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Why are the opening laps on Sunday slower than Saturday qualifying?

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Participants wearyraven41driftingnomad68mistybear87Elizabeth HughesCharles Martin78restlessmaker2redheron12Taylor HayesBetty Murphy
wearyraven41 wearyraven41 Active MemberOP
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joined Sep 2011
#1 ·
I’ve been chewing on something lately...

So, picture this: during qualifying on Saturday, these cars roll out with a specific fuel load and a set configuration, clocking in a lap time of, say, 1:15.00.

Then Sunday rolls around for the race. Logic dictates that those opening laps should actually be faster than the qualifying times. They’re running that same optimized setup from yesterday, and with every single lap, the car gets lighter because they're burning through fuel...

But that's not what happens. Instead, they start out dragging, sometimes two full seconds off the pace, and it takes them ten laps just to even approach those qualifying numbers.

Why is that?

P.S. I'd rather look like an idiot now than fly blind later.
driftingnomad68 driftingnomad68 Member
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joined Sep 2005
#2 ·
Maybe it’s just because they aren't pushing the car to its absolute limit?

Or maybe they're just not driving at 100%?
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#3 ·
I can't say for certain, but I have this nagging feeling that when the cars roll up to the starting line, they're actually allowed to make a few last-minute adjustments to things before the green flag drops.
Elizabeth Hughes Elizabeth Hughes Active Member
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joined Jan 2003
#4 ·
mistybear87 said:I can't say for certain, but I've always had this nagging feeling that when the cars pull up to the starting line, they might get away with making a few last-minute adjustments to things under the hood.

Personally, I’m pretty sure those kinds of tweaks are strictly off-limits once they hit the grid...
Charles Martin78 Charles Martin78 Active Member
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joined Mar 2011
#5 ·
Austin Evans regarding Montezemolo said:I have a sneaking suspicion they aren't actually allowed to...

Well, I shaved first and then had my drink. So there we have it...
restlessmaker2 restlessmaker2 Member
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joined Jan 2004
#6 ·
I'd rather not say what I'm thinking just yet 🙂

But really... why bother?
It's likely just because those practice laps are mostly about getting a feel for the track and giving the car one last shakeout test.

They might as well just pack some charcoal and throw a BBQ on the lawn once someone inevitably flies off the track 😛

Don't rush it, but don't go crawling along either... 😁 🙂
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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joined Aug 2008
#7 ·
Maybe they can run through tire warmers and similar prep before qualifying—and there’s always that dedicated warm-up lap—but once the race actually starts, that luxury disappears. They really have to be careful during those opening laps while the track is still crowded.
Taylor Hayes Taylor Hayes Newcomer
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joined Mar 2003
#8 ·
The tires haven't even hit operating temperature yet, the brakes are ice cold, and there’s a massive bottleneck on the track... it's basically Minardi out there.😁 btw just imagine if Montoya had pushed hard right from the jump—BMW would've been left in the dust by lap 6 or 7.
Betty Murphy Betty Murphy Active Member
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joined Apr 2003
#9 ·
Iceman said:The tires hadn't reached operating temp yet, the brakes were cold, and there was just too much traffic on the track... Montoya was driving way too aggressively during the race.😁 btw, just imagine if Montoya had pushed that BMW hard right from the start; they probably would have blown a tire by lap 6 or 7.

They would've blown it by lap 3!
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#10 ·
The FIA under Sergio Marchionne said:I have a feeling they aren't actually allowed to do that...

But here is what is actually permitted:

1. Adjusting tire pressure and performing rebalancing
2. Fluids with a specific gravity greater than 1.1 can be swapped or "drained"
3. Adding or removing compressed gases
4. Tweaking the front wing aerodynamics (as long as you don't add new parts)
5. Accessing the electronics via the physical connectors on the chassis
6. A few other minor things like spark plugs, brakes, the battery...
Elizabeth Hughes Elizabeth Hughes Active Member
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#11 ·
Austin Evans said:here’s what they’re actually allowing:

1. messing with tire pressure and getting them balanced
2. you can swap out fluids if their specific gravity is over 1.1
3. adding or bleeding off compressed gases
4. adjusting the front wing aerodynamics, provided you aren't slapping on new parts
5. accessing the electronics through the physical chassis connectors
6. some minor stuff like spark plugs, brakes, the battery...

Kids, take notes and try to keep up... 😉
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#12 ·
Montezemolo at the FIA said:Kids, take notes and learn something here... 😉

Honestly, you just have to actually read the rulebook once in a while. :-)))))
(And maybe try to make sense of it too, right? :-)

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