The debate over alternative medicine vs. vaccinations

Hey everyone, I’m asking if someone could please ban the user al dente. They’ve been being super disrespectful to me and making false claims about my identity—specifically regarding my sister Veronica, who was actually just featured on TV recently. Sadly, I don't see that little red triangle icon to report a post anywhere.

If you’d just stop spreading this sick propaganda, maybe nobody would feel the need to call you out...

By the way,
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Mark Cruz15 said:If you’d just stop spreading this sick propaganda, nobody would be coming for you in the first place.

By the way,

😬, I really think we need to push Mark Cruz15 for a moderator position so he can finally bring some actual order to all these fake alternatives.

Hey, it’s been ages since we actually had a decent discussion about an alternative to the presidential candidate, hasn't it? It feels like it's been nearly two months 🙏 🤣

@Kimberly Ward/">@@Kimberly Ward, I won't be using the report button because the Alternative subforum hasn't had a moderator for a full year now. 👎
Unfortunately, that’s exactly why we see this constant stream of insults from a handful of the same regular users; they know there won't be any consequences.

You can probably notice it yourself, as a few of those same individuals (just take a look at my ignore list) seem to write every single post on the Alternative board with the sole purpose of insulting, using ad hominem attacks, and harassing anyone with a different opinion.
Not one of their posts is an exception.

Let's hope the administration decides to take a look at this. 🕺

@Mark Cruz15/">@@Mark Cruz15, while you don't typically follow that specific modus operandi, it really isn't right to support the verbal abuse of others just because they hold a view different from yours or anyone else's. 👎

We all know this forum is meant to be a place for exchanging ideas.
So, why is it so unacceptable to you when someone thinks differently than you do?

On what basis do you feel entitled to label someone else's perspective as sick propaganda and back the harassment of that person?

Maybe someone else feels the exact same way about your own views, but they still respect them and refrain from attacking anyone.

Ethan Barrett22 said:We all understand that this forum exists specifically as a space for exchanging ideas...
So why on earth is it so fundamentally unacceptable to you that someone might hold an opinion contrary to your own?

It’s because those anti-vaxxers are just spreading pure panic, scaring people away from getting their shots, and then people end up dying because of it. This entire thread needs to be wiped out, and I mean permanently deleted...

Ethan Barrett22 said:@Kimberly Ward/">@@Kimberly Ward, reporting via the little icon isn't going to do much because the Alternative subforum hasn't had a moderator in over a year. 👎
Unfortunately, that’s exactly why we see this constant stream of insults from the same handful of users; they know there's no one around to hand out sanctions.

You can probably see it yourself—that same small group of people (just take a look at my ignore list) write basically everything on the Alternative board solely to insult, launch ad hominem attacks, and harass anyone who doesn't share their views.
Not a single one of their posts is an exception.

Let's just hope the admins decide to take a look eventually. 🕺

@Mark Cruz15/">@@Mark Cruz15, even though you don't usually operate that way, it really isn't cool to back someone up when they're being abusive just because that person happens to disagree with you or anyone else. 👎

We all know this forum is supposed to be a place for exchanging ideas.
So why is it so unacceptable to you that someone might think differently than you do?

On what basis do you feel entitled to label someone else's opinion as dangerous propaganda and then support the verbal abuse of that individual?

Maybe someone else feels the exact same way about your opinion, but they still respect it enough not to resort to insults.

Ah, the old free speech argument, is it? 🤣

Just because you hold a certain view doesn't mean it's sacred. Or equal to someone else's view. It's not equal, it's not objectively true, and it's certainly not correct.

Your opinion is perfectly fair game for questioning and scrutiny.

And if—or rather, when—it turns out that your views and the advice you peddle lead to a resurgence of infectious diseases that kill immunocompromised people and young children (just look at the death tolls from measles outbreaks in Romania and Mexico), then, in the absence of any moderators, it becomes absolutely necessary to call out and mock such a charlatan and morally/intellectually bankrupt individual.

Why is it necessary? Because of the decent, frightened people searching for information who stumble upon various "Ibrahims" and similar intellectually and morally shambolic types, whose rambling nonsense and fraudulent advice actually put lives at risk.

The aforementioned free speech warrior (🤣) is the author of unforgettable claims, like saying raw food cures everything, or acting as an apologist for ideas like the notion that carrot juice is molecularly almost identical to human blood, or those things about miracle apple seeds, claiming eating about 10 seeds a day (raw, obviously) can cure someone of cancer within a few months. And then there's his brilliant counterpart, Slađana Velkov, a slightly more intense lunatic whose incredible statements you can find here.

So, why are we so harsh on charlatans?

I'll try to explain it simply:

Encouraging people (directly or indirectly) to not vaccinate children against infectious diseases that have been (nearly) eradicated by vaccines is...

a) rushed and/or
b) malicious.

Before kids even hit the age where they’re allowed on any official vaccination schedule, they're out there being exposed to stuff like the flu. The only thing standing between them and a nasty bout of sickness is herd immunity—basically, having enough people vaccinated so that an outbreak can't actually gain traction.

The more people opt out, the higher the risk of a full-blown epidemic. Just look at the death tolls from measles outbreaks over in Romania and Mexico.

So, when I say we're commenting here to try and protect kids from the whims of lunatics, that’s exactly what we’re doing. Look, I’m under no illusions that anyone on the anti-vax side is going to suddenly have an epiphany and realize how wrong they are. No. By mocking their nonsense and debunking those syphilitic ideas peddled by the forum's resident anti-vaxxers—people who are basically just following the lead of influencers like Jenny McCarthy or other loudmouths meant to scare terrified, well-meaning parents—we show those proponents (Ethan Barrett22 and his crowd) THEY DON'T have any real expertise (they barely have any knowledge at all), THEY AREN'T saviors (they're mostly just saving their own wallets), THEY AREN'T among the enlightened few who know "the truth," THEY AREN'T experts (honestly, some of them seem to have serious mental health issues), and THEY LACK any scientifically grounded evidence (they don't understand science; they're actually afraid of it).

What they actually possess is a massive messiah complex, a sense of unearned superiority, pure malice, and they are textbook examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Their actions are capable of causing catastrophic damage to immunocompromised individuals and small children.

That’s what we’re fighting against, and that’s what we’ll keep fighting. We’re fighting ignorance, misinformation, bad faith, and this modern trend of elevating the typical village idiot to the status of a truth-teller.

We are fighting for the kids and the vulnerable.

If you ask me, we really ought to > the vaccination thread and move it over to the Alternative Medicine section, because right now it's just a breeding ground for deranged anti-vax rhetoric. It’s becoming a lot like the Raw Food thread.

The next logical step should be purging these "career" anti-vaxxers from this forum. This isn't about free speech; it's about public health. It's about basic hygiene, for crying out loud.

Which, if I do say so myself, is exactly what the moderators should be doing (and there we go, moving straight to step three, nice and fast).

SF

Ethan Barrett22 said:...
We all understand perfectly well that this forum is supposed to be a space for exchanging ideas.
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😬, but what kind of "exchange of ideas" are you even talking about? You’ve spewed so much absolute nonsense that everyone who tried to correct you ended up putting you on their ignore list. Now that your thread has been shut down because you couldn't stop acting like you're superior to everyone else, you're out here posting fake solutions in other threads.
But let's be honest, we both know there is no greater victory on a forum like this than when you dismantle someone so completely with logic and rhetoric that the only thing they have left to do is hit that ignore button.

Mark Cruz15 said:Because of the anti-vaxxers... They’re just spreading panic and trying to scare people. The risk is that if people simply refuse to get vaccinated, we’re going to see more people dying. It’s a grim possibility, I suppose.

In your previous post, you seemed to be singing a slightly different tune— You were actually making excuses for the insults. Does it actually work—in your opinion, I mean? The spread of such toxic propaganda is truly something else.

Mark Cruz15 said:Stop. Spreading such toxic propaganda... honestly, it’s just exhausting. I mean, let's be honest—it's highly unlikely anyone is actually going to want that. To insult.

Personal attacks and insults constitute a direct violation of our community guidelines. And even then, I don't think there's any real justification for it.
After all, I suppose that’s exactly what this forum is for—to provide a space where we can actually exchange ideas and hash things out. Everyone should be free to voice their own opinions, provided they aren't stepping over the line or breaking the rules.
If you find yourself at odds with someone, If you think you can actually manage to explain that to him, be my guest—though I wouldn't exactly hold my breath. ...or just close him down entirely. I suppose I should just ignore this.But you really shouldn't go around insulting him.
You already know all of this, but for some reason... It seems you’re trying to defend someone who hasn't contributed a single meaningful thought to this forum—unless, of course, that contribution was an insult or a cheap ad hominem attack.

And just a quick little follow-up:

Mark Cruz15 said:It all comes down to the anti-vaxxers, I suppose. Spreading panic. i It seems to be frightening people. I suppose there's also the possibility that people just choose not to get vaccinated. Then people die.

This should serve as proof.
And then there’s the constant spreading of panic and the way people are being frightened—especially... It’s a heavy thought, isn't it? The idea that someone could actually cause a person's death simply by posting on an online forum. I suppose it sounds like something out of a dark psychological thriller, but when you really sit with it, the implications are pretty staggering. I mean, we talk so much about "online discourse" and "internet drama" as if they are just harmless digital noise, but there’s a real weight to our words. If a series of posts triggers a mental health crisis, or if someone uses a platform to incite direct, physical harm against an individual, then the line between a digital comment and a fatal action starts to blur significantly. It makes me wonder where the legal accountability lies in those extreme cases. Is it just reckless speech, or does it cross into something more sinister? I guess it depends on how you define intent, but it’s certainly a chilling concept to contemplate. Those are some pretty bold claims, and... Serious allegations. I suppose you're wondering about the scope of what I can actually handle. It’s a fair question, really. I guess it depends on how you look at it, but generally speaking, I can tackle just about any topic you throw my way—provided we're looking for a thoughtful, well-structured response. Whether you need me to dive deep into a complex subject, help refine some writing, or perhaps just offer a bit of perspective on a specific issue, I'm game. I tend to favor a more measured approach, so if you're looking for someone to weigh the pros and cons or provide a detailed breakdown of a situation, that's right up my alley. I might hedge a little here and there—because, let's be honest, few things in life are absolute—but I'll always aim to give you something substantial to work with. So, feel free to lay it out for me. What's on your mind?
I honestly don't think there's any real need to go shoving that in here. 😉

The user simply pointed out a blatant violation of the rules, and honestly, she’s well within her rights to demand that some actual consequences be handed out for it. Insulting others... honestly, I feel like we need to talk about this. It seems to be becoming a bit of a trend lately, doesn't it? There’s a certain coarseness creeping into our discussions that I find increasingly difficult to ignore. While I understand that passions run high—especially when we're debating something we truly care about—resorting to personal attacks feels like a massive step backward. It doesn't actually strengthen an argument; if anything, it just makes the person hurling the insult look a little desperate, I suppose. I guess we should aim for a bit more decorum, even when we disagree vehemently. Because, at the end of the day, there’s really no excuse for being disrespectful.

And here we go again. It’s becoming quite a predictable pattern, isn't it? This constant pivoting away from the actual subject matter through these tired insinuations—it feels like the same handful of people trying to pull the exact same stunt over and over. It seems like their primary goal is to drag the conversation down into petty, personal territory just to avoid addressing the real reason this entire discussion was even started in the first place. Insulting behavior.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Insulting others is a violation of the rules and there’s just no excuse for it.

Sure, and practicing medicine without a license is illegal too. So, what do we call it when someone hasn't even stepped foot in medical school, yet they feel entitled to hand out medical advice regarding fatal illnesses? 🙂

Ethan Barrett22 said:Listen, let’s be clear about one thing: being disrespectful or insulting others is a direct violation of the rules here. We need to keep things civil! And honestly, there’s just no excuse for that!

It’s honestly pretty funny—you’re constantly breaking every single rule in the book, from spamming and trolling to off-topic rambling and even ignoring the actual community guidelines, yet now you want to play the victim and claim you're being insulted? Give me a break!

Ethan Barrett22 said:After all, that’s exactly what this forum is here for—to let us all vent, chat, and swap ideas! Look, at the end of the day, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion—as long as you aren't breaking any of the house rules!.

Look, let’s be real here: bringing up those "miraculous healing" testimonials for cancer—especially right after the thread about quack medicine was CLOSED—is a massive, direct violation of the rules. It’s just not okay. And don't even get me started on the spamming of links that get debunked as total fabrications within five minutes, or those smug comments like, "I'll give them enough work so they can stay busy with me." All of that is a blatant breach of our community guidelines... but I guess some people find it pretty hard to look themselves in the mirror and admit it.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, if you find yourself in a disagreement with someone, just remember this: it doesn’t have to be a battle! Honestly, I used to get so worked up about being "right" that I'd practically vibrate with frustration, haha. But lately, I've been trying to take a more relaxed approach. If we don't see eye to eye, it's usually better to just smile, nod, and move on rather than turning a simple difference of opinion into a full-blown drama. Life is way too short to spend all your energy arguing over things that don't actually matter! Just try explaining it to him! If you can! Or just simply... Ignore.But hey, you definitely shouldn't go around insulting him!
Look, I know you already know all of this, but for some reason... You're really trying to justify that, aren't you? You know that one guy who shows up to every single thread on this entire sub, but somehow manages to never make a single point without turning it into a personal attack? Seriously, he hasn't written a single post on this forum that wasn't just a direct insult or an ad hominem jab. It's honestly impressive how he avoids actual arguments!.

Honestly, reading your posts makes it sound like you’re some sort of tragic martyr, a victim being hunted down by "beasts" for reasons only they could understand. But let’s be real here—if I look at your track record across all these different threads, it’s pretty obvious what’s actually going on. You're acting like a total coward, pushing these "big ideas" that you clearly don't have a clue about. You keep dropping links to websites that are obviously fake, filled with nothing but bogus testimonials designed to sell books or just farm clicks so someone can line their pockets. On top of that, you're constantly picking fights with people and trying to organize little harassment campaigns against other forum members through private messages. It's honestly pretty pathetic!
Look, you’ve basically put the whole list—which was made public for everyone to see—on ignore just because you don't have the guts, the know-how, or the actual ability to hold a real debate with anyone! Instead of actually defending your vague claims, you’ve just turned every single topic into a series of trolls and personal attacks, constantly veering off-topic just to dodge having to provide any real evidence. Honestly, there are so many people calling you out now that I bet even you're starting to get lost in the crowd!

If we’re being totally honest here, you don't actually have any real connection to this alternative to the presidential candidate. You don't know them, you aren't practicing their lifestyle, and you certainly aren't studying the details. It honestly feels like you're acting like a classic religious convert—someone who just turns around and starts bashing their old way of life with nothing but negativity. Then, you use that negativity to feed yourself, playing the victim by claiming you're being "targeted" by some big corporate lobby. It's honestly a little pathetic!

Ethan Barrett22 said:This should be enough to prove the point!
And honestly, it’s just all this spreading of panic and trying to scare people off—especially when... Can you actually imagine? What if someone’s posts on a forum actually caused someone to pass away? It sounds like something straight out of a dark psychological thriller or one of those true crime documentaries you binge-watch on Netflix, doesn't it? Just the idea that words typed out on a keyboard could have such a heavy, real-world impact is honestly pretty wild to wrap my head around. I mean, we spend so much time scrolling and typing without a second thought, but when you stop to think about the weight of it all, it gets a little surreal! Those are some pretty massive claims to be making, and... Man, some people really don't hold back when they start throwing around accusations, do they? It’s honestly wild how heavy those lies can feel when they're being hurled at someone. It’s one thing to have a disagreement, but it's a whole different ballgame when people start making up stuff just to tear someone down. It's tough to see, for sure! So, you're wondering what exactly I can tackle? Well, think of me as your go-to conversational partner for just about anything! Whether you need someone to dive deep into a complex topic, brainstorm some wild new ideas, or just have a friendly chat to pass the time, I'm your person. I love getting into the nitty-gritty details—I’m definitely that type of person who enjoys a good, long explanation! I can help you draft emails, polish up some writing, summarize long articles, or even help you wrap your head around tricky concepts. I'm pretty much ready to jump into any conversation you want to start, provided it stays within a reasonable scope. Basically, if you've got a question or a project on your mind, throw it my way! I'll do my absolute best to give you a thoughtful, detailed, and hopefully helpful response. What's on your mind today? Let's get into it!
Honestly, I really don't think there's any need to go shoving that stuff all over this place!

From what I can remember, that entire thread about cancer treatments was shut down specifically because people were trying to give stupid advice that skirted right up to the edge of legality. Honestly, you’re lucky you didn't end up with a visit from the guys in blue! But let's be real—it's probably only a matter of time before you cross that line again. And hey, I'm not being slanderous here, it's just a plain old fact. Once you lose your footing and your head starts spinning, it's easy to wander too close to the edge, and then... well, you know how it goes. 😵

Ethan Barrett22 said:Honestly, she basically just pointed out a blatant violation of the rules, so she’s totally within her rights to ask for some disciplinary action! Insults. Honestly, they just leave a bad taste in your mouth, don't they? It’s such a bummer when things take a turn like that. I’ve always believed that even when we totally disagree—which, let’s face it, happens all the time in these discussions—there's no reason to get personal or nasty. It just ruins the vibe for everyone! I'm a big believer in keeping things civil and respectful, even when the conversation gets heated. Let's try to keep the energy positive and focus on the ideas rather than attacking each other. We can have a great debate without being rude! Because honestly, there's just no excuse for being disrespectful.

Honestly, nobody was being disrespectful toward her. Mark Cruz15 was just asking a direct question, using that signature sarcastic wit he’s known for. If she took that personally, there are really only two ways to look at it: either she actually is that public figure who constantly posts nonsense based on nothing but "street smarts"—meaning she finally got called out—or she’s just playing the victim card to settle an old score with Mark Cruz15 from their previous arguments.
Look, if you feel like you're being insulted here, that’s honestly just down to your own personal grudge against the situation. You're seeing offense where there isn't any because you're taking it personally! People are basically just poking fun at your big ambition to become a moderator—you know, the type who wants to swoop in and "clean up the thread" by getting rid of anyone who doesn't think or write exactly like you do.

Ethan Barrett22 said:And here we go again! It’s the same old story—someone starts veering off on a tangent and throwing out those sneaky little insinuations. Honestly, it’s becoming such a predictable pattern! I’ve seen it happen more than a few times now—this tiny little clique of the exact same people trying everything in their power to derail the conversation by turning it into a bunch of personal attacks! And let’s not even get started on the real reason she actually opened it in the first place! Insulting people? Seriously? That’s just not okay.

Honestly, looking at your recent posts—and honestly, it’s the same story with Gnu—it feels like you two aren't even trying to have a conversation anymore. It’s just constant trolling and those cheap ad hominem attacks against anyone who actually steps up to dismantle the nonsense you're dumping into these threads. Every single time someone tries to point out a fallacy or clear up a mess you've made, you pivot immediately to a personal attack. You don't even address the actual points being made! Instead, you just go after the person behind the screen. It’s become pretty intense, if I’m being real—it's bordering on pathological how obsessed you are with attacking individuals rather than actually debating ideas.

That’s exactly why I’m signing on to every single one of them! Word To urbangull90—you really just laid everything bare, didn't you? You’ve completely exposed the whole story being served up here under the guise of being an "alternative." 👍

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Ethan Barrett22 said:In your previous post, you were singing a different tune— trying to justify insults in an attempt to—in your own view—"combat toxic propaganda."

Insulting others is a violation of the rules and there is simply no excuse for it.
The forum exists specifically for the exchange of ideas and opinions. Everyone has the right to express themselves, provided they don't break the rules.
If you find yourself at odds with someone, try to explain your reasoning if possible or just ignore them. But you cannot resort to insults.
You are well aware of this, yet for some reason, you are attempting to defend a person who hasn't written a single post on this subforum without being abusive or resorting to ad hominem attacks.

On a side note:

You should be able to prove this.
Between spreading panic and fear-mongering, and especially the claim that someone’s forum activity caused someone's death, you are making massive assertions and serious accusations of libel for which you can be held accountable.
I honestly don't see any need to force this into the conversation here. 😉

The female user was simply pointing out a blatant breach of the rules, and she is entirely within her rights to call for sanctions regarding the insults because there is no justification for verbal abuse.

And this constant pivoting and insinuating is a tired tactic I've seen a hundred times before. It's a predictable move by a small handful of individuals who want to derail the discussion into personal vendettas just so everyone forgets the actual reason this thread was started— the insults.

Calling you a malicious charlatan isn't even an insult or libel.
If anyone deserves to be penalized here, it would be you and the other bullies, certainly not those who are merely pointing out the spread of harmful misinformation.

Be careful that someone doesn't take offense and retaliate, because forum anonymity won't protect you from the law. It is a shame the owner lacks the will to appoint a sensible moderator to clean this up and restore order.

Ethan Barrett22 said:You can see for yourself that a handful of the exact same users (just take a look at my ignore list) write every single post on Alternative solely to insult people, use ad hominem attacks, and harass anyone with a different opinion.
Not one of their posts is an exception.

Oh, look at that—actual progress. Before this, they were dragging out theories that it was just one person operating under multiple handles. 😁

By the way, even though I’ve been subjected to some seriously nasty insults—stuff those pseudo-alternative types actually had the nerve to defend, even when they were just accusing me of cloning accounts—I don't recall ever directing an insult at anyone, do I?

Mods, thanks a lot. Even though I was practically begging for moderation on that PDF, I think I'm better off without you. Everything finds its level in the end. 👍

Ethan Brooks59 said:It’s the same old story with you—off-topic rambling, spamming, trolling, breaking the rules, and just being plain stupid. You break every single rule in the book, but now
you’ve put the whole list, which is publicly available, on ignore because you don't have the guts, the brains, or the actual skill to argue with anyone. Instead, you turn every single topic into some troll fest or a personal vendetta, drifting off-topic just so you don't have to defend your half-baked claims. And there are so many of them now

Nobody insulted her. Mark Cruz15 just asked her a direct question, using his usual sarcastic tone.

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Look, this isn't about Mark Cruz15, it's about how things are handled here. That wasn't "sarcastic," it was straight-up insults and slander against another user. If this were any other sub-forum with actual moderators, they would've been sanctioned for verbal abuse immediately... But since the mods here stay silent, I guess nobody cares.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Let's just hope the admins actually take a look at this. 🕺

@Mark Cruz15/">@@Mark Cruz15, look, even if you don't usually act like this, it’s honestly pretty lame to back someone up when they're being insulting just because they don't see eye to eye with you or anyone else. 👎

We all know this forum is supposed to be a place where people can actually swap ideas.
Why is it such a massive deal to you that someone holds a different opinion?

On what planet do you get the right to call someone's perspective sick propaganda while simultaneously cheering on the insults thrown at them?

Maybe someone else feels the exact same way about your takes, but they actually respect the person enough not to start throwing insults around.

As for the admin crew, I honestly doubt they're even going to bother looking at this. ☕ 🕺

Roger Cooper91 said:Oh wow, look at us making progress! Before this, everyone was convinced it was just the same guy posting under a bunch of different usernames.😁

hahaha, you totally missed the detail! If you look closely, his signature separates our little group with a dash—so we’re technically "one entity," and then he lists the rest of us separately after the colon and comma.
Good grief, imagine if his signature wasn't capped at three lines! He'd have enough space to write a whole novel. 😁😁

Since more and more major global tech giants are finally recognizing the sheer danger being spread by anti-vaxxers across the globe, they’ve started purging their content entirely. We're seeing companies pull their funding, while Facebook and Instagram are following suit with bans. It is high time this little forum follows that same path. Pure madness has begun to take hold, and we need to contain it before it spreads further.

GoFundMe is banning anti-vaxxers
Indiegogo is banning anti-vaxxers
Facebook is disabling anti-vax advertisements and making it harder to access information regarding anti-vax misinformation
Instagram has begun banning anti-vax content

Ethan Brooks59 said:Hahaha, you totally missed the point. He separated our couple in his signature with a dash, basically making us "one entity," and then he just lists everyone else after the colon with commas.
Good grief, imagine if his signature wasn't capped at three lines. 😁😁

🤣I didn't actually serve!

But seriously... where's that "local" EXO clone thing again? 🤔

Roger Cooper91 said:🤣 But I wasn't serving!

But seriously... where did that "local" Exo clone guy go? 🤔

I actually spent some time being labeled as someone's clone too, which basically meant I was lumped into his little collection of fake accounts in his signature.

He didn't even try to hide it, bragging about it right there on the Siro food posts, at least until I threatened him with a very public confrontation over at the local courthouse.

And wouldn't you know it, suddenly I've vanished from his usual list, and now I have the distinct honor of being separated by a single comma. 🤣

It’s funny how those higher powers work...

Hahaha, don't even get me started! Technically, you’re right—you’re tucked right there in the signature section behind Jerry White29 and me. So, basically, you're me and I'm you. Haha! 😁

As for that "exotericon" guy, he clearly realized through private messages that we were talking about Rorion, so he got spooked and scrubbed himself from the list and the whole conversation. I honestly get the feeling he's way too obsessed with personalities rather than actually focusing on the topics at hand. That's probably why he posts such random nonsense that has nothing to do with the discussion elsewhere.

Oh man, listening to myself talk sounds absolutely schizophrenic. Here I am, writing as Ethan Brooks59, talking to Lufat Mufat, and then turning around to write to Roger Cooper91!

Now, regarding the thread on alternative medicine and vaccinations—it feels like I’ve split myself into three different people! Maybe I'm just coming down with some spring fever or a seasonal bug. Could be from detoxing, or maybe it's just too much raw food, bacon, and radishes... 😵🤦

A quick off-topic shoutout for Dub: Thanks so much, Dub, for fixing my signature! I couldn't figure out how to shrink the font size myself, so this looks awesome now. THANKS!!! 👍