F1 Montreal GP: June 7-9, 2019

gentlemoose57 said:Honestly, what a circus.

I think I'd be embarrassed to act like that—especially since it hasn't even been a year yet.

Yet they just ignore everything and stick to their script about how poor Sebastian Vettel was robbed today. 🤣🤣🤣

stormyviper2 said:Once again, you’re ignoring the facts.
1. The excursion off the track was handled as clumsily as possible, avoiding a collision.
2. They easily could have collided.

The only question left is whether this warrants a five-second penalty or not. Regardless, the exit was incredibly sloppy. Even players on Gran Turismo are two hundred times more precise than that. xD

That wasn't an intentional exit from the track; it was an uncontrolled slide back onto the circuit, and there simply wasn't any other way to react.

Unless, of course, you were under the impression that Sebastian Vettel should have executed that move more slowly—which I highly doubt you were.

Gary Palmer8 said:Regardless, you've got Senna and Lewis Hamilton... The only way Schumacher is considered the GOAT is if you're a "hardcore" Ferrari fan who thinks today's penalty was totally unnecessary...

Are you talking about the massive PR machine used to hype up Hamilton as a superstar? You might see that kind of bias in a VB poll, but anywhere else in the world, it's a stretch.
As for today’s penalty, judging by what people who actually live and breathe Formula 1 are saying—people way more invested than us on this forum—it seems like everyone is actually rooting for Ferrari. 🙄

mellowtiger83 said:A driver actually needs to know how to hit the brakes, in case you wanted to enlighten us.

Sure, but timely and precise braking? That’s what separates the pros from the amateurs. 👍

In my view, both Sebastian Vettel's penalty and Maxov's move in the Suzuki were mistakes.

crimsonhawk23, quit wasting your time on this nonsense

mellowtiger83 said:That wasn't a controlled exit onto the track; it was a complete loss of control, and there was honestly nothing he could have done differently.

Unless you're under the impression that Sebastian Vettel should have just taken it slower, which I highly doubt.

Look, speaking as someone who plays GT Sport at an elite level online, if you ask me, that move was just sloppy. Sorry, but it’s the truth.

At the end of the day, I don't really care whether he gets a penalty or not. I'm just calling it like I see it: that was incredibly messy execution.

Moderators, I think it’s finally time for....... 🙂

mellowtiger83 said:That wasn't an intentional move onto the track—it was just an uncontrolled slide where there was really no other way to react.

Unless, of course, you're assuming Sebastian Vettel should have played it safer, which I suspect isn't your take.

To reiterate—with a few slight adjustments for today's situation—your own words:

mellowtiger83 said:I've watched that Sebastian Vettel vs. Lewis Hamilton duel about a hundred times now, and it’s pretty hard to conclude that Sebastian Vettel isn't being an idiot.
In the case of Lewis Hamilton, a five-second penalty is laughable because this was a reckless move; even on Sebastian Vettel's onboard camera, you can see the intent—and I emphasize *intent*—to swing back into Lewis Hamilton's line specifically to block him from overtaking at any cost.

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I don't follow who the stewards are or what on earth happens to make them turn a blind eye to stuff like this, handing out a mere five seconds for such blatant intent.

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Honestly, either give him the penalty he actually deserves, or the drivers should stage a protest and refuse to race while he's on the track—much like that one time in history when several drivers refused to drive while Patres was competing.
If you ask me, Patres stayed clean and focused on racing in the years following that.

Sebastian Vettel deserves nothing less than the kind of thrashing Eddie Irvin received back when he thought he was being clever.

Your. Very. Own. Words.

gentlemoose57 said:Good grief, what a circus.

I would find it quite embarrassing to fail this spectacularly, especially considering not even a year has passed.

Listen closely: Max had total control over the car and was intentionally defensive; Sebastian Vettel wasn't even in the running.

If that’s how you view the situation, then honestly, you might as well just pack it all in.

Richard Walker38 said:crimsonhawk23, I'd maybe suggest you stop chasing ghosts

And then there's also what you mentioned 🙂

crimsonhawk23 said:....

A waste of effort. 😁

crimsonhawk23 said:But they just keep ignoring the facts—stubbornly sticking to their own little narrative—insisting that poor Sebastian Vettel was robbed out there today! 🤣🤣🤣

He stepped on the gas—meaning there was clear intent—so that penalty is a hundred percent justified.

Nobody over on Sky even bothered to bring up Japan 2018—you know, that absolute disaster where things weren't even fair for five seconds?

Honestly, what a blast—and I’m not even talking about the race itself. Just sitting here reading all this absolute nonsense and everyone tearing each other apart? That’s easily going to be the highlight of my entire night.

crimsonhawk23 said:To echo your own sentiment, albeit with a slight adjustment for current circumstances:

Your. Very. Own. Words.

Here is the link, since you seem to be suffering from that same lack of vision we saw in the video featuring Max Verstappen.