Something's up... anyone else?

Chris Fox4 said:If she’s got schizophrenia—and let's face it, she does—then this stuff started playing out a long time ago. It’s just hitting the surface now. People like this need someone with actual backbone and authority to keep things steady, not some soft-headed psychiatrist who’s just going to numb her out with pills or talk down to her like she’s five years old. Angela Kelly, listen to me... don't cave. Don't validate her delusions just to keep the peace. You have to be blunt and tell her she's sick.

The issue is she's becoming incredibly clingy with me, and honestly, I've got way too much on my plate to be her full-time caretaker.

And yeah... those conversations. I've tried telling her she's imagining things and needs to fight through it, but she just snaps. She gets so aggressive that neither I nor the doctors can even get through to her.
I even tried suggesting she see a specialist, someone who might actually understand the "forces" she thinks are controlling her.
I'm just praying she finally gets some therapy that actually works.

Yeah, let’s be real—psychiatrists are basically just total morons who do nothing but cause damage

People struggling actually need a "firm hand" instead of being forced to take all those pills. It’s all just a massive setup by paid hacks and traitors to give psychopharmacology types an easier way to control the masses

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Kyle Nelson2 said:It's like everything builds up to this breaking point, I think that's what they call it, where the brain just hits a limit and things start breaking down... you might even wake up the next day struggling with basic stuff like writing or knowing where you are.

It’s honestly pretty sad how people still talk about mental health as if it’s just being "crazy"...
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your friend sounds like she might be dealing with paranoid schizophrenia

maybe see if there's any way you can help her out...

Angela Kelly said:The issue is she’s getting really attached to me, but I honestly just have way too much on my plate right now to be able to step in and help her as much as she needs...

And yeah... about those things she says... I've started telling her she's just imagining things and needs to fight through it, which came out a bit more aggressive than I intended, I guess... neither I nor the doctors really know what to make of it all...
I tried suggesting she see a psychiatrist, thinking they might actually understand those "forces" she feels are controlling her...
I'm really just hoping she can find some kind of therapy that actually works...

Then maybe you should do her a favor and just give her some space, please...

Approaching it with that mindset isn't going to help her one bit...

I am so sick of people stuck on this whole "tough love" nonsense...

Honestly, you guys are being so backwards about this...

Like, sure, a psychiatrist won't fix anything, but YOU'll surely solve it by giving her a few slaps to "snap her out of it"...

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Angela Kelly said:The issue is she’s getting way too attached to me, and honestly, I just have way too much on my plate to be her full-time support system.

And yeah... those delusions... I started telling her straight up that she was making things up and needs to fight through it... but she just snaps back at me so aggressively that I don't even know what to do anymore. Neither I nor the doctors seem to have a clue.
I tried suggesting she see a psychiatrist—someone who might actually understand these "forces" she thinks are controlling her.
I really, truly hope she gets some kind of therapy that actually works.

Look, I’ve dealt with schizophrenia before, and let me tell you, it’s a nightmare. It doesn't just wreck the patient; it drags everyone close to them down into the dirt, too. Maybe this sounds harsh, maybe even a little mean, but if you can see she isn't listening to you? You might need to step back. Just trust me on this—if you stay too close, she’ll pull you right down with her. Yeah, meds help for a bit, sure, but without constant supervision, everything just spirals back to square one. The real kicker is that people with this condition don't trust anyone. You already figured that out, didn't you? But does it even matter? I don't think there's a "cure" for this. It all boils down to authority. Period. The patient has to find someone to lean on—either someone they love or someone they respect more than their own hallucinations. And that person has to be the one to steer the ship. It’s a brutal job because, at the end of the day, they never truly abandon their delusions, but they can at least live a semi-normal life. I don't know how far gone she is, but from what I can tell, things look pretty grim. If nothing changes soon, it's just going to get worse and worse.

rustymoose54 said:Yeah, psychiatrists are just total idiots who end up doing more harm than good...

People struggling really need a steady hand and definitely shouldn't be forced onto medication. It’s all just a setup by paid puppets and traitors to make it easier for Big Pharma to control everyone...

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Oh, rustymoose—I mean, who knows more about what's actually going on than someone like Nikola Tesla...

But honestly, people act like it's all made up, even though the woman isn't actually sick...

I know there are plenty of ignorant folks out there who think mental illness is just something people invent...

But I have to admit, those kinds of mindless outbursts still manage to get under my skin every once in a while...

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Chris Fox4 said:I've dealt with schizophrenia before, and honestly, it’s such a devastating illness... it doesn't just tear down the person suffering, but it drags everyone close to them down too. This might sound harsh, but if you notice they aren't listening to you anymore, it might be best to step back before you get pulled under with them... meds can help for a little while, but without constant supervision, everything just spirals back. The real issue is that people with this condition don't trust anyone—which I'm sure you've already realized—but even that doesn't matter much since I don't believe there's an actual cure... it all comes down to authority. Basically, the patient needs to find some kind of anchor, whether it's someone they love deeply or someone they respect more than their own delusions... and that person then has to guide them. It's a heavy burden because they rarely let go of those beliefs, though they can manage to live somewhat normally... I'm not sure how far along her illness has progressed, but from what I can see, things look pretty grim, and if nothing changes, it’s only going to get worse

The woman really needs to be under a doctor's care and staying on her medication...

talking won't help at all—she'll just think you're making things up or feeding her nonsense

rustymoose54 said:Yeah, psychiatrists are basically just morons out to do nothing but cause harm to people.

People who are actually struggling need a "firm hand," not some chemical cocktail they're forced to swallow. It's all just a setup by hired thugs and traitors to make it easier for big pharma to control the entire world.

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Look, maybe your shrink is some kind of saint sent from above, but my experience? Totally different story. So, just piss off.

electricdriver78 said:A woman needs to be under a doctor's supervision and stay on her medication.

She doesn't need some fairy tale—that's just the nonsense you're feeding her because you want to believe it.

Look, honestly? This isn't even my circus and I'm not jumping in to play clown. I'm not going to waste my breath arguing over who's right or wrong here... if they want to do whatever they want, fine. Go ahead. I just said what I said based on what I've seen happen before.

megalit said:Look, maybe your shrink is some kind of saint sent from above, but my experience? Yeah, totally different story... so just piss off.

I’ve never dealt with any kind of mental illness myself—so, yeah, no personal psychiatrist over here.

But honestly, looking at people close to me... I've become pretty convinced that professional help is the only way to actually get things sorted out.

Chris Fox4 said:To be totally honest, this isn't really my fight, so I'm not planning on arguing about who's right or wrong... people can do whatever they want... I was just sharing my own thoughts and what I've been through...

I'm completely with you on that...

I'm just calling out how ridiculous the OP is being...

Chris Fox4 said:Maybe you hit the jackpot with your psychiatrist, but my experience has been a whole different story... so just back off

Well, if that's the case, you should probably find a new one then...

because my psychologist honestly saved my life...

they're definitely more qualified to help than some random advice from Nikola Tesla...

electricdriver78 said:then you seriously need to go see a psychiatrist

Look, my therapist literally saved my life.

I mean, professionals actually know what they're doing, unlike some random old lady's unsolicited advice from someone like Nikola Tesla.

Look, this isn't even about me, it's about someone close to me... and I know damn well what psychologists and psychiatrists can handle and what they can't. Advanced schizophrenia is a heavy, serious disease. It doesn't just vanish overnight. Honestly? I'm terrified that a lot of these cases are just impossible to fix.

Chris Fox4 said:Look, this isn't really about me, it’s more about someone close to my heart... and I know firsthand what psychologists and psychiatrists can actually manage and where their limits are... advanced schizophrenia is such a heavy burden that doesn't just vanish overnight... honestly, I worry that a lot of these cases are just impossible to fully overcome

Well, nobody is claiming they're cured—but if you had checked out that thread about her Barbie doll

it would be pretty obvious that someone living with these struggles can still have a decent quality of life as long as they have medical supervision and the support of friends and family

electricdriver78 said:Look, nobody's out here claiming they’re a magic cure or anything—let's be real. But if you actually took the time to dig through that Magician thread about her Barbie... well, then you'd see what I mean.

Look, wouldn't it be obvious? It should be crystal clear that the quality of life for people dealing with these kinds of illnesses can actually stay at a decent level. You just need the right medical supervision and a solid support system—you know, friends and family actually stepping up to help. Is that really such a hard concept to grasp?

Have you ever actually stepped foot inside a psych ward? Ever seen what "quality of life" really looks like in those places? Have you ever looked a schizophrenic patient in the eye while they're completely lobotomized by heavy medication? They aren't even living; they’re just walking corpses. But hey, maybe you’re right. Maybe I shouldn't be generalizing everything. I don't even have the energy to get into a whole thing about it anymore.

Chris Fox4 said:Have you ever actually stepped foot in a psychiatric ward and seen what "quality of life" really looks like there? Have you ever looked at someone dealing with schizophrenia, completely drugged out and unresponsive? They’re basically walking ghosts... though maybe you have a point, I don't want to generalize too much, and I honestly don't have the energy to get into a whole debate about it...

But have you ever truly seen someone struggling with their mental health who just has absolutely no one to help them?

What does a life like that even look like...

I didn't deal with schizophrenia, but my struggles were still heavy enough that I felt like I was being buried alive in a glass coffin...

Life just keeps passing me by while I sit there unable to participate, screaming inside from all the frustration and pain, but nobody can hear me...

Please, don't try to tell me what it's like for people living with mental illness unless you've actually had to endure it yourself...

electricdriver78 said:Have you ever actually looked at someone struggling with severe mental illness who isn't getting any help?

What does a life even look like like then?

I didn't have anything nearly as heavy as schizophrenia, but I felt like I was being buried alive in a glass coffin.

Life just passes me by while I’m sitting there, unable to actually live it, screaming inside my own head from pure misery, but nobody hears a damn thing.

So don't just lecture me on what people with mental health issues go through unless you've actually lived it yourself.

Look, I don't even know what you want me to say to you... I mean, sure, maybe it worked for you, but it clearly didn't for someone else... and honestly, you'll never truly understand the amount of crap I've had to deal with myself.

Angela Kelly said:I’m looking for some solid advice here.

An old coworker of mine started hearing voices. He was under massive pressure and either forgot—or just decided not to take—his medication. We had to call his psychiatrist and get an Uber to take him over there. There isn't much else you can do, but I'd suggest nudging her toward professional help immediately. From what I saw with that colleague, things only spiral downward until rational thought becomes impossible.

Angela Kelly said:The issue is she's becoming far too dependent on me, and I simply don't have the bandwidth to carry her weight.

You lack any actual competence in this field.

Angela Kelly said:Exactly. Those stories... I started telling her she was imagining things and needed to face it. She just lashed out with this intense aggression that left me completely blindsided. Neither I nor the doctors have any idea what happened.
I suggested she see a psychiatrist. I told her they’d actually understand those "forces" she claims are controlling her.
I sincerely hope they receive some kind of useful therapy.

Look, if action isn't taken immediately, we could be looking at a tragedy where she takes her own life out of pure desperation because nobody listens and everyone just attacks. Suicide rates among the mentally ill are significantly higher. It’s less likely, but still possible, that she might lash out at someone else.

Kyle Nelson2 said:Look, I never made any absolute claims about your friend.

If my head were actually spinning, I’d start with therapy, move to meditation, and only then consider a psychiatrist and medication.

By then, she would have completely lost her grip and become a danger to herself and everyone else. You don't treat acute psychosis, depression, or schizophrenia by trying to convince someone that what they're seeing and hearing isn't real. Warm compresses and chamomile tea aren't going to cut it here; they fail every single time. Psychotropic drugs, regardless of the side effects, are the only option. Betty Rivera14 once started a thread—I think it was titled "Help Me"—where she detailed the gradual recovery process of a mental health patient under psychiatric care.