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A remake of Scarface? WTF?

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stormyridge2 stormyridge2 Member
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#41 ·
wiredraven82 said:Look, I was stuck in middle school during the 90s and then grinding through high school and college in the 2000s, so yeah, I’m definitely throwing shade at the 2000s too. 😁

I mean, things were alright for me personally, but again... globally speaking... man... I just can't even go there right now. 🙂

Every decade has its gems, so you're totally exaggerating.
Casey Cox2 Casey Cox2 Active Member
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#42 ·
briskhound2 said:That’s just how it goes—honestly. Old school. Wait, what? I don't even know what you're getting at here. Give me something to work with—I can't exactly write a masterpiece out of thin air. 😁 Technically, it's not even a remake—it’s more like a prequel. But let's be real, the plot beats are basically identical, just with a happy ending instead of the usual mess.

What were you actually watching?😲
goldenscout14 goldenscout14 Active Member
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#43 ·
We’re looking at a pretty universal narrative here—the classic tale of a criminal’s meteoric rise and inevitable downfall. Even if they don't end up directly lifting the stylistic beats or the core plot from de palmin's work, or even the much older Scarface, there seems to be enough substance there to allow for some genuine originality. On the other hand, isn't it perfectly obvious why they chose to market it specifically as Scarface, rather than treating it as its own standalone biopic about a gangster's life?
Casey Cox2 Casey Cox2 Active Member
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Jamie Turner80 Jamie Turner80 Member
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#45 ·
Casey Cox2 said:What on earth were you actually watching?😲

It was being broadcast on major networks; it certainly wasn't some obscure indie flick.
Jerry Martinez50 Jerry Martinez50 Active Member
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#46 ·
Man, I am absolutely shaking.
Casey Cox2 Casey Cox2 Active Member
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#47 ·
Jamie Turner80 said:It was all over the TV networks—definitely not some obscure indie flick.

I know, but I just never quite worked up the nerve to sit through it. Honestly? Most of the cast feels way too greasy to me—except for the lead, obviously.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#48 ·
The more bad movies you sit through, the more you actually start to appreciate the good ones.
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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#49 ·
Casey Cox2 said:what exactly were you watching?😲

Of course I watched 😁 That's how I know what it's actually like.
analogpanther55 analogpanther55 Member
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#50 ·
A remake is just a remake... I won't be the first or the last person to skip this one and pretend it doesn't even exist...☕
nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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#51 ·
It wouldn't really work if we were talking about some Cuban immigrant named Tony Montana... I mean, then the whole thing would just be trash.
But honestly, it’s a universal story at its core.
Back in the 1932 version directed by Howard Hawks, the character was actually Italian—his name was Antonio "Tony" Camonte.

A modern-day Scarface could easily be about a Russian or a Mexican...
Jamie Turner80 Jamie Turner80 Member
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#52 ·
Mexos is on the move, currently based out of L.A.

though a Russian operative paired with New York strikes me as a far more compelling combination.
cosmiclynx57 cosmiclynx57 Regular
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#53 ·
analogpanther55 said:Ugh, a remake? Seriously? Just another one of those "reimagined" projects that I’m totally skipping. Honestly, I’m just gonna act like it doesn't even exist and move on with my life. Is it really that hard to just come up with something fresh for once? Not the first time I've seen this happen, and definitely not the last!☕

Ha! Yeah, right. Like you actually skipped The Thing from '82? Seriously, how do you even manage to miss a masterpiece like that? remake Man, you’re telling me one of your absolute favorite movies is actually a remake? And here you are acting all high and mighty about how you don't touch remakes with a ten-foot pole... honestly, you're just lying to yourself at this point!
Joseph Edwards4 Joseph Edwards4 Member
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#54 ·
If they’re going to remake Scarface, the lead has to be Mexican. If the cast and crew actually pull their weight, you could end up with a killer movie. A Russian or a Mexican just wouldn't hit the same way as a Mexican character—someone who crosses into the USA illegally, works the plantations, and then climbs the ladder through the drug trade. That’s how you make it work.
cosmiclynx57 cosmiclynx57 Regular
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#55 ·
I honestly feel like anyone who claims movies were peak up until the year 2000 and everything after that is just absolute garbage would probably have the exact same attitude if we were living in, say, 1974 instead of 2014. They’d just be sitting there complaining that movies were great until the '70s and then suddenly everything became total trash and a complete joke, right?

Joseph Edwards4 said:If they’re actually going to do a new Scarface, the lead has to be Mexican. If you get a killer cast together, you could seriously make an amazing movie. A Russian or a Mexican just wouldn't hit nearly as hard as a Mexican character—you know, someone who sneaks into the USA illegally, works the plantations, and then climbs the ladder through the drug trade and all that... that could actually work.

I’m totally with you, a Mexican lead would be a massive hit. But man, who on earth would play him?

The subject matter is definitely deep enough to pull off a high-quality flick.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#56 ·
Only if he’s got someone like Tom Cruise playing the lead role.

Then maybe we're talking. ☕
Kevin Stewart84 Kevin Stewart84 Newcomer
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#57 ·
cosmiclynx57 said:I agree, a Mexican actor would be the perfect choice. But who could actually pull off that role?


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It makes me wonder... He’s a Spaniard, sure, but he’s already played Mexican characters in other films...

+ Paul Munuti and Al Pacino were both in their early 40s when they filmed their versions of Scarface, and Javier is right at that same age. 🙂
analogpanther55 analogpanther55 Member
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#58 ·
cosmiclynx57 said:Ha. Yeah, right. Like you somehow skipped remake The Thing ('82), which is one of your absolute favorites. You keep saying you don't watch remakes, but honestly? You're just lying to yourself.

Look, if a 30-year-old Kurt Russell is starring in it, then maybe I'll give this one a shot.☕
cosmiclynx57 cosmiclynx57 Regular
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#59 ·
Kevin Stewart84 said:It just occurs to me... I mean, sure, he's The Spaniard, but he's already played plenty of Mexican characters in his other movies...

+ Well, if you look at the history, Paul Munuti and Al Pacino were both in their mid-forties when they tackled those iconic Scarface roles, and Javier is actually right in that sweet spot age-wise right now 🙂

Man, I hear you, that's a really solid point you made there. Honestly, with acting talent like his, he could carry basically any movie on his back.

analogpanther55 said:Look, if he’s playing some thirty-year-old version of Kurt Russell, then yeah, I might actually give this one a watch. ☕

You really need to work on your poker face, seriously, because you're not fooling anyone! We all know The Thing from '82 is a total masterpiece and the only reason you even sat through it was because Kurt Russell was in it, so don't try to sell me that line!
Kevin Ward3 Kevin Ward3 Member
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#60 ·
cosmiclynx57 said:I'm with you, casting a Mexican lead would be a total win. Just wondering who could actually pull off that role?

Personally, I'm thinking Oscar Isaac or Dominic Cooper.

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