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Malaysia Grand Prix (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) March 29, 2015

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jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#421 ·
neonfox65 said:Sure, sounds great—except they ended up doing one more pit stop than Sebastian Vettel.

It’s really because Mercedes just eats through tires like crazy—that's the whole reason they put Lewis Hamilton on hards instead of using used mediums. He would have had to pit regardless! An SC could have been their saving grace, as someone else already pointed out, but let's be honest: Ferrari's pace isn't what it was last year. Back then, Mercedes could pull off six pit stops and still breeze past everyone to secure a 1-2 finish without breaking a sweat.

Those worried looks on the faces at Mercedes after the second race... 🤣

Just think back to Australia, when they were all talking up the competition just to make things look better for the public—though, personally, we'd love to see that level of competition!🙂
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#422 ·
Nicole Torres said:Enough already, there is quite enough exaggeration happening here for one lifetime; frankly, it has started to cross the line of good taste

a) This is an absolute sensation of a win!
b) Ferrari is back!
c) Vettel is back!
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#423 ·
I’m seriously considering just walking away from Formula 1 altogether because these races are absolute garbage.

Ps. Someone please wake me up when McLaren actually starts winning again...👋
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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joined Dec 2013
#424 ·
neonfox65 said:I’m seriously considering just walking away from Formula 1 altogether because these races are absolute garbage.

Ps. Someone please wake me up when McLaren actually starts winning again...👋

Sadly, the time trial hasn't been invented yet 😁
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#425 ·
shadowstag10 said:Alright, let's not go overboard here—I already gave props to everyone, including Ferrari and Vettel up above, but you can't just take last season's races and compare them to this one to prove it’s all about the car. It's just not how it works.

Look, let me clarify something right off the bat—maybe Vettel's experience and his "feel" for the machine actually helped shape this thing, sure, but saying this win isn't because of the car? That's just nonsense. I mean, if he wasn't driving it, neither would Kimi, and they'd both be sitting in the same car.

In that absolute mess of a season last year, Vettel wouldn't have won regardless of who you put behind the wheel.

Explanation of Kimi's form from last yearread below 😁

Of course it's down to Sebastian Vettel, Kimi Räikkönen, Maurizio Arrivabene, Alison, and everyone else on the crew...
And honestly, Sebastian Vettel is a huge part of it, because the vibe in the garage finally shifted once he showed up...

It's really Fernando Alonso who bears the brunt of Ferrari's failure. He was incredibly selfish, constantly digging at people and trying to pull them to his side against his own teammates, no matter where they stood...
It's not like Ferrari replaced 1,000 people overnight—maybe 50 top execs left at most—but even those who joined haven't quite found their footing within the team yet...
The main thing is that the team is suddenly breathing as one unit. There's no more "I am the Maestro, there is no other Maestro, I take credit for everything good and blame everyone else for everything bad."

And look, a whole crowd of Ferrari employees is suddenly talking to reporters from NBC, Sky UK, and so on.
When was the last time you saw smiling Ferrari mechanics chatting with American journalists? Back then, only Alonso would talk to them, and I'm telling you, occasionally Stefano or Maurizio Arrivabene might say a word, but it was always just to throw shade at Alonso...

Meanwhile, Arrivabene is acting like a real Team Principal. Even after this win, he isn't sucking up to Sebastian Vettel; instead, he's praising the entire crew and doesn't act like the second driver doesn't exist...
And Sebastian Vettel is acting like a true team player, praising the car and the crew rather than just himself...
There's none of that nonsense like "it's the engine department's fault" or "the tunnel design is bad"... or "the engine department deserves the credit." Suddenly, everyone is credited as a package deal, and everything is mentioned properly.😉
That is the massive difference right there.😳

Every single employee works way harder and adds more value when they actually feel respected and appreciated. That's when they give their absolute maximum...
If someone's hard work and effort are constantly being belittled, they're naturally going to stop giving it their all.☕
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#426 ·
jadeseal7 said:It’s really because Mercedes just eats through tires like crazy—that's the whole reason they put Lewis Hamilton on hards instead of using used mediums. He would have had to pit regardless! An SC could have been their saving grace, as someone else already pointed out, but let's be honest: Ferrari's pace isn't what it was last year. Back then, Mercedes could pull off six pit stops and still breeze past everyone to secure a 1-2 finish without breaking a sweat.

Those worried looks on the faces at Mercedes after the second race... 🤣

Just think back to Australia, when they were all talking up the competition just to make things look better for the public—though, personally, we'd love to see that level of competition!🙂

I’m still thinking about that call from Nico Rosberg to Sebastian Vettel, inviting him over to the Mercedes garage.
No, everything just flipped on its head in only two weeks.

Now he might actually be tempted to go pay a visit to the red garage.
Nicole Torres Nicole Torres Newcomer
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#427 ·
Amanda Kelly said:a) This is an absolute sensation of a win!
b) Ferrari is back!
c) Vettel is back!

I find myself agreeing regarding the sensational nature of the win, though I believe we ought to exercise a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions on those other two points; after all, this is merely a single race. If the performance remains somewhat consistent following China and Bahrain, then perhaps we could begin discussing a genuine comeback, but frankly, no one could convince me that Vettel would have secured this win had Mercedes-Benz not pulled into the pits during the SC.
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#428 ·
Amanda Kelly said:I’m still thinking about that call from Nico Rosberg to Sebastian Vettel, inviting him over to the Mercedes garage.
No, everything just flipped on its head in only two weeks.

Now he might actually be tempted to go pay a visit to the red garage.

🤣

Today, he’s staring at the rear of that red car—just absolutely glued to its bumper—and honestly, he can hardly believe his own eyes! 🤣

I can't help but wonder—is it actually possible that Sebastian Vettel was really hanging out in their garage?
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#429 ·
neonfox65 said:I’m seriously considering just walking away from Formula 1 altogether because these races are absolute garbage.

Ps. Someone please wake me up when McLaren actually starts winning again...👋

And honestly, isn't that a bit much to say!?
Wasn't today's race actually tense? Wasn't there enough excitement both at the front of the pack and fighting for third?

You're on the wrong forum. Go find some dedicated McLaren fan page.
Though, good luck finding one that actually works, since right now it feels like a funeral in the UK.
shadowstag10 shadowstag10 Active Member
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#430 ·
stormybadger8 said:Explanation of Kimi's form from last yearread below 😁

Of course it's down to Sebastian Vettel, Kimi Räikkönen, Maurizio Arrivabene, Alison, and everyone else on the crew...
And honestly, Sebastian Vettel is a huge part of it, because the vibe in the garage finally shifted once he showed up...

It's really Fernando Alonso who bears the brunt of Ferrari's failure. He was incredibly selfish, constantly digging at people and trying to pull them to his side against his own teammates, no matter where they stood...
It's not like Ferrari replaced 1,000 people overnight—maybe 50 top execs left at most—but even those who joined haven't quite found their footing within the team yet...
The main thing is that the team is suddenly breathing as one unit. There's no more "I am the Maestro, there is no other Maestro, I take credit for everything good and blame everyone else for everything bad."

And look, a whole crowd of Ferrari employees is suddenly talking to reporters from NBC, Sky UK, and so on.
When was the last time you saw smiling Ferrari mechanics chatting with American journalists? Back then, only Alonso would talk to them, and I'm telling you, occasionally Stefano or Maurizio Arrivabene might say a word, but it was always just to throw shade at Alonso...

Meanwhile, Arrivabene is acting like a real Team Principal. Even after this win, he isn't sucking up to Sebastian Vettel; instead, he's praising the entire crew and doesn't act like the second driver doesn't exist...
And Sebastian Vettel is acting like a true team player, praising the car and the crew rather than just himself...
There's none of that nonsense like "it's the engine department's fault" or "the tunnel design is bad"... or "the engine department deserves the credit." Suddenly, everyone is credited as a package deal, and everything is mentioned properly.😉
That is the massive difference right there.😳

Every single employee works way harder and adds more value when they actually feel respected and appreciated. That's when they give their absolute maximum...
If someone's hard work and effort are constantly being belittled, they're naturally going to stop giving it their all.☕

🤣🤣
man, if you actually wrote it like this the first time, I’d give you a thumbs up👍 (and I mean the actual content, not just the trolling) 🙂
Amanda Kelly said:I’m still thinking about that call from Nico Rosberg to Sebastian Vettel, inviting him over to the Mercedes garage.
No, everything just flipped on its head in only two weeks.

Now he might actually be tempted to go pay a visit to the red garage.

Honestly, it's high time Vettel hits him back on Twitter right when Ferrari is having their team briefing 👏
silentbadger17 silentbadger17 Newcomer
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#431 ·
Amanda Kelly said:a) This is an absolute sensation of a win!
b) Ferrari is back!
c) Vettel is back!

So this person is basically telling me 👍
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#432 ·
Even in Australia, it looked like they made massive strides, though the gap was pretty much unrealistic 😉

But today's race revealed two huge new things...
Ferrari has nailed the cooling on this car—way better than Mercedes—so any high-temp races are going to be dangerous.
Ferrari is being incredibly gentle on the tires and works beautifully on mediums, which is most likely thanks to Alison... it’s not a coincidence that Lotus used to be the king of tire management not too long ago...

The big question is how they'll fare in cold races and if they can stay close there too 🤷

What surprises me most isn't even that Ferrari beat Mercedes; it's how much they absolutely crushed Williams and Red Bull...
Because honestly, I didn't think it was possible for Red Bull to lap anyone, let alone for someone at the back of the pack to fight their way to the front by slicing right through both Williams cars during the race 😳
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#433 ·
neonfox65 said:I’m seriously considering just walking away from Formula 1 altogether because these races are absolute garbage.

Ps. Someone please wake me up when McLaren actually starts winning again...👋

Beep, beep, did Sebastian Vettel suddenly learn how to drive, or did maybe Fernando Alonso just forget how?😒 Sebastian Vettel is in a solid team on a track that really suits Ferrari—he even mentioned that three days ago, and Kimi agreed. As the best driver on the grid, he took the win without any issues. He is the best Formula 1 driver these days... No doubt...:klap:
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#434 ·
Nicole Torres said:I find myself agreeing regarding the sensational nature of the win, though I believe we ought to exercise a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions on those other two points; after all, this is merely a single race. If the performance remains somewhat consistent following China and Bahrain, then perhaps we could begin discussing a genuine comeback, but frankly, no one could convince me that Vettel would have secured this win had Mercedes-Benz not pulled into the pits during the SC.

One race, but it mattered.
A real track with actual racing conditions.
That's the kind of environment we can expect for at least half the races this season.

Nicole Torres said:I find myself agreeing regarding the sensational nature of the win, though I believe we ought to exercise a bit of patience before jumping to conclusions on those other two points; after all, this is merely a single race. If the performance remains somewhat consistent following China and Bahrain, then perhaps we could begin discussing a genuine comeback, but frankly, no one could convince me that Vettel would have secured this win had Mercedes-Benz not pulled into the pits during the SC.

And you don't have to. You've got your opinion.
I don't think anyone actually expected a Vettel win, but when I saw Mercedes in the pits during the SC while Vettel and the others stayed out, I thought, "There it is." I was certain.
With every lap that passed, I became more convinced it was going to be an SV victory.
The start of the race told us everything we needed to know.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#435 ·
shadowstag10 said:🤣🤣
man, if you actually wrote it like this the first time, I’d give you a thumbs up👍 (and I mean the actual content, not just the trolling) 🙂

Honestly, it's high time Vettel hits him back on Twitter right when Ferrari is having their team briefing 👏

Who said it was a joke? 😬
Did you see me knowing everything back in September last year? These are some serious "insider tips" right here. 🤣
There’s nothing funny about it. 😬 🤣
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#436 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:Beep, beep, did Sebastian Vettel suddenly learn how to drive, or did maybe Fernando Alonso just forget how?😒 Sebastian Vettel is in a solid team on a track that really suits Ferrari—he even mentioned that three days ago, and Kimi agreed. As the best driver on the grid, he took the win without any issues. He is the best Formula 1 driver these days... No doubt...:klap:

Then explain to me how he got absolutely smoked by Ricardo in the exact same car last year... 👋>
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#437 ·
Amanda Kelly said:Car + driver + pit wall = Success.

At Mercedes, neither the driver nor the pit crew really mattered last year.
Now, we've finally reached the point where all three have to actually sweat and sync up if they want to win a race.
At least, that's how it looks to me after this turning point of a race (because it really is one).
After Malaysia 2015, things look drastically different than they did before.

As for what happens next? Who knows. We'll just have to wait and see.

Amanda Kelly in the center 👍
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#438 ·
It is quite unfortunate that we were only granted three laps, as it simply wasn't enough time to reach any definitive conclusions, yet even within those brief initial three laps, it was clear that Lewis couldn't manage to pull away from Sebastian Vettel.
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#439 ·
neonfox65 said:Then explain to me how he got absolutely smoked by Ricardo in the exact same car last year... 👋>

He had more mechanical failures, which was the main issue, and honestly, the car just didn't suit his driving style. Comparing a four-time consecutive world champion to a rookie driver is just... well, it’s misplaced and frankly a bit silly. Without Michael Schumacher around, Formula 1 is only worth watching because of Sebastian Vettel. He proved once again today that he's the greatest. In those head-to-head battles, he absolutely smoked them.👋
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#440 ·
neonfox65 said:The absolute dumbest argument out there is the idea that a driver is the one actually developing the car🤣🤣🤣

That’s probably why he’s your favorite idiot in this whole mess...😁
Honestly, just looking back at how much some teams fell apart right after he left, everything becomes pretty obvious.

I really want to see if some random rookie can actually jump into his seat at McLaren and start grabbing podiums and wins in their very first season.😁

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