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How to appeal a permanent ban?

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brightcrane56 brightcrane56 MemberOP
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joined Sep 2007
#1 ·
What are the actual requirements for getting a permanent ban overturned? And more importantly, why aren't they clearly laid out in the forum rules?
If the rules explicitly state exactly how someone gets banned, then it’s only fair that they also specify who, when, and under what circumstances a permanent ban can be pardoned.
Whatever applies to Microsoft should apply to all the other 352,697 members of this forum too.
Matthew Jackson2 Matthew Jackson2 Active Member
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joined Jan 2016
#2 ·
A notarized affidavit swearing on your life that you’ll actually follow the forum rules from here on out, sent via certified mail directly to our corporate headquarters.

All jokes aside, "perma" in a perma-ban is just shorthand for permanent—as in, forever. I think that provides a perfectly adequate answer to your question; if something is described as permanent, it means it's permanent. It doesn't leave much room for interpretation, does it?
brightcrane56 brightcrane56 MemberOP
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joined Sep 2007
#3 ·
Matthew Jackson2 said:A notarized affidavit swearing you'll follow the community guidelines from now on, sent via certified mail to our corporate headquarters in Delaware.

All jokes aside, "perma" is just short for permanent. I think that actually answers your question quite clearly—if something is labeled as permanent, then it’s meant to be forever.

Well, not on this site. We have plenty of evidence right here showing that "perma" doesn't always mean forever, and honestly, it would be nice if us regular users could get a lesson on how to turn a "permanent" status into something in the past tense.
Matthew Jackson2 Matthew Jackson2 Active Member
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joined Jan 2016
#4 ·
brightcrane56 said:It’s not even happening on Reddit. You can clearly see examples right here where a "permanent" ban doesn't actually mean forever. Honestly, I wish they’d give us regular users some insight into how you turn something meant to be permanent into a mere suggestion.

Until we get an official word from the admins, all I can tell you is that there are likely instances where a permanent ban was overturned because someone actually reached out personally and filed a successful appeal.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#5 ·
Look, we haven't listed absolutely every single possible reason someone could get banned here. We just pulled out the most frequent offenses and the heaviest hitters, but let’s be real—there's always going to be some loophole or clever way people try to skirt the rules just to land themselves a ban anyway. It’s the same deal with permanent bans; we don't provide an exhaustive list of "forgiven" scenarios because those are handled on an extremely exceptional basis. There is no rule saying we owe anyone a reversal of a permanent ban, and there's certainly no "right" to have one lifted. We look at every single case individually, weighing a whole mountain of different factors before making a call.

I feel like we've already gone over this, and I know you aren't happy with how things stand. I totally get that this isn't the answer you were hoping for, but honestly, I don't see any point in us going in circles about it anymore.

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