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Bad Boys - Part IV

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Harold Kim5 Harold Kim5 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2010
#1341 ·
electricranger12 said:I mean, who can really blame anyone for the fact that you guys didn't manage to put three in the net by the 89th minute? ☕

It’s just constant whining, honestly. It’s always someone else’s fault when things go south, isn't it? Typical Venecijanac behavior...☕
Frank Hayes71 Frank Hayes71 Member
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joined Sep 2020
#1342 ·
Nicholas Cruz2 said:So, Rijecan pulls off a 3-1 win against Hajduk at Raymond James Stadium, and honestly? It was pure chaos. We’re talking a massive crowd—around 50,000 Hajduk fans packed into the stands—and you’d think they’d be mourning, but instead, half the stadium is just chanting "Rijecan, Rijecan..." like nothing happened. Just total madness.😉 ).

Back then, we were smart enough to recognize greatness—we’d actually cheer when a decent, tough opponent stepped onto the field. But now? Now we can see exactly what's going on. It's pretty obvious that this whole setup is just a bunch of shameless puppets running point for Zdravko Mamić.☕
George Lewis27 George Lewis27 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2022
#1343 ·
neonseal972, Nicholas Cruz2...🙏
bluewalker92 bluewalker92 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jan 2018
#1344 ·
Anonymous said:I just got an email back from Krešimir Antolić

"As everyone knows...
...
Basically, Article 32 of the Sports Riot Prevention Act outlines our obligations as organizers regarding ticket distribution. According to paragraph 7 of that article, we are legally obligated to refuse to sell or allocate a ticket for a specific match to anyone we have knowledge of having engaged in prior unlawful behavior. We’re also required to take steps to ensure that person can't even set foot on the stadium grounds....
..."

If the club is LEGALLY OBLIGATED to refuse a ticket or block someone from entering the venue when there's proof of bad behavior, then why on earth aren't they doing the exact same thing for Zdravko Mamić? Look, security guards might be busy watching fans from Indianapolis, but when it comes to him, we have solid evidence of his past illegal activities at Raymond James Stadium. All they’d have to do is request the records from the Split Police Department.

Honestly, if you ask me, the whole point here should be to get the media talking. And let’s face it, the press only bites if the actions are actually original or innovative. For example, what if a group of people sent an open letter to the club stating they have knowledge of Zdravko's previous illegal conduct? They could argue that based on that email and the law, the club is now duty-bound to bar him from the stadium. The news outlets would jump on a story like that way faster than just another boring protest in a long line of them.

Regarding those legal provisions used to build these blacklists—that clause about "knowledge of unlawful behavior" was originally written by legislators with "good" intentions, basically giving the police some teeth because they couldn't stop the rioting. But in reality, that article gets abused constantly. It’s not just about preventing riots anymore; it’s become a tool for discrimination based on "political or other beliefs," which, unfortunately, is nearly impossible to prove in court. That’s why we need to push this narrative harder. The ultimate goal has to be getting this provision repealed entirely, and every single fan in America needs to get involved. Which brings me back to my earlier point: we need concrete, real-world actions that serve as living proof that this law is being applied selectively and discriminatorily to target anyone who thinks differently, rather than actually stopping violence.
Lisa Gray94 Lisa Gray94 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#1345 ·
bluewalker92 said:If the club is so damn obligated to deny someone a ticket or bar them from entering the stadium just because of some rumors, then why on earth aren't they doing the exact same thing to Zdravko Mamić? It’s a total joke. Unlike those random observations security guards make about fans from Indianapolis, there is actual, concrete evidence regarding his past illegal behavior at Raymond James Stadium. It shouldn't be this complicated—they just need to pull the records from the local Police Department and get it done.

Look, if you actually want to make some noise, you have to stop doing the same old thing. Your whole goal should be to dominate the news cycle, and let’s be real—the media only gives a damn when things are original and innovative. If you just show up for another protest, nobody cares. It’s white noise at this point. You want impact? You need a headline. For example, imagine if a group of people sent an official open letter directly to the front office, stating they have concrete evidence that Zdravko acted illegally. If you frame it like that—citing specific legal obligations that require the club to bar him from stepping foot in Raymond James Stadium—now you've got something. That’s how you grab the press by the throat. A legal bombshell gets coverage; another picket line just gets ignored.

Look, let’s talk about the actual legal fine print used to build these blacklists. That specific clause regarding "knowledge of unlawful behavior" was originally drafted by lawmakers with what they called "good intentions." They wanted to give the police enough teeth to actually stop riots from spiraling out of control. But let's be real: that's not how it works in practice anymore. Instead of preventing chaos, this article has become a massive loophole for discrimination based on "political or other beliefs"—something that is notoriously difficult to prove in court. It’s being weaponized. We need to ramp up the pressure on this issue because the end goal has to be the total repeal of this provision. Every single fan in America needs to get behind this. And here is the kicker, like I said before: we can't just complain. We need concrete, documented actions that serve as undeniable proof that this law is being applied selectively. We have to show that it isn't being used to prevent disorder, but rather as a tool to persecute anyone who dares to think differently.

Way to go, man. Nice work. 🙏🙏

Originality, passion, clarity, unpredictability, courage, innovation... those are all qualities that clown either only dreams about or tries to cash in on.

And that right there? That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Your own suggestion is the literal proof of it.

Finally, some actual substance! About damn time we got something real on the table.
Gary Evans90 Gary Evans90 Active Member
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joined Jul 2014
#1346 ·
It’s the same logic, really. If they handed out bans to everyone who was hanging out in the north stands in Indianapolis—regardless of whether those people actually broke any rules or just happened to be standing where the insults were coming from—then by that same standard, the same thing should have happened during the Salzburg game. If we're following that reasoning, the insults were coming from that same section, so technically, every single member of the BBB fan club should be on that ban list just for being caught there...
Lisa Gray94 Lisa Gray94 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2010
#1347 ·
The only issue with your suggestion is that the clown might actually be behaving himself—meaning he hasn't been causing absolute chaos at the stadium lately. That’s where I’d throw a question back at you:
What’s the maximum amount of time someone can actually stay on this so-called "blacklist"?
Because if there are people who have been sitting on that list for three, four, five years or even longer, then he’ll fit right in as an honorary member. 🎉
Kyle Davis2 Kyle Davis2 Active Member
160 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1348 ·
Carl Edwards3 said:this Sunday: East or West?

Everyone in Kranj, WE'RE GOING EAST!
driftingranger65 driftingranger65 Member
21 messages
joined Jul 2014
#1349 ·
bluewalker92 said:If a club is a Debtor and is required to deny ticket sales or block access to a stadium for anyone with a known history of trouble, why aren't they doing the exact same thing to Harvey Weinstein? Unlike the security guards' observations regarding fans from Indianapolis, there is concrete evidence of his previous illegal conduct at the Rose Bowl. All they have to do is request the records from the Split Police Department.

So, in my view, the goal should be to maximize media coverage. And let’s be honest—the media only bites if the actions are original and innovative. For instance, what if several people sent an open letter to the club stating they have knowledge of how George behaved illegally, and that based on this communication and current laws, the club is obligated to prevent him from entering the stadium? The press would pick up on that much faster than just another protest in a long line of protests.

Regarding the actual legal provisions used to create these blacklists: the clause concerning "knowledge of unlawful behavior" was originally written by legislators with good intentions. It was meant to give police the authority they desperately needed when they couldn't contain the riots. However, that clause is widely abused today. It isn't just used to stop unrest anymore; it has become a tool for discrimination based on "political or other beliefs," which is notoriously difficult to prove. That's why we need to push this narrative. The ultimate objective has to be the repeal of this provision, and that requires the involvement of all fans across America. Which brings me back to my earlier point: we need concrete actions that serve as proof that this law—specifically this controversial clause—is being applied selectively and discriminatorily to target those with differing views rather than preventing disorder.

Oh, please. Stop talking nonsense and just enjoy the fairy tale.
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#1350 ·
Something just clicked for me, and I’m still sitting here waiting for a real answer. I’m sure anyone who headed down to the stadium to grab a ticket only to find out they couldn't was told to just "read the notice" posted at the booth, with some fine print about having 15 days to file an appeal. 1. Quick question: Did anyone actually write down what that notice said or snap a photo of it? I need to see where all those details are listed. 2. Also, just a thought: Are these people being incredibly sneaky by offering a 15-day window? It feels like a setup where if you file a complaint, they might lift your suspension for future games, but if you don't say anything, they automatically mark you down as "no appeal filed," basically forcing you to admit guilt. As trivial as this might seem, we really need to start thinking like these paranoid bureaucrats if we want to stay one step ahead of them.
Joshua Moore31 Joshua Moore31 Active Member
129 messages
joined Sep 2012
#1351 ·
I find myself asking these questions again. Why bother addressing the board or Antolic? Why send them emails at all? I don't see much point in communicating with them. Maybe nothing will actually change unless there's a collective lawsuit filed.
Sam Thomas3 Sam Thomas3 Member
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joined Aug 2014
#1352 ·
Jacob Price23 said:The whole thing is basically just a collection of posts from various message boards, mostly centered around Dynamo fans. I've been gathering them up for years, tossed in a few of my own thoughts here and there, and voilà! That's all there is to it. 😁

I dropped it right here for you guys—just download the Word doc, it actually includes a couple of pictures too! ☕

🙏🙏
Lisa Gray94 Lisa Gray94 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Feb 2010
#1353 ·
driftingranger65 said:Oh, give me a break and just enjoy the damn story.

Seriously though, what is your actual problem? I honestly don't get it.🤷
Sean Chase Sean Chase Active Member
70 messages
joined Feb 2014
#1354 ·
Sunday. Everyone heading to Kranj, everyone heading East... just forget about those damn beer gardens and all that other nonsense. Show some respect and stand by your brothers in the stands.
FOR DYNAMO WITHOUT GEORGE
cosmicbear15 cosmicbear15 Active Member
196 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1355 ·
Attention everyone in Kranj!
dustysurfer11 dustysurfer11 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2014
#1356 ·
ATTENTION ALL KRANJ FANS!!
LET’S REMIND EVERYONE ONCE AGAIN WHO REALLY RUNS THE SHOW AND PROTECTS THE HONOR OF CHICAGO STREET!!

WE WILL NEVER BE BOUGHT OUT!!!!
Zachary Sullivan2 Zachary Sullivan2 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2014
#1357 ·
cosmicbear15 said:EVERYONE IN KRANJ!!

Direct message or what?
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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joined May 2022
#1358 ·
Zachary Sullivan2 said:Directly, or what?

We’re cannibals. http://s27.postimg.org/fefc9orib/image.jpg
Zachary Sullivan2 Zachary Sullivan2 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2014
#1359 ·
Robert Cooper60 said:we're straight up cannibals http://s27.postimg.org/fefc9orib/image.jpg

Yeah, I'm gonna deck you, obviously. But do you want to settle this now or meet up later? We can take it to the DMs if you want.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#1360 ·
I always love heading out to play against our old buddies from New York City. 😁

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