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F1 Imola GP: April 24th @ 3 PM ET

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cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#101 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Nothing much, he just pulled off a Grand Slam 🙄

stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#102 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Last year, those sprint weekends were worth more.
Everyone knows the rules—at Imola, you could have walked away with 34 points if you won the sprint, won the main race, and snagged the FL.

Blah, blah, blah...
It’s pure stupidity, just like that old madness where they gave double points for the final race.

There is zero justification for why Imola should be worth more than any other standard race.
Honestly, it's just a joke that people will eventually call out because it's unnatural and makes no sense.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#103 ·
The whole Lance Stroll / Sebastian Vettel situation at Aston Martin is actually pretty funny if you think about it...
Lance Stroll basically did absolutely nothing all weekend besides overtaking Lewis Hamilton at the start just to snag a single point. 😳

Qualified 15th on Friday...
Finished 15th in the Sprint...
Started the race in 15th...
Overtook Lewis Hamilton at the start to move up to 14th...
And that was his entire contribution to the race.

Then Ricc slammed into Carlos Sainz, leaving both of them stuck behind Lance Stroll—so, Sainz DNF, Ricc falls to the back, and suddenly Stroll climbs to 12th...
Michael Schumacher collided with Fernando Alonso, so Schumacher finishes behind Stroll, and then Alonso gets a DNF too, landing him behind Stroll, which bumps Lance up to 10th...

And sure, everyone’s claiming the car and the team have "improved." Yeah, right.
They didn't improve; they just benefited because Ricc and Mick decided to wreck into the Spaniards, and because Lujo was completely checked out and basically fell asleep at the start...
Overall? It's a mess, not progress.

Sebastian Vettel is a pretty similar story. Better qualifying, sure, but by the end of the day, his only real "progress" was barely holding off Kevin Magnussen. That's about it.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#104 ·
stormybadger8 said:Bla-bla...
It is nothing more than pure nonsense, quite similar to that old madness from years ago when they tried implementing double points for the season finale.

There is absolutely no logical justification for why Imola should carry more weight than any other standard race on the calendar.
Ultimately, it feels like a farce that will eventually be discarded once people realize how unnatural and nonsensical the whole concept truly is.

I am not even arguing whether the sprint format is justifiable—to my mind, it lacks any inherent sense at all. However, since it exists, Max Verstappen simply ensures he maximizes his performance within it.
cosmicmoose2 cosmicmoose2 Active Member
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#105 ·
stormybadger8 said:It’s all just a joke waiting to happen... someone’s gonna call it out eventually because the whole thing is unnatural and makes zero sense.

This whole Sprint concept is total garbage. It basically just gives the top teams a massive safety net to fix their mistakes if they mess up qualifying. And then they get extra points on top of it? Unbelievable.
The most extreme example was last year in the USA, where Lewis Hamilton managed to claw his way from 20th on the grid all the way to 1st place in the race.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#106 ·
graniteharbor502 said:So according to some expert breakdown on the official Formula 1 site, Red Bull managed to shave off 3 kg, but they're still sitting with a 7 kg disadvantage compared to Ferrari.

Anyway, the greatest driver alive managed to snag 34 points in a single race weekend at Imola, which is something absolutely nobody else in history has ever pulled off. Haters gonna hate 🙂

Yeah, except that’s just not true. 😉

He scored 34 points over two races in one weekend. 😉 ☕
crimsonjackal16 crimsonjackal16 Member
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#107 ·
stormybadger8 said:Bla-bla...
It’s just pure stupidity—honestly, it reminds me of that old nonsense where they tried doing double points at the season finale.

There is absolutely zero justification for why Imola should be worth more than any other standard race.
At the end of the day, it's just a joke waiting to happen—someone will eventually call it out because it feels forced and makes no sense.

Hey, word is they might bump the number of sprint races up to six instead of three in the future.

https://edition.cnn.com/example-article-link
Lawrence Garcia5 Lawrence Garcia5 Active Member
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#108 ·
I can't help but feel like Lewis Hamilton is just totally unmotivated lately.

If they don't actually make some real progress with the car, nothing is going to change.
George Russell needs to step up and start fighting; he has to prove himself.

It's pretty obvious Hamilton is having a bit of a mental breakdown right now.
cosmicmoose2 cosmicmoose2 Active Member
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#109 ·
Lawrence Garcia5 said:I’ve gotta say, I feel like Lewis Hamilton just isn't feeling it lately... lacks that drive.

Unless they actually fix the car, nothing is gonna change. Period.
George Russell needs to step up and prove he belongs there. He's gotta bite!

It’s obvious—Hamilton is having a total mental meltdown right now. It's clear as day.

Maybe he stops giving it his all when the car isn't championship material. But honestly? That's a terrible move, especially since George Russell is already making his presence felt.
Look, five or six races won't strip him of his #1 status at Mercedes, but if he keeps sliding like this all season, Russell could easily snatch that top spot away...
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#110 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Anyway, today’s greatest driver managed to snag 34 points in a single race at Imola, something nobody else in history has ever pulled off. Haters gonna hate 🙂

Some clueless hack journalist must have written that. Only an illiterate idiot could churn out such nonsense and still keep their job 🙂
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ce-result.html

Unbelievable. Some illiterate reporter thinks history only counts from 2015 onwards... apparently everything before 2015 just doesn't exist 🤣
Lawrence Garcia5 Lawrence Garcia5 Active Member
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#111 ·
Yeah, that idiotic rule where the last race counts for double points.
Honestly, that’s just one of those bigger sports absurdities if you ask me. 🤦🙏🤣🤣
Lawrence Garcia5 Lawrence Garcia5 Active Member
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#112 ·
cosmicmoose2 said:Maybe he just isn't trying because the car isn't championship material anymore. But honestly, that's a risky move—George Russell is already making his case.
Sure, losing five or six races won't strip him of his #1 status at Mercedes overnight, but if this keeps up all season, Russell might actually become the new #1.

If Mercedes gets their act together, Lewis will go right back to his usual mood.
Things have just lined up for Russell; he's the new guy, he's hungry. When your teammate is a 7-time world champion, you're going to be looking for any chance to prove yourself.

Russell’s driving has been solid, and I'll admit, he surprised me a bit, but I don't think this gap is as real as it looks.

I can get where Lewis is coming from, even if he is being a bit difficult with guys like Pierre Gasly and Yuki Tsunoda.
He might have already checked out for the season. Toto can say whatever he wants, but the chances of them becoming true contenders again are pretty slim.
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#113 ·
stormybadger8 said:Some clueless hack probably wrote this—only someone totally illiterate would spout such nonsense and still have a job🙂
https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ce-result.html

Unbelievable. Some illiterate journalist thinks history only counts from 2015 onwards... I guess everything before 2015 just doesn't matter, right?🤣

And I guess Felipe Massa scored more points than Max Verstappen too😬
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#114 ·
Exactly ☕
If we’re judging greatness based on who managed to rack up the most points in a single GP weekend, then the list looks like this:
No. 1 - Lewis Hamilton...
No. 2 - always No2 Masica 😍

And don't even get me started on Maxić...

Haters gonna hate 🙂
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#115 ·
Is it not truly remarkable that Max Verstappen has become the first driver in history to achieve such a feat within a single Grand Prix weekend, securing a pole position, capturing the sprint race victory, winning the main Grand Prix, and driving a full distance lead?

EOD.
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#116 ·
And how many sprint races have actually happened in history?
It’s nothing to write home about, really.
Winning all those listed trophies without even having a sprint in the mix is a category that’s been around forever. And honestly, that's worth noting because it doesn't happen often.
But personally, I wouldn't go around calling something "the first in history" if it's only happened a handful of times. Just my two cents.

What I actually find interesting is that this is the first time since 1979 that we've seen two drivers pull off a Grand Slam in the same season.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#117 ·
Roger Wright94 said:And how many sprint races have actually been held throughout history?
It isn't exactly a massive achievement worth shouting from the rooftops.
Winning all those milestones without even having a sprint involved is a category that was established ages ago, and frankly, it is quite impressive because it doesn't happen very often.
However, I would be hesitant to throw around the term "first in history" for something that has only occurred a handful of times. In my humble opinion, anyway.

What I find much more fascinating is the detail that this marks the first time since 1979 that two different drivers have managed to secure a Grand slam within the same season.

So, considering there is yet another extra criterion to satisfy, I find myself wondering when we might see this happen again—specifically, which driver besides Max will manage to pull it off? If you ask me, I don't think anyone currently on the grid has what it takes.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#118 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Max Verstappen is the first driver in history to take home a PP, win the sprint, win the main race, and pull off a FL all during the same Grand Prix.

EOD.

Quite the resume...
He’s got the fastest car on the grid, his competition either gets crushed by Rick or just crashes out, and oh look, a miracle—he won 🙂
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Seriously, praising him is like praising Hamilton for being able to land on the podium in every single race he actually finished in 2014 because he was driving that absolute beast of a Mercedes-Benz.🙂
It's not that Max isn't a good driver, but acting like this is some legendary feat when at least 30% of the guys on the grid could probably pull it off with that car is ridiculous. It doesn't earn him any "greatest of all time" or "best ever" nonsense.
James Harris34 James Harris34 Active Member
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#119 ·
🙂
stormybadger8 said:What kind of achievements are those?
You have the absolute fastest car on the grid, your competition either gets wiped out by Rick or just crashes themselves out, and oh look, a miracle—you won 🙂
.
Honestly, praising him is just like praising Hamilton, because he managed to land on the podium in every single race (that he actually finished) during that 2014 season thanks to that beast of a Mercedes machine 🙂
. It’s not that Max isn't a great driver, but glorifying something that at least 30% of the guys on the grid could probably pull off with that specific car isn't exactly worth the "greatest of all time" or "best ever" labels, blah blah blah...

Exactly. Honestly, if this season keeps going the way it is, I think Perez might actually start giving Maximilian a run for his money, assuming Horner and the crew let him...
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#120 ·
stormybadger8 said:What kind of achievements are we even talking about here?
When you possess by far the fastest car on the grid—a machine that essentially sweeps aside the competition whether it's because Rick is struggling or just making his own mistakes—and then, oh look, what a miracle, you manage to win 🙂
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Honestly, glorifying this is quite similar to how people worship Hamilton; after all, he managed to land on the podium in every single race (that he actually finished) during that 2014 season behind that beast of a Mercedes-Benz. 🙂
It is far from being the case that Max isn't a talented driver, truly, but when you celebrate something that at least 30% of the drivers on the grid could likely achieve given that specific car, does it really warrant those grand titles like "greatest of all time" or "best ever" or whatever else people blather on about?

Given the sheer chaos of the conditions—dealing with rain, a drying track, various red flags, and safety cars—it was certainly a significant feat. If that concept is difficult to grasp, perhaps you might try sketching it out...

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