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IT'S race Week !!! United States Grand Prix Indianapolis Motor Speedway 03.20.2022

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stormytiger4 stormytiger4 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2020
#481 ·
stormybadger8 said:My money is on the engine, or at least not the ICE...
I'd bet it's an electrical issue—either the generator/motor unit or the battery itself.

Look, Pierre Gasly's car caught fire, but it was obvious the battery or the wiring went, not the engine or fuel...
If it were Max Verstappen's engine, we would've seen smoke. Same goes for Perez...

This whole thing reeks of electrical problems. I have a feeling Red Bull Racing was trying to get cute again, maybe cutting corners on the electrical components just to shave off some weight...

It's totally possible some auxiliary electronics messed things up for both Gasly and Max. I can't say for sure about Checo, though; it looked more like his engine or gearbox just seized up.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
466 messages
joined Aug 2014
#482 ·
stormybadger8 said:My money is on the engine, or at least not the ICE...
I'd bet it's an electrical issue—either the generator/motor unit or the battery itself.

Look, Pierre Gasly's car caught fire, but it was obvious the battery or the wiring went, not the engine or fuel...
If it were Max Verstappen's engine, we would've seen smoke. Same goes for Perez...

This whole thing reeks of electrical problems. I have a feeling Red Bull Racing was trying to get cute again, maybe cutting corners on the electrical components just to shave off some weight...

What kind of drastic weight reduction are you talking about? They are roughly 5kg heavier than the Alfa, despite clearly having superior engineers, constructors, designers, and everything else.

I don't know who designed the new Ferrari, but hats off to them.

I expect Mercedes to be right up there in terms of parity within four or five races. This is going to be a long and interesting season.
Sean Peterson76 Sean Peterson76 Member
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joined Feb 2023
#483 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Honestly, that girl looked way better in the mini skirt yesterday

I guess Naomi did a little something with her nose before this season kicks off:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Schiff
https://www.instagram.com/naomischiff/
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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joined Apr 2013
#484 ·
Can you not remember that back in the day, Newey used to mess around with the size of the KERS motor?
I'm talking about something like that...
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
443 messages
joined Apr 2016
#485 ·
Red Bull Racing really blew it and ended up in the red after such an incredible preseason. Is this just a momentary stumble, or are we looking at persistent reliability issues that will continue to haunt them? Only time will tell, I suppose. However, once that first race concluded, the hierarchy regarding raw pace became abundantly clear:
1. Ferrari
2. Red Bull Racing
3. Mercedes-Benz

It is actually quite encouraging for the rest of the season, given that both the second and third-placed teams possess such impressive development capabilities. 😁

The most profound disappointment has to be McLaren. They managed to catch everyone off guard in all the wrong ways. Their deficit is so significant that, if I am being realistic, the best I can hope for from them this year is a fight for points rather than podiums or victories.

On a brighter note, Haas and Kevin Magnussen were a genuinely pleasant surprise. It has become strikingly obvious now just how poor their driver lineup was last season. Magnussen immediately showed little Mick Schumacher exactly how things are done out there on the track.

We were also treated to a beautiful duel between Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc. It was evident even after qualifying that Red Bull Racing opted for lower downforce to prioritize higher top speeds—which explains why Max Verstappen was able to close in on Charles Leclerc on those long straights—but in exchange, Ferrari held the advantage in traction, allowing Charles Leclerc to easily reclaim the lead between turns three and four.

This was my first time tuning into a broadcast featuring the official Formula 1 commentators, Ben Edwards and Jolyon Palmer, and I must say, they were a very pleasant surprise. There was no discernible bias, just highly specific and technical information regarding the action on the circuit. In my estimation, they are leagues better than the crew over at Sky.

However, what was utterly dreadful was the actual broadcast production itself. Between the erroneous graphics, the poor selection of camera angles around the track, and generally subpar directing, it was quite a mess. 👎
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 VeteranOP
1K messages
joined Jun 2017
#486 ·
stormytiger4 said:It's totally possible some auxiliary electronics messed things up for both Gasly and Max. I can't say for sure about Checo, though; it looked more like his engine or gearbox just seized up.

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Joseph Flores15 Joseph Flores15 Active Member
53 messages
joined Oct 2014
#487 ·
A solid start. I'm not getting ahead of myself just yet, but we definitely kicked things off on the right foot.
Sam Clark75 Sam Clark75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2021
#488 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Red Bull Racing really blew it and ended up in the red after such an incredible preseason. Is this just a momentary stumble, or are we looking at persistent reliability issues that will continue to haunt them? Only time will tell, I suppose. However, once that first race concluded, the hierarchy regarding raw pace became abundantly clear:
1. Ferrari
2. Red Bull Racing
3. Mercedes-Benz

It is actually quite encouraging for the rest of the season, given that both the second and third-placed teams possess such impressive development capabilities. 😁

The most profound disappointment has to be McLaren. They managed to catch everyone off guard in all the wrong ways. Their deficit is so significant that, if I am being realistic, the best I can hope for from them this year is a fight for points rather than podiums or victories.

On a brighter note, Haas and Kevin Magnussen were a genuinely pleasant surprise. It has become strikingly obvious now just how poor their driver lineup was last season. Magnussen immediately showed little Mick Schumacher exactly how things are done out there on the track.

We were also treated to a beautiful duel between Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc. It was evident even after qualifying that Red Bull Racing opted for lower downforce to prioritize higher top speeds—which explains why Max Verstappen was able to close in on Charles Leclerc on those long straights—but in exchange, Ferrari held the advantage in traction, allowing Charles Leclerc to easily reclaim the lead between turns three and four.

This was my first time tuning into a broadcast featuring the official Formula 1 commentators, Ben Edwards and Jolyon Palmer, and I must say, they were a very pleasant surprise. There was no discernible bias, just highly specific and technical information regarding the action on the circuit. In my estimation, they are leagues better than the crew over at Sky.

However, what was utterly dreadful was the actual broadcast production itself. Between the erroneous graphics, the poor selection of camera angles around the track, and generally subpar directing, it was quite a mess. 👎

Edwards and Palmer are lightyears ahead of the Croft / Brundle fan club when it comes to calling the race—I don't have to stress my nerves listening to them. Plus, you don't get those weird interruptions or loud noises when Sky jumps to commercials, so this feels like a massive level up. Though, I am curious how C&B try to justify Russell being practically invisible lately.

The graphics are a complete joke, though. If you miss the FL the second it happens, you'll have no clue it even occurred—it's like seeing Magnussen racing against himself or something. The list goes on.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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joined Jan 2009
#489 ·
stormybadger8 said:And it definitely doesn't kill the entire electrical system and fry the steering wheel display, too.🙂

So they’re probably just lying at this point
https://twitter.com/redbullracing/st...QWKLsXPIJtMIrw
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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joined Oct 2020
#490 ·
Christian Horner mentioned they’re seeing the "same issue on both cars," but honestly, they probably won't know what's actually going on until they strip them down completely. He's claiming the power unit isn't the culprit, though.
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
221 messages
joined Apr 2011
#491 ·
Alexander Albon put in a really solid performance today. 👍
Dana Murphy4 Dana Murphy4 Active Member
50 messages
joined May 2011
#492 ·
I guess maybe Carlos Sainz seems to be lacking a bit of that old aggression since he joined Ferrari, because it feels like he isn't taking as many risks and is just settling for points, whereas Charles Leclerc always seems to be pushing for the win even when the car isn't really capable of it. Though, I suppose he actually acted unusually mature today and kept his cool enough to easily beat Max Verstappen.
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
821 messages
joined Oct 2020
#493 ·
It looks like Max Verstappen's car was struggling with fuel pressure or something similar, but he mentioned he wasn't happy with the balance regardless. He felt the car actually performed much better during Friday's practice sessions.
stormycobra27 stormycobra27 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jul 2022
#494 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:It really has to come down to battery deployment. In my opinion, the DRS just wasn't providing enough of an advantage today.

When you factor in the gap and the actual overtaking—it's only about 1.5 seconds on the straights... top speed combined with DRS and the battery—it all adds up to quite a bit.
Lawrence Garcia5 Lawrence Garcia5 Active Member
54 messages
joined Jan 2015
#495 ·
Honestly, I love this sport to death, but man, reading the comments on these forums is a total nightmare.
It couldn't have ended any better—unless you count Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen smashing into each other, wrecking both cars, and then running to Christian Horner to cry about it.

There's zero doubt that Mercedes-Benz is going to fix their aero issues and be right back in the fight for the top spots.
For Red Bull Racing, though, the real headache is actually making the car reliable. That’s the much bigger task.
cosmicmoose2 cosmicmoose2 Active Member
66 messages
joined May 2016
#496 ·
What a race!
Ferrari is absolutely killing it!
And man, Lewis Hamilton is seriously blessed... it's actually insane how much luck that guy has.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#497 ·
wiredseal7 said:So they’re probably just lying at this point
https://twitter.com/redbullracing/st...QWKLsXPIJtMIrw

They only drop statements so it doesn't look like they said nothing at all, or like they have zero clue what happened...

I don't see how a busted fuel pump or running out of gas would cause these issues:
- Total blackout if the steering wheel loses power.
- Rear wheels locking up and sending the car spinning off track.
- Steering or power steering failures...
Amy Castillo4 Amy Castillo4 Active Member
72 messages
joined Dec 2011
#498 ·
Ferrari 🙏 🙏 🙏
Finally!

Looks like we have an incredible season ahead of us.
wearywolf49 wearywolf49 Member
22 messages
joined Nov 2019
#499 ·
Is it even possible to race against Max Verstappen or actually overtake him? I mean, sure, it’s only the first race, but honestly, if Charles Leclerc were in that seat, we’d probably be looking at a massive collision or some kind of penalty incident right about now.🤔
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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joined Mar 2008
#500 ·
wearywolf49 said:Is it even possible to race against Max Verstappen or actually overtake him? I mean, sure, it’s only the first race, but honestly, if Charles Leclerc were in that seat, we’d probably be looking at a massive collision or some kind of penalty incident right about now.🤔

Yeah, that's what happens when Mad leaves things lying around the house or the garage.
I’d say Max didn't go quite as hard against Leclerc today as we've usually come to expect.
First race is in the books. Looks like it might not be as total garbage as everyone thought.

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