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Bad Boys - Part IV

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Gary Evans90 Gary Evans90 Active Member
88 messages
joined Jul 2014
#361 ·
You guys are all making a huge deal out of nothing regarding the filming situation. There are actual professionals assigned to handle the official recording at a high level. Of course, you’re going to have fans and visitors snapping videos on their phones; you can't just root that out entirely, but that isn't really the point of what certain guys are trying to communicate here. Anyone with half a brain knows where to stand in the arena to catch a few moments for memory's sake, BUT SETTLING IN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUPPORTER SECTION IS DEFINITELY NOT IT!! Basically, anyone who camps out in the heart of the supporters' section is essentially declaring themselves an ACTIVE FAN by their very presence. And the job of an active fan is to cheer for the club for all 90 minutes and actually follow the rules and guidelines being shouted through the megaphones by the leadership. Back when we were at the Syracuse game, the supporter section was a bit of a circus—and look, I’m not against having a diverse crowd; in fact, that kind of variety is how you build a strong core following—but those first games are always the hardest, and most of the "newcomers" tend to show they haven't quite learned the ropes yet. The printed flyers (especially the larger ones discussing the blue boxes and the 🙏 filming) are great, but from what I saw, the flyer about pyrotechnics was handed out in front of the arena, while the much more important one (the other one) probably got less attention because people were already preoccupied with finding seats, getting through security, blah blah blah. My suggestion would be to hand out the smaller flyers right at the sector entrance, and save the larger, more vital ones for the area outside the arena while the crew is gathering. Secondly, taking an aggressive approach or trying to enforce weird schemes regarding filming won't achieve anything; it'll just backfire. I saw plenty of security staff out there, and I honestly think those guys—who volunteered to help management make sure everything looks good and runs smoothly—should be the ones ensuring the supporter section looks respectable too. For instance, looking at the back row in Syracuse or that railing where a lot of people were congregating, it's the perfect spot for 3 or 4 security members to stand; they basically have the whole section in the palm of their hands and can spot where things are going sideways. If you place another 3 or 4 security members along every edge of the section, you effectively surround the group, giving you maximum control over the crowd and individuals. As soon as a mistake happens, you react immediately and explain to those people that what they're doing is wrong and that there’s no place for that behavior in a dedicated supporter section. Over time, that kind of approach will foster a sense of culture within the group, which is the primary and most fundamental thing we need to work on. Cheers ☕
Sean Wilson2 Sean Wilson2 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Apr 2014
#362 ·
slyeagle512 said:Forget all that nonsense about spectacles, forced positivity, and cheap beer.

You hit the nail on the head; it’s nothing but negativity lately. 👍
It honestly feels like the crowds at the futsal games have grown too large, and since everyone is just there to goof off and act rowdy, we really need to get things under control.
driftingotter47 driftingotter47 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jun 2018
#363 ·
casualrider43 said:Honestly, you guys are being incredibly rude. 🐔
A little sense of humor wouldn't kill anyone, seriously. 🎉

Oh, so you're "joking" every single time someone asks a decent question? You could really stand to learn some manners.

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There is absolutely nothing in this world that could ever take the place of this for me, nothing. What an incredible shot 🙏 🙏 🙏
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#364 ·
slyeagle512 said:Screw you all, the hype, the fake positivity, and the cheap beer.

👍👍👍

We’ve already heard better talk than this from five hundred real fans, and you have no idea what actually goes down during those private meetings and the drinks after. 🙄 I’m definitely not putting that stuff on this forum; I’ve already learned to keep my mouth shut to avoid being kicked out by the same people who got ousted from the group today. So, if any of you old-timers are confused, just shoot me a DM and I’ll happily clear things up privately. If you want to vent or protest, go do it at the away games against GNK Mamić—that’s where we fight for our shared values. Here, we should be focusing on the new generation and building a long-term project. Ego maniacs aren't welcome in this movement!!! This is about everyone, not just our little inner circle of "in-the-know" guys acting like we own the place. We have to accept that the goal here is simple: DON'T screw up, and show how a club can actually be run on the principle of one member, one vote. Plenty of us are working hard on exactly what you’re talking about—we want POSITIVE vibes so that when we head back to the North Stand, everyone feels like they're home!
And that’s it—I’m done arguing! See you guys at the game. When that GRIZLI banner drops, everyone get your phones out. Jesse Campbell, you’ve got better promotion from dropping a banner than Torcida Macola ever did, hahahaahaha!
casualrider43 casualrider43 Active Member
205 messages
joined Nov 2012
#365 ·
driftingotter47 said:You start "joking around" every single time someone asks a decent question. Honestly, you could stand to learn a little bit of basic manners.

Come on, man, let’s try to keep things positive! It’s not like anyone takes this forum seriously anyway. 👍
Samuel Walker10 Samuel Walker10 Active Member
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joined Sep 2014
#366 ·
Robin Anderson8 said:We need to bring the energy if we want to fill the arenas. We gotta pull in the younger crowd who couldn't care less about all that old drama at Yankee Stadium... Every single time there's a game, people just flock here to complain and spread negativity...

Cut the crap with the constant complaining and start talking about the good stuff for once. Plenty of people are actually coming back to the stands because they want to watch this futsal. All those people who used to judge us, calling us hooligans or thugs? Now they’re sitting in coffee shops praising the atmosphere. We have to present ourselves that way to the public. Any other issues should be handled internally—fix what needs fixing behind closed doors 🙂 ..

I'm editing this one, next time you get a ban
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#367 ·
Look, shouting stuff like "if you aren't with us, you're dead to us" is trash, but running around like a bunch of mindless anarchists is just as bad. You need some damn order.

What happened at the game today was actually perfect because nobody went overboard. It was a vibe. If anyone here actually talks to people, it’s me. Yet somehow, everyone's still obsessed with finding something to complain about.

Why though?
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#368 ·
Not a single soul raised an eyebrow about anything actually important.
There were a few complaints about wasting time on unnecessary drills, but that was pretty much it.
If people actually listened to good-faith advice—which they really should—this whole back-and-forth wouldn't have even lasted three posts.
If anyone has a suggestion, the most logical thing is to just take it. You shouldn't kick up a massive fuss and start insulting everyone like they’re some bottom-of-the-barrel losers who don't matter at all.
I'm confident everyone got their point across, and that legitimate advice will be taken on board. Period.
Let's move on. EVERYONE IN ORLANDO!!!!
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#369 ·
analogheron19 said:Nobody even spoke up about a single thing that actually mattered.
A few people complained about overtraining the junior squad, but that's pretty much it.
If people actually listened to decent advice instead of whining about it—advice that’s clearly meant to help—we wouldn't be stuck in this endless back-and-forth. We wouldn't even be past the third post.
If anyone's got some advice, just take the hit and move on. No need to start a massive drama and act like everyone else is trash.
I'm sure everyone said their piece, thinking their "expert advice" would actually be taken seriously. Yeah, right.
Let's go, EVERYONE IN ORLANDO!!!!

It’s not just about being strict. Last time, everyone spent five days obsessing over whether to fly the Union Jack. What kind of drama is that for an online forum? Total waste of time.

As far as filming goes, you’ve got total freedom to move around the arena. One ticket gets you access to every single section—nobody's gonna mess with you. You can walk around whenever you want; you could basically run a full marathon during the game if you felt like it. If someone tries to stop you from filming in the middle of the stands, just head over to another section and keep shooting until your phone battery dies.

Look, I’m all for being respectful and treating people right—that goes without saying. But honestly? I haven't seen or heard a single instance of anything else happening here. If there actually were problems, then yeah, they definitely need to be dealt with.

Every single mistake and screw-up should just be logged and brought up at the annual meeting. That’s where people actually get to vote on whether they’re fed up with the management and how things are run. Look, it's obvious that banning flags and stopping people from filming Bad Boys stuff is an issue with the organization, not futsal Dinamo itself. But honestly, whining on some random forum is pointless when you can just show up, speak out, and vote everything down in public.
Daniel Carter9 Daniel Carter9 Member
16 messages
joined Jul 2009
#370 ·
Don't get mad at me, but honestly, most of you on this thread are acting completely irrational, with a few exceptions.

Since this project kicked off, there hasn't been a single incident or issue involving the police, security, officials, delegates, the media, or the league. No one has actually seen a single problem during the last three matches, yet here we are, spending an entire week arguing about the flag and two instances where someone was asked not to take photos in the stands. I truly can't wrap my head around it. You’re either being unreasonable or intentionally malicious—there isn't a middle ground. There’s zero respect for the huge group of people pushing this forward on a volunteer basis; instead, people are using this forum just to spread negativity and complain about stern looks. It makes no sense to me. Meanwhile, other fan groups, both here and globally, hide much worse behavior, yet when it comes to the Bad Boys, every tiny mistake or minor hiccup has to be blown up on this forum. It’s not right. It doesn't matter if it's the crew that always shows up in full force or the guys who think security should be filming the stands to point out errors; it's unhealthy to make such a public spectacle out of everything, regardless of who is involved.

At the end of the day, this whole thing won't be ruined by the police or the league, but by small-minded people who can't just show up and speak to someone directly if they have a grievance.

Los Angeles FC was designed as an alternative to the New York City FC camp and the circus found in other sports. We will constantly be searching for balance here, and people will inevitably make mistakes. But does it not bother you that you're creating this kind of anti-propaganda over two security guards simply asking people not to film in the supporters' section? What is the goal here? There are two other sections on the side; go film there if you want, but the supporter section is for cheering, and it looks terrible if everyone is filming from it. That's all there is to it. Why invent a problem where none exists? It's pathetic.

And Tom, with all due respect, you're letting all this nonsense be posted here, allowing these rumors to spread like wildfire.
darkviper16 darkviper16 Active Member
69 messages
joined Oct 2014
#371 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:And honestly, Tom, even with all due respect, you’re letting this absolute garbage stay up on here, letting nonsense spread through the community like a wildfire.

I’m 100% with you on this; I don't get why these posts with such moronic arguments about the flag aren't just deleted immediately, especially when someone else reads them and thinks people are actually out there risking their lives just for a photo op. Seriously, you guys are killing any positive vibe people have left for showing up to the indoor soccer games with these kinds of posts.
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#372 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:Don't get mad at me, but honestly, most of you guys on this thread are losing it, with a few exceptions.

Since this whole project kicked off, there hasn't been a single incident. Not one issue with the cops, security, officials, delegates, the media, or the league. Nobody has seen a single problem in the last three games, yet here we are, a week later, whining about a flag and two instances where someone was told in the stands not to take photos. I'm telling you, you all have lost touch with reality. You’re either being malicious or just plain crazy; there isn't a third option. There isn't even a shred of respect for the massive group of people pushing this forward on a volunteer basis. Instead, you're using this forum to spread negativity and obsess over some guard giving someone a dirty look. I genuinely can't wrap my head around it. Meanwhile, other groups—both here and globally—hide much worse stuff, but when it comes to the Bad Boys, every tiny mistake or minor hiccup has to be blasted on the forum. It’s not normal. It doesn't matter if it's the "back to basics" crowd or the folks who think security should be filming the stands to correct mistakes; it's pathological to make such a public spectacle out of everything, regardless of where it's coming from.

At the end of the day, this whole thing won't be ruined by the police, the league, or anyone else. It'll be sabotaged by small-minded people who can't show up in person to say what's bothering them.

Los Angeles FC was designed to be an alternative to the New York City FC camp and the circus found in other sports. We're going to be searching for balance constantly, and sure, people are going to mess up. But does it really hurt your soul to engage in this kind of anti-propaganda just because two security guards asked people not to film in the stands? What is wrong with you? There are two other sections on the side; go film your movies there. The supporter section is for cheering, and it looks ridiculous when everyone is busy filming. That's it. Period. Where is the damn problem, and why are you making it up? It's pathetic.

And Tom, with all due respect, you're letting any old garbage be posted here, allowing this nonsense to spread like Ebola.

Look, I believe certain things can be corrected through the forum if they can't be handled any other way. I believe people can realize things here, or that good-faith advice can be heard if it's shared online. I believe I have the right to voice my opinion here when there's no other outlet, and since I'm stubborn and thick-headed, I'm going to stick to that right regardless of what anyone thinks.
It's a shame that instead of taking honest, well-intentioned advice, everyone just jumps down my throat instead of accepting it so we can move forward together.
And no, I haven't listed the most extreme examples of mindless strictness, so please, stop trying to police my words.
Like I said, the advice is given in good faith. I'm sure some will take it, and if we all act smarter, we can move toward more wins.
Christian Stewart5 Christian Stewart5 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2008
#373 ·
Jesse Campbell said:First off, it’s acting like the SS was rounding people up just to film them, while ISIS was out there beheading people—and I didn't even notice anyone getting slaughtered, let alone anything more extreme. Besides, Facebook is flooded with photos taken by regular people; I doubt they all had high-end intelligence agency gear.

Second, just because an event is a massive spectacle doesn't mean the rules don't apply like they do in the stands. It would be ridiculous if someone’s jaw got broken—WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN—but asking people nicely not to take photos is perfectly reasonable.

If you want to snap photos and record everything, go to the side bleachers and do your thing.

Third, after every single big event, we end up back on this forum complaining about manufactured drama, like that whole mess regarding the British flag last time.

Look, guys, someone actually has to organize all of this. People are working their asses off to make it happen. If you have enough energy to sit here typing, maybe use some of it to help the people who are actually putting in the work so a few thousand people can show up and enjoy something incredible. Show some decency and help out.

So what, am I supposed to just delete every photo on my phone now? 🤔
Thomas Williams59 Thomas Williams59 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jun 2005
#374 ·
Zachary Sullivan2 said:

What on earth is this journalist even talking about, good grief. The Flag and Coat of Arms Act is all about the OFFICIAL use of the US flag and seal—how they’re supposed to look and the specific official occasions where they are actually USED, plus how that OFFICIAL seal has to be formatted when used in those contexts.
The law DOESN'T say anything about random scribbles on some transformer boxes!
Whether it's some random graffiti, stuff with historical or artistic vibes, or whatever, spray-painted on a wall in the neighborhood or carved into a tree—not to mention some weird stuff I saw recently on a bulletin board at an elementary school that some art teacher probably put up, featuring checkerboard patterns and slashes—people have all kinds of ideas, but WHO CARES, except for this journalist? Honestly, what has the media become lately? Such nonsense articles.... 😵
lonepuma9 lonepuma9 Member
19 messages
joined Jun 2012
#375 ·
analogheron19 said:Look, I honestly believe that forums can be a place to fix things when there’s no other way to reach people. If people can actually learn something here—or if they'll just listen to some well-intended advice because they won't elsewhere—then that's what we're doing. I feel like I have every right to voice my opinion on this board when it feels like there's no other outlet. Even if I'm being stubborn or thick-headed about it, I'm going to stick to my guns regardless of what anyone else thinks.
It’s just disappointing when honest, good-faith advice gets met with immediate hostility instead of being taken seriously so we can all move forward together...
And no, I haven't even listed the most extreme examples of senseless, rigid coaching, so please, let's stop nitpicking every single word I say.
Like I said, the advice is out there. I'm sure some of it is being heard, and if we all just get a little smarter together, we can focus on getting more wins...


There is an official group forum specifically for all of this stuff.
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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joined May 2022
#376 ·
A smart post. Truly insightful...
nimblecobra42 nimblecobra42 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#377 ·
If people actually listened to Tom, Ruka, and the rest of the crew—the ones who have already been through the wringer and actually know what they’re talking about—we wouldn't be in this mess... but hey, that’s life, I guess. Everyone wants to be the one calling the shots, everyone thinks their opinion is gospel, especially the younger crowd... and frankly, that just doesn't work in the real world.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#378 ·
analogheron19 said:Yeah, I figure some things can be fixed right here on this forum if they can't be handled any other way. If people can actually learn something or take some good advice from this thread instead of elsewhere, then why not? I honestly feel like I have the right to speak my mind here when there's no other outlet, even if I'm being stubborn as hell about it. I don't care what anyone thinks.
It sucks that people jump down my throat for trying to give honest, helpful advice instead of just taking it so we can all move on peacefully.
And no, I haven't listed the most extreme cases of mindless rule-following yet, so stop policing my every word.
Like I said, the advice is out there. I'm sure some people are listening, and if we all just get smarter together, we'll keep winning.

Alright, fine. Let's "helpfully" tell people that if they want to film, they should just move to a different bleacher to do it. It makes zero sense filming your own section while you're sitting in it; you'd get way better shots from somewhere else anyway.

There’s no point standing in the middle of a fan section recording with your phone like some clueless tourist. You just end up looking like a total idiot. Right?
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#379 ·
lonepuma9 said:There’s an official group forum for all that kind of stuff.

Then why the hell is everyone here getting so worked up and attacking people who are just calmly stating their opinions? People are genuinely trying to help out with advice and suggestions, but if you’re just going to brush everything off as irrelevant, then fine—just ignore what's written and leave everyone alone. Every time someone posts something on this pointless site, people immediately start foaming at the mouth. You get mobs, SMS chains, phone calls... it’s like a full-blown mobilization, as if the Raiders just rolled into town.
It practically turns into a lynching atmosphere just because someone had the nerve to share a viewpoint.
Honestly, you get more tolerance on those partisan message boards than you do here.
Does someone have to be part of the inner circle to be right? Do you have to be in the chat 24/7 just to be allowed to speak?
People need to realize this is a public forum where anyone can express themselves as long as they aren't being abusive or making threats.
Folks might not have the guts to say something to someone's face in person, but that doesn't mean they should get insulted or threatened just because they posted it anonymously here.
A little more tolerance and respect—both in the stands and on the forums—wouldn't hurt anybody.
At the end of the day, we're all on the same side anyway.
analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#380 ·
Jesse Campbell said:Look, fine. We can try to be nice about it and tell people that if they actually want to film, they should just head over to the opposing section to do it. There’s zero point in filming your own stands while you’re sitting in them; you’ll get way better shots and video from the other side anyway.

Standing right in the middle of the fan section filming with your phone like some lost tourist is just stupid. You're basically just being a nuisance to everyone else trying to enjoy the game. Makes sense, right?

Obviously. It’s common sense, and most people get that. As for the ones who don't? They'll figure it out eventually, so no big deal.

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