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Is Lewis Hamilton leaving Ford?

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Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#361 ·
William Bennett53 said:Williams has always had a reputation for valuing their cars far more than the drivers behind the wheel.

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stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#362 ·
Montezemolo confirmed Lewis Hamilton is leaving Ferrari

...2014 is the only season where the Scuderia was actually uncompetitive.

Sure, we haven't grabbed a title in six years for whatever reason, but we’ve also choked away two championships on the very last lap of the season.

This current season has been a total disaster from every angle, but hey, that's just sports.

What a joke. 🙂
Where does he get off acting like Ferrari was a complete dumpster fire only in 2014? 😬
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#363 ·
What kind of fantasies are we all having here?

Someone actually thinks they could replace Dennis? He *is* McLaren—how does one even begin to replace someone like that?

Lewis Hamilton at McLaren... yeah, right. I'll believe it when hell freezes over.

Lujo joining Ferrari... now that's a stretch.

By the way—if Lewis Hamilton and Frank ever split up, who gets custody of the kid?
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#364 ·
redheron12 said:What kind of fever dreams are you all having?

Someone actually thinks they can replace Dennis? Dennis is McLaren... how would anyone even attempt that?

Lewis Hamilton at McLaren... no way. You'll see hell freeze over first.

Lujo and Ferrari... unlikely.

By the way... if A and F split up, who gets custody of the kid?

You’re clearly living in the past...
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#365 ·
steelmaker83 said:you seem stuck in the past yourself...

Which part is actually giving you trouble?

Is it the premise or the conclusion?

Premise: Dennis alfa and Omega at McLaren
Premise: Lewis Hamilton at McLaren
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Conclusion: Hell has frozen over.

Or is this whole thing with Lojz and Ferrari just eating away at you?
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#366 ·
redheron12 said:Which part is giving you trouble?

Is it the premise or the conclusion?

Premise: Dennis alfa and Omega at McLaren
Premise: Lewis Hamilton at McLaren
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Conclusion: Hell has frozen over.

Or is it this whole thing with Lojz and Ferrari that's bothering you?

Dennis at McLaren isn't exactly the alpha or the omega these days, let alone both.

On the other hand, Lewis Hamilton at McLaren sounds interesting. ruggedhawk20 claims Dennis set up a trap for Lewis, but I think Ron is just scrolling through his phone looking for Brawn's number to ask him for a recommendation on a fishing rod.

We'll see.
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#367 ·
steelmaker83 said:Dennis isn't exactly the alpha or the omega at McLaren anymore—certainly not both...

On the flip side, the idea of Lewis Hamilton joining McLaren sounds pretty intriguing to me. ruggedhawk20 thinks Dennis is prepping a massive volley for Lewis, but my gut tells me Ron is just scrolling through his contacts looking for Brawn’s number to ask for advice on a new fishing rod...

We'll see how it plays out...

Dennis actually founded the entire McLaren group and serves as its chairman. He holds a 25% stake, and between him and Ojjeh, they control 50% plus one extra share. The rest is owned by the King of Bahrain, Hamad bin Isa ali Khalifa. That said, Dennis is currently in the middle of buying back 25% from the King and another 12.5% from Ojjeh. 😬

So, there isn't even a theoretical chance of anyone ousting Dennis.

Which effectively means Lewis has nothing to gain at McLaren—not even a little bit. 😒
gentlecobra23 gentlecobra23 Member
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#368 ·
redheron12 said:Dennis is the founder and chairman of the entire McLaren group. He owns 25% of the shares. Between him and Ojjeh, they hold 50% plus one extra share. The rest is owned by the King of Bahrain, Hamad bin Isa ali Khalifa. On top of that, Dennis is currently in the middle of buying out 25% from the King and another 12.5% from Ojjeh 😬

So, there isn't even a theoretical chance of anyone ousting Dennis...

Which just means Lewis Hamilton has absolutely nothing left to gain at McLaren, not even a consolation prize. 😒

I'm with you on this. I find it impossible to believe Dennis would swallow his pride and call Lewis Hamilton back. He already took the hit once because of him, and I truly don't believe he'd let himself be burned twice...
And given that reality, it looks like there really is nowhere left for Lewis Hamilton in F1...
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#369 ·
Honestly, "marriages of convenience" seem to be a foreign concept in today's F1. Are they even a thing anymore?

Lewis Hamilton needs a solid seat. McLaren needs a top-tier driver and better sponsors.
Everything is in order. All requirements met.
gentlecobra23 gentlecobra23 Member
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#370 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Yeah, marriage-of-convenience deals aren't really a thing in modern F1 anymore.

Lewis Hamilton needs a top-tier seat, while McLaren is missing both a driver who can deliver and the heavy-hitting sponsors...
All the ingredients are sitting right there on the table.

It’s hard for McLaren to find something they don't already lack. They're missing a solid driver lineup. As for the money, those sponsors will show up with the Japanese partners regardless of whether Lewis Hamilton signs or not.
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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#371 ·
gentlecobra23 said:It’s hard for McLaren to gain something they don't already have. They've got a solid driver lineup. Plus, sponsors will show up regardless of whether the Japanese partners are there or if Lewis Hamilton is on the grid.

But those Japanese sponsors aren't going to want Magnussen or Button.😁
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#372 ·
James Roberts87 said:But those Japanese sponsors aren't going to back Magnussen or Button😁

The sponsors won't go for Lewis Hamilton either.—it's just how the money flows.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#373 ·
redheron12 said:Even the sponsors won't touch Lewis Hamilton.

Nobody wants Lewis Hamilton—even Santander bailed on him.
cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#374 ·
redheron12 said:I'm not really sure what people mean when they say Lewis Hamilton has nothing left to gain at McLaren, not even a little bit. 😒

🙂

So, James Roberts87, does this mean you're going to have to start rooting for Lojz? 🤣 🤣
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#375 ·
cosmicridge5 said:🙂

So, kid—are you going to be forced to pull for Lojz? 🤣 🤣

No. There’s always a second driver on the grid. Besides, if Lojz actually shows up and becomes a contender... then sure, I'll back him. Even if he is—character-wise speaking—a total elitist jerk.
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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#376 ·
redheron12 said:Even Lewis Hamilton wouldn't get sponsors at this rate.

That’s not true, especially since he's exactly who Honda picked. Given the current situation with Dennis, we'll see how things play out. Honestly, those deals were settled ages ago; all this drama over the selection is just "fake news" to keep the fans entertained...
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#377 ·
James Roberts87 said:Not really—given that he’s exactly what Honda is looking for. With everything going on with Ron Dennis, we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. Honestly, most of this drama surrounding the selection feels like nothing more than "fake news" meant to keep the fans entertained...

Honda needs someone to basically babysit their new engine during that first season. It’s no surprise they’d want Fernando Alonso.

I suspect Dennis will only agree if the terms of the move are absolutely humiliating for Fernando. I don't know the specifics, but I wouldn't be surprised if the contract technically reads: "Fernando Alonso agrees to be Ron Dennis's errand boy for one year."
cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#378 ·
redheron12 said:Nah. There's always a second driver.

What, you actually think I’m going to pick a side? I guess Fernando is just faster than you. Losers? 🍿

I mean, if Louie actually shows up and starts being competitive... then yeah, I guess I'll be rooting for him.

I have to admit, I’m actually kind of looking forward to those posts, even if it feels a little bit wrong. 🤣

I wouldn't root for Lewis Hamilton even if he were driving both Ferraris at once. I guess everyone has to have certain lines they just won't cross. 😁

He’s just a typical snob and a complete bottom-feeder, I guess.

So, who’s the better choice here: Lewis Hamilton or Ron Dennis? 🙂 😁
cosmicridge5 cosmicridge5 Regular
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#379 ·
redheron12 said:I guess Dennis would only agree if the transfer terms were basically an insult to Fernando Alonso. I don't know... maybe there's a clause in the contract that officially states: "Fernando Alonso agrees to be Ron Dennis's little errand boy for a year."

Yeah, sure, because Fernando is definitely known for signing those kinds of humiliating contracts 🤣
redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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#380 ·
cosmicridge5 said:I have to admit—with a bit of shame—that I actually look forward to those posts from that immoral jerk. 🤣

That immoral jerk wins again for McLaren 🎉

😁

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