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step 1 to step 10: How to become a music snob

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silverwolf45 silverwolf45 NewcomerOP
8 messages
joined Feb 2003
#1 ·
The 10-step manual for becoming an elite music snob

step 1
: Master the essential snob lexicon:
  • Sellout—basically any band that managed to get popular after starting out in a garage.
  • Poseur—literally anyone who enjoys a sellout. Or, alternatively, anyone who didn't happen to discover a band at the exact same moment you did.
  • Underground — Excellent
  • Commercial — Evil
  • Sounds like…meets….—used when saying "Band X sounds like Band Y meets Band Z," which actually implies Band X bears absolutely zero resemblance to either Band Y or Band Z. For instance: “I love Moby! He kind of sounds like Pantera meets Alanis Morissette.”
  • Lo-fi, indie, nu-metal, poppy, retro, anarchist, authentic, awesome, infectious, experimental—these are essentially empty buzzwords that you can slap onto nearly anything. Use them constantly.


step 2: Immerse yourself in these artists: The Pixies, The Velvet Underground, Sonic Youth, Beck meets Fugazi. Loving these isn't optional; if you don't, you simply aren't cool.

step 3: Study these names: Goo Goo Dolls, Blink-182, Limp Bizkit, The Strokes, Linkin Park. You are required to loathe them. Failure to do so results in immediate loss of cool status.

step 4: Internalize the discographies of Nirvana, Tool, Radiohead, Metallica, The Beatles, The Who, R.E.M., Pearl Jam, Moby, and The Beastie Boys. You may hold personal opinions on them, provided those opinions are delivered with the authority of a scholar and backed by undeniable evidence. For example: “Nirvana is fine, but they aren't Pixies good. Way too poppy. Just listen to Incesticide and you'll realize their songwriting is vastly inferior, regardless of what people say.” You should be able to recite every track, every tour date, and every lineup change from memory. Also, you must prefer their debut albums over their later work. Anything else is uncool.

step 5: Unearth at least five obscure bands that nobody else has ever heard of. Commit them to memory, then casually brag to fellow connoisseurs about how legendary they are and how you caught their set back when they were playing to ten people. Personally, I was a System of a Down fan well before they dropped their self-titled debut. Now, I can simultaneously look down on all those SOAD poseurs who only showed up after “Chop Suey!” and pretend to despise the band themselves for selling out to the man.

step 6: Accept the reality that every other wannabe snob is hunting for the same obscure gems you are. Consequently, you need to know every band that has ever existed. That way, when someone claims, “I saw Queens of the Stone Age—you've probably never heard of them—and they were incredible! Their self-titled record is a masterpiece!”, you can hit them with: “You only know the self-titled? I've been a QOTSA fan since their very first EP! Poseur.”

step 7: Abbreviate band names for no apparent reason to signal your deep expertise. If you refer to And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead as AYWKUBTTOD and actually manage to pronounce it properly, people will instantly recognize your profound level of dedication.

step 8: Invent your own hyper-specific genres. It's actually quite simple—just look at these: Rapmetalcore, Ambientoid, Technotic Trance, Austro-Zimbabwean Crazed Drumming, The Cosmic Super Happy Retro Sound, or The Nu-Reggae Movement. Aim to categorize all music into these invented labels so your definitions encompass everything ever recorded.

step 9: Form a band. Honestly, talent is secondary—it shouldn't stop you from theoretically landing a spot on MTV. Though, of course, you won't actually *want* to be on MTV. In fact, you probably won't even care about writing or performing. Your only goal is to be able to claim membership in a group that is fundamentally superior to every other band in existence.

step 10
: Always remember that you are the ultimate musical authority. No one possesses more knowledge than you, and heaven help the person who dares to question your taste. You are a force to be reckoned with. You are a true, cool music snob.
Frank Howard79 Frank Howard79 Active Member
179 messages
joined Dec 2002
#2 ·
THE LAW!!!🙏

Point 10 is definitely the best one 😁
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Michelle Gonzalez Michelle Gonzalez Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2004
#3 ·
I would also suggest adding the term "post-rock" to the list. It seems even more scattered and disjointed than "post-modernism" itself... perhaps there is some sort of fatal attraction at play here?
(Forgive my heavy-handed use of these fancy terms and my sudden reliance on Anglicisms; one can clearly see the influence of my years spent reading academic journals.)
Daniel Bailey7 Daniel Bailey7 Regular
526 messages
joined Dec 2002
#4 ·
Man, I felt that one deep in my soul... 😁

Pure JUSTICE!!!! 🙏 🙏 🙏

np. aywkubttod - mach schau 🙂
Alex Martinez4 Alex Martinez4 Member
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joined Dec 2004
#5 ·
...hahaha....Gazelle, this is brilliant.........truly top-tier................😁 😁 😁 🙏 🙏 🙏
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
100 messages
joined Dec 2005
#6 ·
Look, when you say "AYWKUBTTOD," it just doesn't hit the same as "...TOD"

I shortened the acronym! I'm clearly the winner here!
crimsonjackal8 crimsonjackal8 Member
41 messages
joined Feb 2003
#7 ·
So now I finally see where I messed up 😳 😛
lonebison37 lonebison37 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Aug 2003
#8 ·
Spot on 😁😁
btw liberatore, blueranger12 - you guys totally nailed it 😁 👍
man, we seriously need to expand the rules here...
urbanhawk15 urbanhawk15 Member
17 messages
joined Feb 2003
#9 ·
The Gazelles said:The 10-step guide to being a total music elitist

Step 1:

calling people sellouts—that’s my go-to, though I find myself using it way less lately...

calling people posers—I don't do that...

labeling stuff commercial/evil—yeah, I definitely use that one...

anything else—nah, not really...

so, 0.5 points...

Step 2:

refusing to listen to certain bands (I listened to Sonic Youth once, but that barely counts)...

so, 0 points...

Step 3:

not hating specific bands but not loving them either, so let's say...

0.5 points...

Step 4:

oh yeah... just ask Edward Robinson6 (who rarely posts anyway) about how much of a smartass I can be sometimes...

I’d probably give myself another 2 points but rules are rules... so basically:

1 point...

Step 5:

loving the hunt for new bands but not thinking everyone else is a loser if they find them after me... so here we go:

0.5 points...

Step 6:

0 points...

Step 7:

0 points...

Step 8:

0 points...

Step 9:

1 point...

Step 10:

0.5 points (I mean, I know everything there is to know about The Prodigy, I could talk their heads off for hours... jebiga, just some old boyish obsession... plus I tend to get deep into other random stuff too, so it's hard to pigeonhole me (go check Edward Robinson6 again))...

Grand total:

4 points... if 50% is a passing grade, then I totally failed, even if this 40% feels pretty intimidating, so I'll work on it...

anyway, regarding the thread...

it's just that the posers on this forum will never come clean (come on, Edward Robinson6, just admit it, I saw your CD collection list, there's plenty of evidence there... don't be scared)

and yeah, cheers everyone, I'm off to go kill myself, or as Timothy says...

why not?
why not.
why not!
why not...
why not?!
Susan Miller3 Susan Miller3 Member
14 messages
joined Aug 2003
#10 ·
urbanhawk15, quit messing around, who else is gonna hold the mic?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#11 ·
Jebiga, since when does being a snob mean you have to speak English? I'm seriously not going to waste my brainpower reading that.
Amy Turner10 Amy Turner10 Member
20 messages
joined Jul 2003
#12 ·
Man, that actually gave me a good laugh. I just don't get those music snobs, you know? Like, they suddenly have to be experts on every band's origin story, who influenced them, their exact genre... and then all that other stuff listed here.
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
100 messages
joined Dec 2005
#13 ·
Man, how do you even talk to those snobs who look down on "regular" people who just listen to MTV? What do you even say to them? They’ve never even heard of the basics, like Pixies or Sonic Youth. To them, the stuff we listen to is like some alien planet they didn't even know existed. How am I supposed to answer when they ask, "So, what do you listen to?"
Nicole Baker Nicole Baker Member
12 messages
joined Dec 2002
#14 ·
blueranger12 said:Man, how do you even talk to those snobs who look down on "regular" people just listening to MTV? Like, what do you even say to them? They probably haven't even heard of the basics, like Pixies or Sonic Youth. To them, the stuff we listen to is basically an entirely different universe they don't even know exists. How am I supposed to answer when they ask, "So, what do you listen to?"

I suppose that’s really the best part of being a snob... 😁 maybe I just give them this condescending little smirk and suggest there's a whole world of music they've simply never encountered... 😁 haha... though, honestly, I don't mind sharing my CDs; I'm not exactly known for being stingy... 😉 😛
driftingowl27 driftingowl27 Active Member
89 messages
joined Dec 2002
#15 ·
Nicole Baker said:Nah, but I’m always down to film some tits, I'm not exactly known for being stingy...


Same here... sometimes my friends give me these weird looks (like when I play the latest Xiu Xiu 😁), but other times they seem pretty happy with my taste (like my Velveta 🙂 compilation)
jebiga... 😁
Edward Robinson6 Edward Robinson6 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jan 2003
#16 ·
I don't bother lending my vinyl to anyone because honestly, my friends don't even care about what I'm spinning. Most of the guys I hang out with are strictly into old-school classic rock, maybe some grunge, or just basic garage bands... plus Edo Mother, which is pretty much the only thing we actually agree on. Still, I once let Lipse borrow a few records and he actually dug them. He actually swung by yesterday to grab a massive stack of new stuff. Probably gonna bring them all back tomorrow, but hey, who knows... maybe they'll actually stick.🙄
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
100 messages
joined Dec 2005
#17 ·
I tried pushing Lipse and Mercury Rev on my crew—you know, some more sane stuff—along with plenty of other great tracks, but nothing stuck. My buddy loves the Pixies, but only because he heard they were legends. For anything else, I’m gonna have to work a lot harder.
Bradley Bennett57 Bradley Bennett57 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2005
#18 ·
It honestly drives me crazy when people act like listening to Pixies automatically makes them the coolest person in the room, as if everyone else’s taste is just total garbage... I know a few people exactly like that from my college days. They fit that description perfectly.

Personally, that music isn't really my thing, but that doesn't make me an idiot. It certainly doesn't mean I'm out here blasting mindless pop hits you'd hear on MTV all day long.

Mostly, I stick to Leonard Cohen (his lyrics put the Pixies to shame, honestly), though I also enjoy Nick Cave, Norah Jones, Aretha Franklin, Bob Dylan, and the rest.

I listen to them because I genuinely enjoy them. I don't feel the need to act like I'm somehow better—or worse—than anyone else based on what's playing in my headphones.
mistypanther mistypanther Member
45 messages
joined Nov 2003
#19 ·
Yeah, right. And then I’ll just go out and record some double feature with a new split CD featuring trembling flops
Honestly, though, the first Don Johnsons album is their absolute best
I mean, who am I even talking to? How can I explain anything to people who don't know who Daargs Vooerkenhstdaal is, or what exactly you were drinking with Albin while debating how young indie rockers influence post-rock production?
In hell,
Damn this MTV generation
jebiga 😁
blueranger12 blueranger12 Active Member
100 messages
joined Dec 2005
#20 ·
lady a said:I mostly listen to Leonard Cohen (the Pixies don't even come close when it comes to lyrics)

Ahaha, nobody listens to the Pixies for the lyrics 😁
Look, the Pixies aren't for everyone. Not under any circumstances. And I’m not saying that because they're only for "refined" listeners. No. It's just like how Death metal or some weird experimental classical stuff isn't for everybody. Only people who treat music and sonic exploration like a full-time job can dig through everything. The rest of us mortals just listen to what we like. The only real problem is when people start listening to country radio hits 🙂 . Wait, that didn't come out right. By that logic, country would be in the same league. And honestly, I haven't figured out a way to prove to anyone that country music is objectively bad. Has anyone else cracked that code yet?

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