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Gregory Gonzalez8 Gregory Gonzalez8 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·

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Attraction
Attraction


This movie Steven Spielberg is doing, which you might already be familiar with from his work on the Battle of Stalingrad.

People over in Russia are seriously hyped for this one. It’s slated for release in January 2017. I honestly have no clue if it’ll even make it to theaters here in the States, though.

From what I can gather so far, the whole thing is pretty straightforward
Basically, right after some UFO crashes into Moscow
all hell breaks loose—it’s total war.

amberviper30 amberviper30 Newcomer
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#2 ·
It seems quite fascinating, though I suppose if I’m being honest, I don't think we've really seen any major films from Russia in our theaters since the 90s. I mean, I can't say for certain, as my memory isn't perfect, but I truly don't recall a single one ever playing locally.

It honestly looks absolutely wonderful.
Gregory Gonzalez8 Gregory Gonzalez8 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Really? It sounds kind of weird... almost like some Cold War era vibe to me...
I mean, since we’re constantly being flooded with movies from the US, why can't we get more variety from other countries for once?
It’s like the government just doesn't give a damn about fostering a powerhouse domestic film industry or anything...
Honestly, this whole discussion is becoming way more interesting than the actual movie itself...
Brenda Johnson65 Brenda Johnson65 Member
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#4 ·
This whole thing reminds me painfully of Battleship, the Battle for LA, and that entire vein of Hollywood bullshit that treats the sci-fi genre with utter contempt. It feels like a textbook case of Bayev-style action, which, frankly, is never a particularly promising sign.
amberviper30 amberviper30 Newcomer
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Gregory Gonzalez8 said:I find myself wondering, perhaps quite frequently, why it seems as though we are constantly being inundated with nothing but films produced in the USA, and I can't help but feel a certain curiosity regarding why we don't see a more diverse influx of cinema from other nations more regularly. It’s a bit of a puzzling thought, I suppose, because while the American industry is certainly massive and dominant, one might think that the global landscape would offer a bit more variety in what actually makes its way to our screens. Maybe it's just the way the distribution networks are set up, or perhaps there's some other complex reason behind it, but I truly do feel like we are missing out on so much incredible storytelling from abroad.

David Richardson67 said:It strikes me as being just another one of those typical Bayev stunts, which, if I’m being honest, doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in the outcome.

It seems to me that, as a society, we have become almost entirely fixated on American productions, which inevitably leads to this pattern where we measure everything else against the US standard—as if every single film must mimic an American blockbuster just to be considered worth our time. I suppose I’m speaking quite broadly here, based on my own observations of the people around me, though I certainly recognize that there is a certain segment of Americans who wouldn't necessarily subscribe to this specific generalization, of course.
I remember this one time when I suggested to my group of friends that we should all head over to Central Park to catch a few European films, just to experience something different, I suppose. Honestly, the response I got was pretty blunt; they were basically like, "Why on earth would you want to sit through that Hollywood bullshit?"

I suppose I can’t quite put my finger on it, but this film strikes me as genuinely intriguing, both from a visual standpoint and in its underlying concept. Personally, I’ve always been quite fond of stepping outside my comfort zone to try something new, so I really don't have any inherent prejudice against foreign productions—in this specific instance, even those coming out of Russia. However, if I’m being honest, I find myself doubting whether a project like this will ever actually make it to our shores, and even if it does manage to get a release, I suspect it might struggle to find an audience here. It reminds me of how NBC used to broadcast those classic Russian films; I remember people from all over the region expressing such genuine admiration for how high-quality that "Third" cultural programming was on NBC, but then, well, it just vanished. It’s quite disheartening, really. Meanwhile, you had certain individuals on various forums complaining that it was nothing more than communist propaganda, even when they were broadcasting something like Hamlet—which, let’s be clear, was a Russian production. Honestly, if you take a moment to look at the Facebook comment sections under various news articles, there are times when I truly find it hard to believe I even live in this country. Sometimes I am just completely blindsided by the sheer intensity of the views held by my own friends and neighbors; there is often this sudden, inexplicable outburst of hatred and intolerance directed toward topics that are entirely innocent. I mean, just look at the vitriol people spew over something as trivial as the quality of steel manufacturing—it's truly startling.

I found myself somewhat unsettled by that one specific exchange in the trailer—it really stuck with me, I suppose—where they ask, "So, you've arrived from another galaxy?" only to be met with the response, "No, we've come from Cherdanov!" It just felt strangely jarring, if you know what I mean.
Brenda Johnson65 Brenda Johnson65 Member
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amberviper30 said:Precisely. As a society, we have become so hyper-fixated on US productions that we use them as the sole yardstick for everything else; if it doesn't mimic an American blockbuster, people decide it isn't "worth watching." I’m speaking generally based on my own observations of those around me, though I recognize that certain individuals in America might not fit this sweeping generalization.
I once suggested to a group of friends that we head over to Central Park to catch some European films. The response was essentially: "Why would we bother watching that garbage?"

Personally, I find this film intriguing, both visually and conceptually. I enjoy exploring new territory, so I certainly don't mind foreign productions—in this specific instance, a Russian production. However, I am skeptical that this will ever actually reach our shores, and even if it does, it likely won't find much success. There was a time when NBC used to air Russian classics, and people from neighboring countries would actually marvel at how NBC maintained such high-quality cultural programming on its Third network. But then, it vanished. While certain individuals on various forums were busy whining that it was all communist propaganda, they were simultaneously watching a Russian production of Hamlet. If you look at the Facebook comments on various news articles, there are moments where I truly struggle to believe I live in this country; I am frequently blindsided by the views held by my own friends and neighbors. It can be quite jarring to witness such outbursts of hatred and intolerance over entirely innocent topics—say, the quality of steel, just to use a caricature of an example.

One particular line in this trailer really grated on my nerves: "-You've come from another galaxy? - No, we've come from Cherdanov!"

It isn't my contention that the film will be poor simply because it is Russian, rather that it seems to blatantly copy American templates. It fails to offer a fresh narrative or a unique concept. Since the hype focuses almost exclusively on action, I see zero innovation—though, admittedly, I realize how difficult that is to find these days....

Fine, they crash a UFO and then we get a city battle (very Transformers-esque)... it's all been chewed over before... at least in my opinion.
lonehound2 lonehound2 Member
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#7 ·
I can't wait to catch this. Honestly, the CGI looks better than what you see in about 75% of American movies. It feels like Russia is gearing up for a serious cinematic showdown against Hollywood bullshit.
Gregory Gonzalez8 Gregory Gonzalez8 NewcomerOP
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#8 ·
I think the premiere in Russia is coming up in about ten days. So... if anyone happens to find themselves over there 🙂
What are the odds we actually get this movie screened here in the States?
briskeagle3 briskeagle3 Active Member
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David Richardson67 said:I’m not saying the movie will be bad just because it’s Russian—it’s more that it feels like such an obvious rip-off of American tropes. It doesn't offer a fresh story or a new angle. Plus, since the trailer focuses entirely on action, I don't see much innovation (yeah, I know, that's asking a lot these days)....

So, they take down a UFO and then we get urban warfare—basically Transformers style—which feels pretty played out... at least to me.

I don't carry those kinds of biases.... Seriously.... Band of Brothers.... man, that series was incredible.... it's one of the few things you really have to give NBC credit for..... thanks to them, I've watched tons of top-tier films that aren't even American....

It's about time we saw some Special Forces taking on aliens....🙂
Lisa Patel4 Lisa Patel4 Active Member
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#10 ·
We haven't really seen a massive influx of high-quality Russian films in American theaters, so I doubt this one will be any different. Even if it is an SF movie made with a Western formula.
electricharbor43 electricharbor43 Newcomer
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#11 ·
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amberviper30 said:.....

Not sure why you're coming at Brenda Johnson65. I felt that same vibe from the trailer—just another American story being copied with way too much action and zero substance. But whatever, a trailer isn't the whole movie. Honestly, I liked the trailer for that Russian film "Coma" way more. It actually had some soul and mystery to it.
electricharbor43 electricharbor43 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Kenneth Clark18 said:The good Russian flicks never made it to American theaters, and this probably won't either. Even if it follows a Western sci-fi formula.

Alright, name one decent Russian sci-fi movie from the last few years. If you can actually find one, maybe I'll give it a shot.

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