specifically allergic asthma... It was a convenient method back when there weren't more effective drugs available, especially for an allergy to a single allergen you can't avoid, and for patients with enough free time to afford frequent, long-term treatments... with the caveat that this method makes zero sense if there's an allergy to multiple allergens (which is most cases), and that reactions can be very unpleasant, even dangerous.

Nowadays, much more effective asthma medications and simpler treatment methods exist, so homeopathic hyposensitization is obsolete in most cases.
Yet, it’s still being done here, and abroad too, but guess where? Mostly in private practices!!! ... And that's because it's highly profitable to have a patient coming to you for injections year after year... when they could easily solve their problem with modern medicine, but then their asthma would be perfectly regulated, and there'd be no need to visit your clinic every week. 😉

In Western countries, doctors aren't bribed by patients, but they certainly are by pharmaceutical companies... to the point where even professional and scientific "authorities" are capable of peddling unverified data as recommended treatment protocols.

If that's all homeopathy in mainstream American medicine, then it's a tragedy.
There goes that argument again: it's profitable to have a patient coming for injections! And you cite one single instance of homeopathic therapy?? One single use case!?? That kind of narrow-minded approach and criticism is exactly what I'm talking about. I think the number of patients receiving non-homeopathic injections is at least a thousand times larger than those coming for homeopathic hyposensitization.

On the flip side, abroad you see 1,000 (just an illustrative figure) cases where homeopathy is used, and it's most effective for chronic conditions. And in the vast majority of cases, specifically my own, the doctor knows nothing about it... pharmacies exist, and thank God they do, because you need an alternative.
And that is "slightly" more than just the one single method you're now claiming is used in America... using it as a counterargument against yourself.

I'm sure there are doctors in America who specialize in homeopathy too.

And while we're on the subject of "perfectly regulating asthma," I know methods that don't just regulate it, but actually cure it. Of course, we're talking about alternative methods again, but documented ones. But... well, it's just how things are over here...

shadowgardener12 said:So you're citing a single instance of homeopathic therapy?? One solitary use case!?? This is exactly what I mean when I talk about such a narrow-minded approach to criticism.

I presented one specific method, but I provided a full explanation and argued its flaws compared to conventional medicine.

In contrast, you’re just showering homeopathy with praise in general without providing any actual arguments; you don't list methods, potential advantages, or even drawbacks.

Do you see now whose approach to this discussion is actually narrow-minded?

No... please, give me a break...

You're practically begging for it, which means you're clearly lacking 😁
It doesn't matter how far away it is, as long as you carry it with you (in your heart and your head). ☕

And maybe this homeopathy actually does have some side effects after all. 🤔

granitebadger25 said:I pointed out one specific method, then went ahead and explained why its flaws make it inferior to conventional medicine.

On the flip side, you’re just over here praising homeopathy in general without any actual substance. No methods mentioned, no advantages listed, no drawbacks cited... nothing.

Now do you see whose approach to this debate is actually narrow-minded?

You’re calling for it, which means you’re clearly lacking 😁
It doesn't matter how far away it is, as long as you carry it with you—in your heart and your head... ☕

And maybe this homeopathy actually does have some side effects... 🤔

No, that was sarcasm directed at your statement, which could basically be boiled down to those three words. 😉

I see you can write... or is someone else typing for you? Between the quotes and the obvious lack of comprehension, it's clear. You're talking about a single method and claiming it's bad just because it mirrors conventional medical practices. 👍 😁

Secondly—for the third time now—that one method isn't even representative of homeopathic remedies. There are a hundred different ways things are handled where injections aren't used at all. Did you even bother to learn how homeopathy actually works? If not, what exactly are you lecturing us about? Like I said... certainly not about homeopathy. Just your own biases.
And honestly, listening to it is a total waste of my time.

In homeopathy, there are drops and various other preparations that are almost entirely taken orally.