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Let's go ISIS, get that fire started!

Go ISIS, light it up.

If this isn't the most blatant, crystal-clear incitement to violence imaginable, then I honestly have no clue what is.

Subject: We all hate the mess
Time: Yesterday at 7:25 PM.

So, BEFORE they shut this thread down—a thread where apparently there was "no hate speech" or "incitement to violence"—Ryan Vaughn7 actually called me a liar for pointing out that there was absolutely both happening in here.

I’ll say it again: Let's go ISIS, light it up.

Post status: Unpunished, of course.

And then *I'm* the one lying???

After seeing this, I’m expecting a public apology from Ryan Vaughn7, who had the nerve to accuse me of lying when I pointed out that this thread was full of unsanctioned incitement to violence.

No hate speech, huh?? No incitement to violence??

You're lying, Ryan Vaughn7—lying sneakily and shamelessly.
And then you turn around and accuse me of being the liar? It's shameful. Seriously, just pathetic. But hey, Nothing unexpected there.

Let's keep this rolling...

They’re playing incredible—they’re going to be the top favorites for the whole tournament

Nothing, we need to get out of these hellholes; shutting this down is the only way to go.

Topic: To everyone hating on the thread—the one people claim is "pure," while I'm just some liar claiming they actually tolerate calls for violence

Time: Yesterday at 6:52 PM

I'll say it again: Nothing, we need to get out of these hellholes; shutting this down is the only way to go.

EXPLICIT INCITEMENT AND PROMOTING VIOLENCE.
(And maybe even info that would interest our local police department?)

You're lying, Ryan Vaughn7—I just totally exposed you in front of everyone! You're full of it, acting all high and mighty when you claimed there wasn't any violence being encouraged in that thread.

Maybe their other point or some separate post they made is totally fine—in which case, there isn't really an issue🤣

Joseph Stewart38 said:Go ISIS, keep spreading that nonsense.

If this isn't the most blatant incitement to violence imaginable, then I honestly have no clue what is.

🤦
The guy was clearly joking; he even used an Emoticon so there wouldn't be any confusion.
And since I'm widely known as someone who advocates for violence, I really don't have the energy to waste Time on this nonsense. Goodbye, John, you little liar.

But wait, there’s more... dear viewers, I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet:

Some happy little guy says:

Halftime at the 60th minute

Then this other clown jumps in to reply:

Got any info? God willing.

We're talking explicit calls for violence here—and maybe even possession of info that would actually interest the FBI.

The topic? Oh, it's still just that "all us haters of the coach" thread where there's supposedly zero incitement to violence, and apparently, I'm just some big fat liar making it all up in my head.

Current status: of course, totally unpunished. What else should I expect?

So, dear viewers, who's the liar here?

Is it me—the guy who insisted that the "all us haters of the coach" thread was full of blatant hate speech and calls for violence, and then proceeded to show EXPLICIT PROOF right here?

Or is it

Ryan Vaughn7, the moderator, who claims I'm just hallucinating the whole thing?

I'm done. I won't say anything more—you guys be the judge... though maybe the other super-mods want to weigh in and point out which specific word caused the problem?

Ryan Vaughn7 said:🤦
The guy is clearly joking—he even threw in an Emoticon just so there wouldn't be any confusion.
And since I’m apparently famous for being some kind of violent maniac, I honestly don't have the energy to waste Time on this nonsense anymore. Whatever, bye John, you little liar.

So, can I just yell "Go kill all the Mexicans!" and then slap an Emoticon at the end, and suddenly it's all just a big joke? I guess an Emoticon just wipes out everything else you wrote, right? 😂

It is actually mind-blowing how much nerve some people have—trying to make excuses after I caught you red-handed in a lie and laid out the explicit proof of how much you were inciting violence on this topic.

Oh, listen to him! "I used an Emoticon, so it's fine now..." 🤦

David Lopez97 said:Maybe their other point was fine, or maybe the rest of the post was totally okay, so then there's no issue.🤣

The double standards here are just unreal.

I mean, look—when I get flagged, nobody gives a damn about the "other part of my post." They don't care if the rest of my message was perfectly civil; they just zero in on one tiny, specific snippet that they find problematic and slap me with a penalty based solely on that.

But the second someone else is involved? Suddenly, if the "rest of the post" is decent, then everything is fine!

Good grief, talk about a massive double standard.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:🤦
The guy is clearly joking—he even threw in an Emoticon just so there wouldn't be any confusion.
And since I’m apparently "widely known" as some kind of violent extremist, I really don't have the energy to waste Time on this nonsense anymore. See ya, John—you little liar.

Seriously, stop acting like you're too innocent to get it, okay? Especially when you talk exactly like this on here yourself.
Or at least stop treating the rest of us like idiots with those tired lines about how "he was just kidding," the "Emoticon proves it," and all that other garbage.

Thanks, and catch you later.😁

Joseph Stewart38 said:Topic: everyone who hates the mob
Time: today 2:26 PM

Comparing a "mob justice against hooligans" situation to Misappropriation, a convicted murderer and rapist
Status: unconvicted

The only person who would actually try to frame this within the context of Misappropriation is, well, a total psychopath or someone who’s just genuinely sick in the head, if you ask me.

But hey, of course not, I'm probably just making all of this up in my own head.

I'm lying, right?

Anyway, moving on...

So, you basically just called me a psychopath and a sicko.
That’s actually a violation of the rules, and honestly, it's against US law too.

1. You're unconsciously doing the exact thing you're accusing everyone else of in this thread. You're basically endorsing and shielding violence—specifically when people are threatening those hooligans with the worst kind of physical harm.

2. I never once encouraged anyone to cause trouble, so you just cherry-picked a post that had nothing to do with that just to try and prove to the moderator that someone else was inciting chaos.🙏

3. You completely missed the point of what I wrote. I wasn't comparing this mobbing to what Misappropriation did. Maybe try reading my post again, and you might actually get what I was trying to say.

That cow has gone completely insane.
I wouldn't touch a steak from her even if someone handed it to me on a silver platter.
A bullet to the head.
New cow.

Just a bullet to the head and boom...

He’s talking about Mommy, right?

But I guess that’s fine—you can hate him all you want and call for violence against him without anyone blinking an eye.

Seriously, look at this thread—it's basically a goldmine of hate speech. If the FBI actually did their job, they'd have enough material here to keep them busy for months, yet some people will still sit there and deny everything I just said. But they can't deny it, because everything is laid out right here in plain English—it's explicit, it's black and white. I'm just sitting here waiting to see what kind of ridiculous new excuse they'll cook up to justify it all next.

frozenpuma69 said:You just called me a psychopath and a sicko.
That's also a violation of the rules and US law.

1. You are unconsciously doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of doing in this thread. You are supporting and shielding violence—specifically, the lynching of hooligans who are being threatened with extreme physical harm.

2. I never once encouraged causing trouble, so you cherry-picked a post that had nothing to do with that just to prove to the moderator that someone else was inciting disorder.🙏

3. You completely missed the point of my post. I didn't compare this lynching to the Misappropriation. Read my post again; maybe then you'll understand what I meant.

Just ignore him... because it seems there isn't a God out there who can explain anything to this user in a way he'd actually accept. And honestly, it looks like he never even bothers to read other people's posts during a debate, or realizes you have to look at the whole context, the main point, and even the tone of the discussion or subforum, etc., etc.

Plus, if I've read the posts here correctly, he's already reached out to another super-moderator with a complaint—probably via PM—about the exact same thing he's been writing about here for days.

Unprecedented... and I'd say, extremely so. A bit scary.

And let's not forget the core issue from the start— under the guise of criticizing hooligans during the FIFA World Cup 2014 match against the Czech Republic, he's basically just settling scores with other users across different threads. He's actually targeting them, isn't he?. And he does it constantly.

Maybe a permanent ban or a partial one? I don't know... I'm not making the call, but if other users need it, then I guess they should get it.

You completely missed the point of my post. I didn't compare this lynching to the Misappropriation. Read my post again; maybe then you'll understand what I meant.

And not just your post. Like I thought—it seems he doesn't always catch those subtle threads of communication in a debate, which are perfectly clear to everyone else.

So, let me try to wrap this whole mess up into one single post...

Up until now, we’ve dealt with: people taking off their hats just to throw flares and force game delays, comparisons to blatant Misappropriation, ISIS, blowing up torches, literal calls for violent riots at the stadium, even a bullet to the head...

But apparently, none of that counts as violence—not at all! No way—it's all just "context," right? The guy was "just joking," he even threw an Emoticon at the end of his post to prove it...

But here is the kicker—the absolute most important part—NOTHING OF ANY OF THAT HAS BEEN PUNISHED.

The moderators have been hovering over this entire thread the whole time, just gliding right past those posts like they don't even exist—which basically means they were silently approving them. Honestly, it’s worse than that, because we can see them actually coming up with excuses for them still... but hey, whatever, I guess that's on their souls.

Joseph Stewart38 said:..but fine, they'll have to answer to God for that eventually.

You aren't exactly innocent in this whole situation either... so yeah.

You were actually going after the community members by flame-warring over their topics.
(All while hiding behind the guise of "criticizing the hooligans at the stadium")

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Susan Price30 said:I mean, just ignore him... because it seems like there isn't any God he can appeal to who would actually make sense to this user, if an explanation could even be accepted at this point. And honestly, it looks like he doesn't even bother reading other people's posts during a debate, or trying to look at the whole context; he just fixates on one tiny point and ignores the tone of the conversation or the subforum entirely, I guess.

Plus, if I'm reading these threads correctly, he’s already reached out to some other super-mod via DM about the exact same thing he’s been whining about here for days.

It's unheard of... and honestly, I'd say it's pretty extreme. A bit scary, really.

And we shouldn't forget his original angle— by pretending to criticize hooligans at the FIFA World Cup 2014 match against the Czech Republic, he's basically just picking fights with other users across different threads. He's essentially confronting them, you know? And he does it constantly.

As for a permanent or partial ban, maybe? I don't know... I'm not really the one making those calls, but if the other users need it, then I suppose they do.

And it's not just your post. Like I thought—it seems like he just misses all those subtle nuances in communication during discussions that are, you know, perfectly obvious to everyone else.

Yeah, I see it.
Even after I tried explaining things to him, he just keeps doing his own thing.
Nothing to be done, I guess; just let him have his fun.☕

Susan Price30 said:you aren't exactly innocent in this whole thing either... so yeah.

You were basically just attacking forum users and flame-warring them over everything.

(not to mention their posts are actually fun, while yours are just exhausting and boring) ☕
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Honestly, I have no clue what your actual goal is here—it feels like you’re exclusively targeting me, which, if I recall correctly, is totally against the rules on this forum.

Look, I'm out here providing evidence to back up my points and sticking strictly to the topic of "junk," but you? You’re just obsessing over me. You spend your entire time dissecting my posts and my opinions as if the subject was *me*, when it isn't! This thread isn't about my life or my writing style—that's just something you've decided to make up on your own.

I am not engaging with you, so please, for the love of God, stop focusing on me. I haven't mentioned you once in this thread or any other one, so I really don't get why you're so fixated on me and how I write. Especially not in this thread, because it definitely wasn't made for this kind of personal drama.

If you're seriously that obsessed with me, then go ahead—start your own thread where you can talk about me all you want. If I'm such a huge fixation for you, just go do it there.

Joseph Stewart38 said:I honestly can't figure out what your goal is here, since you seem solely focused on attacking me...

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It isn't about you; it's about your posts. That makes you a liar right from the very first post in this thread.

Is that clear enough? Now, please just scroll away and go lie or fantasize about things that don't exist somewhere else. ☕

(So you've been lying since the beginning, which is why people are calling you out... and whenever you do it, someone is going to comment.)

Well, essentially, a wave of hooliganism from some unruly crowd has caused absolute chaos across the forum threads. The moderators and supermoderators are doing everything within their power to de-escalate the tension and try to get things back under control. For now, at least.