#74 ·
Drew Bennett68 said:That just plain hurts.
The second you reacted to that fastest lap data, it became obvious who's actually feeling the sting. 😉
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São Paulo Grand Prix (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) | November 12-14, 2021
São Paulo Grand Prix (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) | November 12-14, 2021
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The second you reacted to that fastest lap data, it became obvious who's actually feeling the sting. 😉
#74 ·
Honestly, you’d never guess that Brazil was supposed to be his home turf. They were all over those little flags and acting like they were at a Senna memorial service—it was a bit much.
As for the squeeze, Max was clearly in front, so the other guy just had to move. It felt like a way to punish Hamilton for pushing Perez toward the pit lane—and they were already level, which makes it even worse.
Also, did anyone else catch that sketchy Williams pit entry happening right when Verstappen pulled in? It’s giving me serious 2019 Brazil vibes.
As for the squeeze, Max was clearly in front, so the other guy just had to move. It felt like a way to punish Hamilton for pushing Perez toward the pit lane—and they were already level, which makes it even worse.
Also, did anyone else catch that sketchy Williams pit entry happening right when Verstappen pulled in? It’s giving me serious 2019 Brazil vibes.
#75 ·
Just an hour before the start of qualifying, the Red Bull Racing technical staff entered the office with a massive amount of data and video footage regarding the Mercedes rear wing.
Is this how they plan to grab the headlines? Seriously?
Is this how they plan to grab the headlines? Seriously?
#75 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Without Slim's cash, Perez would be driving the Red Bull car only on PlayStation this season.
It’s pretty obvious, isn't it? Red Bull is looking a little thin on cash lately.
#75 ·
Rebecca Parker said:I’m just hoping that at the next race, Lewis gives Max some payback for that shove. Then we can finally sit back and listen to Horner claim everything was totally fine or just another "racing incident"... you know, like how he was acting after the race today? 🙂
Hamilton isn't even in a position to retaliate against Max because he's trailing too far behind in the standings. That explains why he was playing defense today, trying to stay clear of Max, who seemed to catch him with a bit of a nudge after missing a turn.
Unlike Hamilton, Max can afford to go all-in. He has nothing to lose, other than perhaps his current lead.
Max does have one weakness, though. He got lucky in that opening duel with Bottas simply because Bottas had nothing to gain either. I’m not entirely convinced that kind of reckless attitude toward someone like Bottas will serve him well; over the next three races, Bottas might just decide to say no.
#76 ·
Jacob Castillo70 said:Just an hour before the start of qualifying, the Red Bull Racing technical staff entered the office with a massive amount of data and video footage regarding the Mercedes rear wing.
Is this how they plan to grab the headlines? Seriously?
Let us not delude ourselves into believing the outcome would have been any different had Mercedes discovered irregularities within the Red Bull Racing car.
#76 ·
Drew Bennett68 said:It’s pretty obvious, isn't it? Red Bull is looking a little thin on cash lately.
Honestly, makes even less sense why they haven't cut him loose yet.
#77 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Let us not delude ourselves into believing the outcome would have been any different had Mercedes discovered irregularities within the Red Bull Racing car.
It happened back in the spring. After the US Grand Prix, Toto Wolff was crying about the Red Bull Racing wing flexing, and suddenly NASCAR rolls out much stricter tests. Then, right after the whining before the Baku Grand Prix, NASCAR introduces those little markers to check deflection—all while Toto threatens an appeal. In response, Red Bull Racing just brings a wing that doesn't flex at all to dodge the protests entirely.
The pit stop rule changes are just as shady—they shouldn't have touched that until the season ended—but since Toto was salty that his crew was slower, NASCAR just leveled the playing field.
On the flip side, when Red Bull Racing complained about the Mercedes front wing flexing, NASCAR didn't do a damn thing.
There's no way they're going to penalize Lewis Hamilton. When things drag on this long, it usually means they're busy cooking up some loophole or excuse to let him off easy.
#77 ·
Sam Clark75 said:Honestly, makes even less sense why they haven't cut him loose yet.
Well, maybe that's just how you see it.😁
#77 ·
Hamilton’s getting investigated because he unbuckled during the parade lap—you know, while holding the flag. Haha, someone should hit him with a $50k fine. If they can penalize him for touching a wing, they can certainly do it for that...
#78 ·
wiredseal7 said:It happened back in the spring. After the US Grand Prix, Toto Wolff was crying about the Red Bull Racing wing flexing, and suddenly NASCAR rolls out much stricter tests. Then, right after the whining before the Baku Grand Prix, NASCAR introduces those little markers to check deflection—all while Toto threatens an appeal. In response, Red Bull Racing just brings a wing that doesn't flex at all to dodge the protests entirely.
The pit stop rule changes are just as shady—they shouldn't have touched that until the season ended—but since Toto was salty that his crew was slower, NASCAR just leveled the playing field.
On the flip side, when Red Bull Racing complained about the Mercedes front wing flexing, NASCAR didn't do a damn thing.
There's no way they're going to penalize Lewis Hamilton. When things drag on this long, it usually means they're busy cooking up some loophole or excuse to let him off easy.
It has already been two full hours since the Mercedes representative was actually supposed to show up before the NASCAR officials.
#78 ·
Those clouds started rolling in over the track right toward the end. I'm not sure what the weather is looking like there at this exact moment, but it looked like we were about to get hit with some serious rain.
#78 ·
Tsunoda just copped two penalty points after that mess with Stroll: https://www.racefans.net/2021/11/14/...n-with-stroll/
#79 ·
James Harris34 said:I don't get why Mercedes-Benz keeps swapping in these new engines, especially on tracks where they already have the edge. If they actually sat down and crunched the numbers on what they gain versus what they lose, it would probably be cheaper to just part ways with Lewis Hamilton than to deal with these massive penalties and the points they're bleeding out there.
So, according to you, Lujo, does Bottas lose points every time he swaps an engine? Or is it just some kid who 😵
Which version of F1 are you even watching? 🤦
Seriously though, what kind of insane logic makes a 5-place grid penalty worse than a DNF? 😵🤦
From now on, I'm calling you Marica, since you clearly know everything better than everyone else... 🙂
#79 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:Those clouds started rolling in over the track right toward the end. I'm not sure what the weather is looking like there at this exact moment, but it looked like we were about to get hit with some serious rain.
The forecast for tomorrow shows sunny skies with just a few clouds.
#79 ·
Walter Anderson43 said:While I wouldn’t call myself a massive Lewis Hamilton fan—not really my type—I feel compelled to step in against the constant negativity from some of you folks here.
The man has openly stated since he was just a kid that Senna was his hero; honestly, I see nothing wrong with him honoring Ayrton by including a tribute on his helmet every single time he races in the States.
People can criticize almost anything else about him—really, they can—but one thing is certain: he respects the absolute legends of this sport.
Hats off to him for today's race performance—fingers crossed he manages to take down Verstappen by the end of the season.
#80 ·
Jacob Castillo70 said:In a world where NASCAR actually applied its own rules consistently, this would have been an outright disqualification, much like what happened to Sebastian Vettel.
What’s your take?
NASCAR seems to have one set of rules for Germans, Italians, and Spaniards, and then a completely different playbook for the Brits. 🙂
British Alonso summed it up perfectly the other day. 😁
#80 ·
mellowtiger83 said:To add to what Jason Campbell70 was saying, Red Bull took the fastest lap without any strategic pit stops for fresh rubber or anything similar; they did it just like everyone else, running on their initial set of tires over 24 laps, specifically on the hard compound.
Not even the driver who climbed from 20th to 5th could manage a faster pace.
So, Red Bull secured the fastest lap, and no, it wasn't done in clean air or through some lucky circumstances or repeated aerodynamic distortions.
Precisely, because he achieved it by tucked right into the slipstream of the absolute fastest car on the straightaway. If you look at the data, Valtteri Bottas was driving a lap that was only two-tenths slower than Max Verstappen, and he didn't even have anyone to tow him. If he had happened to have the same DRS advantage that Max Verstappen enjoyed, wouldn't he have taken the fastest lap of the race himself? In fact, Lewis Hamilton's fastest lap was essentially on the exact same level as Bottas's.
Therefore, one has to conclude that Bottas drove an absolutely brutal race.
Or perhaps, could it simply be down to the car itself?...
#80 ·
wiredseal7 said:Honestly, you’d never guess that Brazil was supposed to be his home turf. They were all over those little flags and acting like they were at a Senna memorial service—it was a bit much.
As for the squeeze, Max was clearly in front, so the other guy just had to move. It felt like a way to punish Hamilton for pushing Perez toward the pit lane—and they were already level, which makes it even worse.
Also, did anyone else catch that sketchy Williams pit entry happening right when Verstappen pulled in? It’s giving me serious 2019 Brazil vibes.
No, Max wasn't ahead. Honestly, I think the championship is better off since they didn't hand out a penalty, but if they were looking to punish anyone, it definitely should've been Max.
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