Robin Taylor2 said:To begin with:
Personally, I think you overlooked one key detail in your analysis.
Antonioni opens the film.
Is there anything more predictable than the sudden surge of youthful anarchism that seems to reject absolutely everything? It’s become this repetitive cycle where every new generation decides that opposing the entire establishment is their primary personality trait. Why does it always feel like they’re just rebelling against the concept of existence itself?
He’s clearly visible in the scene as they walk right past a group of uniformed officers.
First you have the nurses, then the Secret Service.
First off, thanks for being such a great conversationalist. =)
If you take another look at that final paragraph in the introduction, you'll notice two specific points being made in this paragraph.
Regarding the film:
Work said:1. I feel obligated to mention that I’m certainly not attempting to exhaust every single point here.
His meanings, without ever bothering to nitpick every single moment that catches the eye.
The work should have been framed primarily as a pure analysis of perception, with as much as possible...
Ten pages, plus there was a deadline looming over the whole thing.
Done. As I started diving into the analysis, I began noticing more and more...
Look, I don't have enough time to include absolutely everything here, but certain things are...
Unfortunately, they fall outside the interpretive spectrum. So, should we really be looking at this work as...
A complete analysis that leaves absolutely nothing left to say, effectively doing exactly that.
What he mentions in the introduction... plus a little more, given how much room they gave me to work with.
Time.
Work said:2. I could probably structure the entire paper as an analysis, for instance.
How much does the protagonist's approach to his own relationships actually dictate the way he views gender dynamics?
The models and other female participants in the film won't be given the same treatment regarding this topic.
Priority status will be processed just enough to get things outlined.
What can really be said about the central character's evolution, or rather, the lack thereof? We watch them move from the opening frame to the credits, tracing a trajectory that supposedly signifies growth, yet one has to wonder if they are actually changing or just reacting to increasingly absurd circumstances. Is it true character development, or just a series of inevitable shifts forced by the plot?
You could read this paragraph as an attempt to swap out the analysis of "gender dynamics" entirely.
Taking a closer look at the concept of "youth anarchism." To put it simply, as I’ll explain below,
My primary objective was simply to shine a light on certain people and events, specifically where they carry enough weight to warrant it.
The impact on Hemingway's character. Following that, if I were to address this point...
I don't think the criticism is particularly justified. Why?
On one hand, I don't really see the point in labeling young mime artists as anarchists.
I'm not implying that kind of character trait by labeling them as some "group of degenerates."
A bunch of wild kids running around in mime costumes and face paint.
Coated in white, they just keep heading down the street after stepping out of the Jeep.
"...in a Dionysian frenzy, letting out nothing but incoherent sounds." I also dedicate them to...
They play a pivotal role right at the finish line—the kind of people who stubbornly refuse to fall in line.
They operate within an exclusively materialistic paradigm of the world, exerting a decisive influence as such.
str. 20 said:"[..], observing how the mimes find fulfillment in existing within the
moment, minimally dependent on the material things at their
disposal, one could say that from the first time he saw the
mimes at the start of the film until his current encounter with them—his
mindset undergoes an Odyssean journey from a capitalist-
misanthropic view to one that is finally enlightened, realizing there is nothing left
to realize, thereby exposing and discarding the false luster of capitalist
society in favor of the joy found in simply being present."
However, that bolded word (
minimally) was used intentionally, because if you recall the
film's opening, they are still running around trying to collect money from passersby. So,
while they might subvert the social order with their unrestrained
performances, on the other hand, they aren't refusing to take cash from those who are
firmly entrenched in that very order. Because of this, I don't think
Antonioni's goal at that point was so much to highlight their anarchism as it was to show that
it is impossible to purely enjoy oneself and rebel against the system without someone
acting as an integral part of that system to supply the necessary funds. That’s where my
line of thought led me, connecting it to the next scene where the
existentially threatened proletariat emerges from a crumbling shelter. I also called that group of young
people the forces of the bourgeois avant-garde, because while they do bring novelty to the
social fabric, they remain dependent on others' resources and remain indifferent to the
existential struggles of others. Still, there is a massive difference in that part of the
film between them and Hemingway: while the young mimes collect funds
so they can live more freely and unconstrained by society, Hemingway
primarily lives just to collect funds.
Regarding the Royal Guard and the nuns, I noticed that moment, though
I didn't consider it directly linked to undermining Hemingway's character, or rather,
the specific criterion I use when analyzing events outside the main
plot. Additionally, I interpreted the running nuns and the marginalization of the Royal
Guard as the erosion of religious and monarchical values in the face of
shifting social structures in 1960s New York, but since
I questioned those same issues later through a different set of examples, the analysis of that section
was omitted for the sake of brevity.
str. 5 said:[..] we see Hemingway driving through New York, caught in the swirl
of urbanization, implied by the series of new buildings and construction sites he
passes, and at the end of the drive, he notices two feminized men with
poodles, remarking later that "what is the deal with all these
buildings popping up everywhere? There are already gays and poodles everywhere." If we
add the later scenes of protests against nuclear weapons
and the group of Black Americans dressed in traditional attire wandering
casually through the streets of New York before Hemingway nearly runs them over with his horn, one
could assume that Antonioni intended to depict all of this as symptoms
of a new era.
Robin Taylor2 said:In that bookstore scene, if my memory serves me right,
the owner mentions wanting to head off to Nepal (you mentioned Tibet).
Contrary to your take on how the youth yearn to escape into some brave new world,
my impression is that the director is reminding us of an age-old human fallacy:
it’s always better somewhere else, and the grass is always greener on the other side.
You're right about Nepal; my mistake (that's what happens when you write late at night while being geographically close to the region,
ah =) ). As for your observation... we have this old employee at the antique shop
who refuses to change a single thing and is perfectly content where he is, quite
happy with the grass on his own lawn =) On the flip side, the young owner
of the shop is the one trying to sell everything off just so she can hit the road
to a place where she won't encounter any relics from the past. So, we're looking at a conflict between "
youth/
age" and "
appreciation for antiques/desire for novelty". If we
look at how that fits with your theory, we end up concluding that it
isn't actually better to be somewhere else for everyone—because the old employee is fine exactly
where he stands, and the grass isn't always greener elsewhere—since the girl
doesn't want to go anywhere specific, she just wants to go somewhere that doesn't have old junk.