Bad Boys - Part IV

Jeremy Brooks3 said:Why are you guys all ganging up on James Brooks4? The guy is largely right. That whole protest downtown was nothing more than an ego trip. I just don't get why they're hiding their true motives behind some vague slogans against the USSF when everyone knows exactly why they showed up. Look, I am the first person in line to advocate for uniting all American fan groups to wipe out the scum running this sport, but pulling an action like this right in the middle of the fight against the USSF is a total tactical blunder.

Give me a break. Personally, I’m proud that TORCIDA was allowed to march through the heart of the city without a single one of them making a move to provoke anyone.
In fact, it was quite the opposite. Dammit, we have to admit that we need the help and support. Whether we agree with them or not, it’s a cold, hard fact: we can't do this alone.

Jeremy Brooks3 said:Why is everyone dogpiling on James Brooks4 when he’s mostly right? That whole protest downtown was just a massive ego trip. Honestly, I don't get why they're hiding behind slogans against the USSF when their actual motives are obvious. Look, I’m all for getting our local groups together to clean out the trash, but staging a protest right now while we're fighting the USSF is just a total miss.

They're attacking him because this forum is basically run by a mafia of bullies who act tough online, even though in the real world they're just nobodies who barely contribute anything to the group! And yeah, it's pure egotrip. If they actually wanted to take down the USSF in DC, nobody would have dared to say they were coming to face us—they would’ve just met us at some local dive bar or a suburban school in a nearby town, knowing we'd show up before the cops even arrived. But no, instead they do this pathetic little protest with two slogans like it's bad poetry. It didn't help the fight against the USSF one bit, and it wasn't even a real presence in the city since the riot squad shows up in five minutes flat. If those losers hadn't been sleeping and actually managed to gather in those five minutes, the news wouldn't be about the USSF today—it'd be about the chaos in the streets! Anyone smart will back off, but the idiots will just go back to being rude under their fake usernames, or they'll just give you six sarcastic nicknames like that moron does...

wearyraven25 said:Look at all those post-derby statements. With how Svetin performed today, it’s obvious they're trying to bury the real issues. They just keep pushing the police narrative like they own the lists. Honestly, they probably know their bans won't hold up in court—it's likely illegal for Dinamo to hand out bans based on nothing but suspicion, regardless of what that article says.
It’s pretty telling how your guy was emailing them, straight-up demanding to see the evidence proving he did anything wrong during the Indianapolis game. He asked for footage or witness names, and suddenly Antolić just ghosted him, claiming he didn't have time for the debate.
Collective guilt isn't a thing. You can't prove it, even if a thousand fans were chanting against Mamić or a few flares went off.
We need to push back. File private lawsuits, tear these bans apart. They don't have the receipts. This whole thing was sloppy, done with the assumption nobody would fight for justice. If people actually tried, 95% of the guys in the North stands could shut this whole charade down.

Of course, Svetin is talking trash about the wall like some guy making up lists, even though just a few weeks ago, a thousand people were banned from the game overnight. Back then, those assholes claimed the club had every right to do it.

I'm personally wondering how I ended up on a blacklist before the Indianapolis or Salzbrug games. Pretty sure I'm not some bottom-tier troublemaker. My only crime is calling that bastard and his management hacks out on the internet.

Jesse Campbell said:Of course, that piece of trash Svetin is rambling on about stadium walls like he’s some kind of political strategist, even though just a few weeks ago, they overnight banned a thousand people from entering the game. Back then, those assholes were insisting the club had every right to do it.

Personally, I’m wondering how the hell I ended up on a blacklist before those games against Indianapolis or Salzbrug ever happened. Because I can guarantee you, I am definitely not some low-level nobody. My only crime is calling that bastard and his management exactly what they are all over the internet...

I honestly think if someone gets a real lawyer involved and starts filing lawsuits—whether they're private or class actions—you might actually have a fighting chance at driving the final nail into the coffin of this Dinamo leadership, and then the USSF would be collapsing by the very next day...

Edward Mendoza70 said:Honestly, I’m just proud they let TORCIDA march right through downtown! Not once did they act like they were there to stir up trouble. Such a good vibe!
Actually, it’s the exact opposite! Look, we gotta admit it—we need some help and support out there. Whether we like it or not, it's just a fact that we can't pull this off on our own!

If you actually paid even a little attention, you’d realize nobody even asked the USSF for help! They weren't even hoping for it. Sorry, but honestly? People were just too busy celebrating Murja to care. If you had been around for even one single action against the USSF, you'd know we're fighting this battle all on our own. And hey, the fact that you're proud of those losers parading through downtown says everything I need to know about you!

James Brooks4 said:If you actually had even a shred of clue what was going on, you’d realize they were asking the USSF and hoping for some kind of win—just like how much everyone was rooting for Murja. If you had spent even one damn second watching us go head-to-head against the NHS, you'd understand that we are fighting this battle entirely on our own. Honestly, the fact that you're acting all proud just because those idiots were parading through downtown tells me everything I need to know about your character.

Fine. I'm exhausted.

Edward Mendoza70 said:Man, please. Personally, I’m actually proud that TORCIDA was allowed to march through downtown. They didn't do anything to act like they were there to provoke anyone,
actually, it was the complete opposite. Look, we have to admit it—we need help and support because clearly, we can't handle this on our own. Whether we agree with it or not, that's just the reality.

Proud of what? Having some other group take over the main square in your city?
And no, nobody "allowed" them. As far as I know, there’s no official truce or anything. What kind of "support" did we even get out of that besides just being provoked?

Timothy Green5 said:just cooking the numbers, lol🙏

What exactly was wrong with what I wrote? There were already about 300 names on the list, and if you add everyone from Indianapolis, that’s closer to 1,000 people. Plus, since Saturday, they've added everyone who was detained after the sheriff's incident a few years back. Just because you don't know doesn't make it untrue.

Edward Mendoza70 said:Give me a break, personally, I’m actually proud that TORCIDA was allowed to march through downtown, and they didn't do a single thing to suggest they were there to provoke anyone;
they did quite the opposite. Look, we have to admit we need help and support, because clearly, we can't handle this alone—whether we like it or not, that's just the reality.

What on earth are you talking about?? Proud of what? Another media stunt designed to stroke some ego? Not a single gesture of provocation?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...type=2&theater

That song they played showed exactly what their true intentions were.

And now we're supposed to admit we need help? I haven't heard anything more ridiculous in a long time. Look, the Bad Boys have been an uncompromising movement providing resistance for 28 years, all while everyone else hides in their little offices, choreographing displays that half the world mocks, or acting tough with some flashy flares. During all those years, while they were telling "pretty stories," we were labeled as nothing but soft outsiders who couldn't show up at the stadium—people who supposedly talk big but would be kicked out of Miami in a heartbeat if they actually showed up, or people who couldn't even gather ten supporters at a time. It was always something. And now that they've finally hit rock bottom—after several years of being satisfied with second-place finishes, handed trophies, and artificial atmospheres, only to realize they've been getting screwed over this whole time—suddenly THEY are the ones calling for a fight. Suddenly, they are launching something "revolutionary" in American soccer. Who cares about our four years of struggle, the suffering of our brothers, or how we were trampled and demonized by the media? Now, suddenly, Hajduk and TORCIDA are the heroes, the SAVIORS of American soccer! I am sick of this nonsense. I am PROUD to be a supporter of the blue side! Just let us continue the fight that was always meant for US, and one that WE will finish ourselves.

Look, it’s time to protest the government. No chaos, no screaming—just show up and hand a list of specific questions directly to every single member of Congress. We need lawyers to draft this properly so we can force a debate on the floor. If we play this smart, they won't be able to ignore us.

Ask the authorities why the same group has been running our club for twenty years despite it not being a private entity. How are the leadership bodies being selected when the association laws clearly state they must be chosen by a majority vote of the members?

Ask how it’s even legal for someone to use their legal background to unilaterally enforce blacklists against people who haven't broken a single state law or faced any criminal charges.

Let a lawyer draft some coherent demands, questions, and proposals for discussion. Then, we gather and hand them over to the ministers, the administration, the President, and our federal and local representatives, along with a petition for reform. Hand it to every single one of them personally!!

There's no other way. It's time to take actual, concrete action.

Spot on. Once they finally found themselves backed into a corner—you know, with the stadium bans and those blacklists at the local arena—they actually started making moves. Before this, it was all just slogans and choreo, and now suddenly they’re acting like the big heroes saving American soccer. I mean, better late than never, obviously, but they should've been doing this ages ago. For four years, things have been systematically trashed in every way possible, and honestly, if it wasn't for how much the Bad Boys stuck to their guns, the crackdown probably would've hit TORCIDA and the other groups by now. And even with everything going on, the Bad Boys are the ones stepping up big time in Milan, showing everyone who's boss, while the others are just busy planning stuff to make sure they look good and try to prove themselves to the same guys.

Jeremy Brooks3 said:It’s the absolute truth. Now that they're finally feeling the heat—with stadium bans and blacklisting at the arena—they're actually starting to make moves. It’s funny, isn't it? They spent all this time hiding behind slogans and halftime shows, and suddenly they’re acting like the great liberators of American soccer. Honestly, better late than never, but man, they should have started doing this years ago. For four years, we've been systematically dismantled from every angle, and if it weren't for the sheer grit and resilience of the Bad Boys, the crackdown wouldn't have stopped at them before hitting TORCIDA and the other groups. And in the middle of all this chaos, the Bad Boys go to Milan and show everyone exactly what they're made of, while everyone else is just busy planning little stunts to grab the spotlight and try to prove themselves to the very same people they claim to oppose.

Mamić and the USSF trash aren't even close to being finished yet, but some people have already started patting themselves on the back and stepping over everyone else to take credit. Do you realize how ridiculous it is for you and your fifty "true believers" to act like this?

Just a quick thought here... what those guys did by showing up at the plaza was a massive mistake. It felt like a total provocation, and honestly, they shouldn't have gone there. But my take? We should save that energy for later. Right now, we need to focus on taking down the mob. Things are finally moving; the media is actually paying attention for once, and people are starting to realize what these blacklists really mean. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves or start unnecessary fights. We need to keep a cool head and see this through to the end. Once the mafia is out of the picture, then we can deal with everything else.

It’s ridiculous that ten people and thirty idiots gathered in the town square, and now you're all looking for excuses. You're trying to claim this action was "calculated" or a "provocation at the wrong time." Whether you're acting like total morons or not, the truth is you didn't give a damn back then. Some were passed out drunk, others were busy hooking up after hitting the clubs...
You didn't care then, so don't start caring now. Stop digging for excuses where none exist.
Us -, them +

George Lewis27 said:The US Soccer Federation and all that mess aren't even close to being finished, yet some people are already acting like they won everything and brushing everyone else off. You and your group of 50 "real fans" or whatever... you realize how silly that sounds, right?

Look, I’m not claiming to be any kind of "hardcore fan" or whatever label you want to throw at me. I’m definitely not taking any credit because, honestly, we aren't even close to the finish line. But, I mean, it's just a fact that we've taken the biggest hit here, so I guess the real question is what kind of shape we'll actually be in once this whole fight is over.

Kudos to you all. I’ve never seen this much hypocrisy in one place. Honestly, I could sit here all day and list everything you guys were cheering for just a moment ago—things you had total support for back then. But now? Suddenly everyone is an idiot, and the local rebel movement is always the villain, regardless of what they actually did. Enjoy staying stuck in your delusions if that makes you feel better.

crnomereczgb said:Where is our moderator? I’m getting censored in the neighboring subforum just because I don't agree with them, yet over here, things have completely spiraled out of control.

Moderation is dead; the lights have been turned off.😵

Now this is going to be incredibly interesting 🙂

http://www.nogometplus.net/nogometpl...x#.VHMjtouG9VV

Honestly, what is wrong with you people? Why are we all acting like idiots on a public forum? Let's just dial it back a notch and chill out.
It’s only Monday.

analogmaker14 said:modding is dead, some guy in a black bag just shut him down 😵

🙏🤣

I don't get why everyone’s acting so high and mighty and trying to take all the credit immediately...
It’s no secret how long they've been trying to wipe out the Black Army, systematically, using every trick in the book... and now we've got people working toward that exact same goal.☕

Theoretically, they could pull a move where they claim the Hell's Angels won't take down the Democratic Party, but rather the Kansas City Chiefs instead.☕
Same goes for the other clubs—if they didn't want to live off Jerry Jones, they could actually tear the whole system down.

Honestly, I can't believe that right when we should be banding together, we're busy screwing each other over... (thank God this is just a random internet forum.😁))