Anthropoid (2016) Movie Discussion

Bryan Rogers87 said:You’ve got the whole situation wrong. There isn't any secret British masonry at play here. This assassination was primarily the work of the resistance movement. They're only being trained in the United Kingdom because the government-in-exile set up shop there.

Your perspective is totally skewed. Are you really suggesting that America is to blame for the destruction of Memphis and its civilian casualties just because they didn't surrender the city? As if there wouldn't have been victims otherwise? 🤦

You end up reading all sorts of nonsense when history is interpreted like this. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Germans were committing crimes in Czechoslovakia long before that assassination took place. You don't really think he earned the nickname "Prague butcher" just because he worked at a meat market, do you?

The idea that someone should be held liable for war crimes just because they were defending themselves—or because they went out to hunt down actual war criminals—is honestly pretty ridiculous, if you ask me. It feels like a slap in the face to us all. What, were we supposed to roll out the red carpet for the bad guys?

The government in exile over in the United Kingdom was just as independent as the US is today. Or was it?

They just did whatever the British Masons told them to. It was all a cinematic pamphlet meant to clear their consciences after a totally useless assassination—one that changed absolutely nothing except sending countless innocent civilians straight to their graves.

Nothing else to say.

silentgardener21 said:The government-in-exile over in London was just as "independent" as the American government is today.

They were basically just puppets dancing to whatever tune the British elites played for them. It was all just a massive PR stunt to clear their consciences after some totally pointless assassination attempt—one that didn't change a single thing except sending a bunch of innocent people straight to the grave.

Nothing else to it.

Look, I tried giving you some actual comparisons, but clearly you’re just ignoring them. ☕

Trying to force modern obsessions and conspiracy theories onto historical events is just plain stupid.

Yeah, sure, it’s totally the fault of whoever provoked the war criminals, rather than the actual war criminals doing the killing.🤦

Honestly, man, you're talking complete nonsense.

Bryan Rogers87 said:I tried giving you some comparisons, but it looks like you aren't really listening.☕

Trying to force modern obsessions and theories onto historical events is just plain foolish.

So, it's the person who provoked the war criminals who's at fault, rather than the ones actually committing the crimes?🤦

Sorry, but what you're saying makes absolutely no sense.

You're just writing polemics that lack common sense and throwing out empty cliches.

And you haven't refuted my point once.

If the assassination hadn't happened, everything would have stayed exactly the same anyway. The success of the hit depended on certain Czech extremists, and if they hadn't acted, nothing would have changed. A massacre occurred regardless, and there was no need to provoke it. Besides, someone else just stepped into Heydrich's shoes and carried on the exact same policy. So, it was all for nothing in terms of making things better. But I guess innocent victims don't count, right?

You just can't wrap your head around that, which is why you're hitting the ignore button.

silentgardener21 said:you're just cranking out these little manifestos that make zero sense and throwing around empty clichés.

And you haven't debunked a single thing I've said.

Even if that assassination hadn't happened, everything would have played out exactly the same way. The hit was made possible because some people in Czechoslovakia turned traitor. It was basically a massacre of their own kind. And when one guy gets taken out, someone else just steps up to keep his exact same policy running.

You clearly can't wrap your head around that, which is why you're on my ignore list.

Good grief, do you even have a clue what Hitler actually had planned for Czechoslovakia? First off, it was supposed to be a nation of slaves, pure and simple—just a labor pool to feed the industries Germany desperately needed. According to the blueprints, once the war ended in a massive victory for Germany and they established the Third Reich to last a thousand years, the Czech and Slovak populations were slated to either be wiped out or kicked out entirely to make room for Germans moving into their "living space."

Man, your take on history is honestly painful to read.

Setting aside whether there was some British Masonic conspiracy at play, the Czechoslovak government-in-exile just wanted to prove that the resistance could pull something big off and show they could actually fight for their country. Everything that followed just proved they were right to do it.

A butcher is one thing, but a soldier is a soldier. A civilian is a civilian. Taking out soldiers isn't an excuse to commit war crimes, and anyone fighting by killing enemy soldiers shouldn't be blamed for the atrocities committed by SS officers.

Bryan Rogers87 said:Unfortunately, it didn't really work as a good movie. It isn't anything terribly bad—just mediocre—but overall it leaves you feeling cold; you just can't connect with any of the characters. They tried to pull it off by focusing almost entirely on the two leads and their internal doubts, but it’s hollow, uninteresting, and ultimately fails. In that focus on the protagonists, everything else just gets pushed aside.

Technically, it seems fine. It's clear enough, though some historical facts were invented, some omitted, and others changed; most serve the plot, but I don't see why some had to be made up just for the sake of the film. Other parts were cut entirely despite being crucial to the events shown.

A shame.... Just middle-of-the-road.

The movie is OK but the original left a better impression on me

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075019/?ref_=tt_trv_trv

Actually, this remake was unnecessary...

for example,



and I found the ending to be much more dramatically powerful

Walter Lopez84 said:The movie's alright but honestly, the original hit way harder for me

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075019/?ref_=tt_trv_trv

truth is, this remake was totally unnecessary...

like, for example

plus, the ending of the original had way more dramatic punch

Haven't seen it yet, but I definitely will. Right off the bat, I don't get why they felt the need to change the operation's name....

It’s a solid movie about a topic that hasn't been totally chewed up by Hollywood yet. Though, I guess Dawn was better. It felt more convincing.

It was about time we got a Western take on WW2 that wasn't just centered on the Pacific Ocean or Normandy.

The subject matter itself is pretty controversial even over in the Czech Republic. Some folks think killing that one demon was justified, while others say it was unnecessary. I doubt there'll ever be a consensus. Americans owe a lot to the Britons for dealing with Reinhard Heydrich. Those bastards betrayed them, just like they did the Polish people a year later.